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Metalstorm
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's all about perspective.

Unless you're from the south. Then it's all relative! (just kidding, trying to lighten the mood) joker
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Davegess
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I actually feel sorry for Britney, she obviously has substance abuse troubles, they may be self induced but once some of that stuff gets a hold of you it is hard to turn it loose.

I often wonder how any of us would do if we had endless praise, attention, money, ego strokers and no boundaries at the age some of these pop stars make it big. I am pretty sure I would have spun pretty far out of control without limits from parents, school etc.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd probably be in rehab for the umpteenth time.

And that's saying a lot since I've never had a drug problem in my whole life. (except coffee & cigarettes)

Yep, the spotlight, the media, the expectations.. They take their toll and the price can be downright evil.
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Davegess
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah as a parent I hope my kid is happy. If others think she is successful that is fine to I just want her happy if that is selling candles or making millions.
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Captpete
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,

Perhaps you are operating on an invalid assumption.

Maybe their vows aren't so solemn?

Your post reminded me a little of the religion scenario: "Ours is the only one that's right."

Throughout history, that mindset seemed to manifest itself in a lot of killing.

Maybe we should invade France and force them into a little solemnity?

(Don't mention that to GW)
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Davegess
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

(Don't mention that to GW)

Man Capt you gotta be careful you iwll give the guy ideas, He has to have somepalce to invade after Iran!.
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CJXB
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm kind of of the same mind as Grumpy.

yep, me too !!

The let children drink alcohol. They show nudity on TV when children are watching. Both of these activities would be considered very wrong here.

Must be the same in Germany, my mom's German and I still remember being very young and visiting our relatives and they let us drink beer if we wanted.

So funny me and my sisters/brothers sitting on a couch watching TV not understanding a word of german, but we'd watch knowing sooner or later we were going to see nekid people !! I still remember my younger sister her eyes all big and round like saucers !!

If that behavior is more common in some nations, then that is a reflection upon the state of moral decline of those nations, yes including America.

I may be wrong, but seems it's getting better, looking back at history especially other nations weren't there a LOT of men having affairs openly, and not always with women either ??
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Metalstorm
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Except for a bit of wine with dinner every now & then I wasn't allowed much alcohol until I was 9.

In my teen years it was ok to come home drunk. Cigarettes were ok too.
It was however was made perfectly crystal clear that if I was ever caught with pot or any other narcotics that I would be promptly scraped off the skin of the earth.

Worse yet, my bike (Honda 450) would be confiscated, chained inside the garage.

That was enough to keep me away from drugs.
The down side was that by the time I reached legal drinking age, it wasn't a big deal and I didn't party like a 21 year old is expected to.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How is judicious consumption of table wine or exposure to the human body (not XXX pornography) akin to failing to keep one's vow? It ain't. Sorry guys, you aren't going to convince me on this one. Wrong is wrong. I ain't out to rub anyone's nose in it or to try to enforce morality on anyone. I just recognize what is right and what is wrong. Promising someone that I will be faithful to her then failing to keep that promise is pretty darn dishonorable. I know full well that some don't share that view. I think they are kidding themselves.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would never have a mistress myself (that's just me) but I don't see how it would be breaking a vow if all involved were ok with it.

If the wife has no idea then hell yeah that's cheating. If she knows & is cool with it how is the vow broken? T'would seem that they have made their own vows yes?

That's the difference. You probably see it as cheating no matter what.

But what do I know. I'm just a paver who's never even been out of the U S of A.
Do what you think is right. Live the life that you think is right.

Life's too short to sweat the small stuff.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know Brittney is an idiot but I'm starting to feel like a bigger idiot because I keep coming back here.

I need the rain to go away so I can go back to work : )
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Jon
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake wrote - "How is judicious consumption of table wine or exposure to the human body (not XXX pornography) akin to failing to keep one's vow? It ain't. Sorry guys, you aren't going to convince me on this one. Wrong is wrong. I ain't out to rub anyone's nose in it or to try to enforce morality on anyone. I just recognize what is right and what is wrong. Promising someone that I will be faithful to her then failing to keep that promise is pretty darn dishonorable. I know full well that some don't share that view. I think they are kidding themselves."

Amen to that. You make the vow, keep it. It isn't supposed to be optional. I'm living it for going on 16 years.
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"wrong is wrong"

Methodists were against dancing and public displays of affection.

Wrong or right? Which time?

Baptists were burned at the stake as heretics in England.

Good times for all.
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think she was trying to say something...




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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Man you'd think she was a freak show.

She shaved her head, and as bald chicks go, it appears to suit her.

I'm looking forward to seeing how she looks dolled up.

Rocket
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This explains why Catholics don't have pre-marital sex. . . I think I get it now.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Mormon religion is pretty big in the US I believe, & don't they advocate polygamy?

France, by the way, has a MUCH stronger constitution than the US when it comes to free speech & freedom of expression, you would not believe the stuff that's broadcast here. Which goes some way to explaining things, tolerance is enshrined in the constitution.
That's not better or worse just different.

What this has to do with Britney's head I don't know, but I hope you're illuminated some.

I think the head will look HUGELY better after a week or two of regular shaving & a bit of suntan on it, it's the dead-fish white that doesn't look good.
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Jimidan
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fact Check: caffeine, nicotine and alcohol are legitimate drugs...and pot is not a narcotic...just keeping it real.

Most Americans are in some stage of addiction to caffeine, with most of these dosing several times daily, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for their entire lifetimes.

Approximately 430,000 people die each year in the USA alone from smoking nicotine based products, and another 60,000 die each year in this country from passive smoking. Tobacco products kill 2/3 of those who use it exactly as it was intended.

The problems associated with alcohol abuse are the stuff of legend...cirrhosis, heat disease, etc....no need to go into that here.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled program...Entertainment Tonight.

jimidan
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it (cause I don't have the desire to read all three pages) but she could have put a positive spin on this if she had donated her hair.
I wonder if the barber saved it... imagine what full length locks of Brittney Spear's hair would fetch on eBay.
Oh wait, I just checked there are people trying to sell it. http://buybritneyshair.com
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is anyone buying?
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just think what her "other hair" could gone for
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Rainman
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most Americans are in some stage of addiction to caffeine, with most of these dosing several times daily, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for their entire lifetimes.

I used to drink an average of 20 cups of coffee a day for about 30 years. No, I'm not making that up. Doctor ordered me to wean off it to 0. Made it to 0 for about 2 years. Am now up to five cups of decaf a day, equal to about 1.5 cups of caff coffee.

Everybody's got a drug. You should see what happens when I can't ride.}
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As liberal as the French are, they were one of the last Western nations to grant women the right to vote - in 1944 but there was a war on and they snuck it in while the men were away.



(Message edited by slaughter on February 23, 2007)
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

speaking addictions I'm addiction free now, well at least free of substance addictions.
My only indulgence was tobacco. But I've given it up for over a month now. I gradually "weened" my self off em starting back around the holidays.
I really have next to no desire to smoke now.
I rarely ever drink and I've never felt the least bit tempted to try any other drugs.
I didn't even take loritabs when they were prescribed to me.
Caffeine is not an addiction for me either since I've cut down on sodas. Really the most caffeine I would take in during the typical day would be a couple of glasses of tea with diner.

That being said I do have an idea of what addiction can be like. I realized that even though I didn't smoke much, usually about half a pack a day, I was addicted because I'd find myself smoking even when I didn't want to.
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Ryker77
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Food is also a "drug" it alters a persons mood.

Food is also abused by most Americans. To the tune that over 1/2 of us are Obese to that it affects our health. Then that requires the fat ass to go to the doctor to get a salad bowl of pills for all the negative health problems from abusing food.

over 500,000 people die from cardiovascular and other medical problems mostly do to abusing there body with too much bad foods
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well according to the Body Mass Index used for such studies I'm considered "over weight" @ 5' 10" and 180lbs.
Before I started really working out I was within the "normal" BMI range but I felt fat. I started working out, slimmed down, and put on a bit of muscle and I became "over-weight"
They also use the same range for men and women which I find odd considering that men typically have more muscle mass making them heavier than women of the same height.
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Ryker77
Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those height weight charts are very outdated. The best method for health purpose is % of body fat.

I'm 5'9" and 215 - last bodybuilding competion I weighed in at 193 less than 5% BF-- yet the BMI would say I was overweight.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Methodists were against dancing and public displays of affection.

Wrong or right? Which time?

Baptists were burned at the stake as heretics in England."


Maybe I missed something. You are after all my all time favorite atheist. ;) What does that have to do with personal integrity and keeping a promise? : ? Atheists with honor understand the difference, yes? Of course you do. : )
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Awwwwgeeez Blake, Now I gotta go back in my fading memory and try to remember just WHAT I was responding to.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ohhh yeah. Wrong is Wrong.

Uhhh.

Wrong for whom?

Wrong is relative in some cases. Unfortunately.

Britney is STILL an idiot.
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