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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What would one need to have to have that happen? I have found a rather interesting motorcycle shop for sale in the middle of ideal riding country and ziltch Buell dealerships - just HD. So if I where to buy this shop, what would I need to go the next step and become a Buell dealership?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Socalbueller
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Probably become a HD dealership is my guess. You could make it the Bizzaro dealership though, have rows and rows of Buells in the main showroom and stuff a few softtails in the back.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and you better have TONS of cash!!
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, however, there are now stand alone dealerships starting up, so who would one contact?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Jimidan
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are Buell only stand-alone stores in the world, but dang few of them. I know a guy with a KTM dealership and he wanted to add the Buell line to his store but HD told him NFW. There is a HD/Buell dealership in that city, but they don't sell all that many Buells. He said that the MoCo wouldn't even consider it. Now that seems a little rigid for a company that has many of its factory stores that will not even carry Buells. But that was the way it was.

I don't think a Buell only (with no other brands of sportbikes) would make it in very many places, even in a blue state...that is if you like to eat. However, adding Buells to a line of other special bikes like Aprilia, Ducati, KTM, MotoGuzzi, etc., could probably make a go in a blue state. Fergetaboutit in the South...Bubba ain't ready for no Buell.

(Message edited by jimidan on February 19, 2007)
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think a stand alone would have to be owned by a HD store
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the stand alone shops you see are afiliated with a local HD dealership.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

^^ Yup - just satellites of HD dealerships most likely.

BTW - last time I checked HD wanted you to have a very specific minimum amount of space for parts, accesories, service, clothing and sales floor section, as well as a minimum of $1,000,000.

And the kicker is, IF you get approved to open a dealership, THEY tell you where it's going to be, not you.
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But you could buy all the used Buells and sell them and also modify a bunch of them. Just make them look better then most of the used ones out there and you will have your stand alone used Buell dealership.

Who doesn't want a sweet bike even if it is used with low miles.
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Nb_mitch
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The stand alone store in Orlando (Seminole Buell) is actually the old location of a HD shop. When the HD shop built a new bigger store, the owners decided to put a Buell only store in the old spot. Not sure there is a true Buell Only dealer not owned by a HD owner.
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fergetaboutit in the South...Bubba ain't ready for no Buell.

Err.... 3% & 3C "Bubba done got one"...
there is a buell only shop as a sponsor, but they are owned by a HD shop.

My 0.02$ They "HDMC LEGAL" do it for a living, if they're wrong the market will prove it.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a whole tab on the HD site, along with a FAQ about opening a dealership under the MOCO banner. I would expect that the same would apply to Buell since it is a subsider. of HD... But a store full of custom Tubers, XBs and Blasts would get me up for a road trip for sure. No matter what colored state you put it in.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fergetaboutit in the South...Bubba ain't ready for no Buell.
Question, where is the biggest Buell event in the nation held? Second biggest?
Where is the most active Buell club located? Second biggest?
Where are the most Buells sold? Second most?
Where is the Buell dealership with the most satisfied customers? Second?
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 06:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you have to own a HD dealership to have Buell. Period.
There are and have been Buell only buildings, but they are owned by HD dealers. Period.

Glitch asks,
"Where are the most Buells sold? Second most?
Where is the Buell dealership with the most satisfied customers? Second?"

Appleton WI does pretty well in those categories
But he is right, there are Buell dealers in the south doing well. Stone Mountain is one of them and the one I would send people in the south to.
Buells will sell anywhere(and at a profit,not give them away prices) if sold correctly. But what do I know? I'm just a bow salesman.
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Darkducati
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still think far more Buells could be sold if they were in stand alone dealers. Mainly because the two markets are totally different and most sportbike enthusiasts wouldn't be caught dead in a Harley dealership.
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

add me to the bubba list that has a Buell

and as David Allen Coe would say "if I ain't country, then i'll kiss your a$$"

oh and by the way...i have convinced two people i work with to go Buell...maybe they were thinkin if Bubba likes it, it must be O.K.
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Rich
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I go for price, and buy my own.
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Jimidan
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jimidan sez:

"Fergetaboutit in the South...Bubba ain't ready for no Buell."

Glitch sez:

Fergetaboutit in the South...Bubba ain't ready for no Buell.
Question, where is the biggest Buell event in the nation held? Second biggest?
Where is the most active Buell club located? Second biggest?
Where are the most Buells sold? Second most?
Where is the Buell dealership with the most satisfied customers? Second?"


Good point, Glitch...very astute observation. If you live in Atlanta, surely you realize that it is like a cultural oasis in vast desert. Atlanta is part of the Ol' South in geographic location only, as the inhabitants are much more likely to be hip urban dwellers (similar to those living in the Eastern seaboard) than your typical southern good ol' boy. They share few ideological attributes with the inhabitants of the rest of Georgia, and the South. The inhabitants are in a higher socio-economic strata than most of the Deep South...having a higher educational level, making much better salaries, having a much higher standard of living, being much more tolerant while living in a diverse community, and voting much bluer (the "L" word!).

Some folks (like the inhabitants of the city) may view this as a good thing, and others may see this as a less desirable thing (I am not making that judgment, but just calling attention to the phenomena). On a more humorous note, my friend who lives in Atlanta is fond of poking a little fun of his home state by saying, "The worst thing about Atlanta is that it is surrounded by Georgia!" I have never lived in Atlanta, but I have been there many times, and no doubt about it, it is a cool city.

The sale of Buells (we are looking at overall trends here, not individual anomalies) is highest in urban areas, the Eastern seaboard and Northeast, along the border states of Canada, and then the Left Coast. So it only stands to reason that they would be selling well in Hotlanta, which is similar demographically, to these other geographic locations.

I would say that is a good thing, and the inhabitants should be proud of their city for that.

jimidan}
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I standalone store would have to be owned by a permanantly fasting individual who employees donated their time outa the goodness of their hearts to a charitable organization --

single brand stores don't last too long, even when carrying one of the big 4 Japanese brands -- also, most motorycle stores north of the Mason Dixon line also carry other equipment -- ATVs, snow-sleds, jet skis, lawn mowers -- fact of the bidness world
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Jlnance
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you live in Atlanta, surely you realize that it is like a cultural oasis in vast desert.

If you live in Stone Mtn, surely you realize that it is no Atlanta. : )
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's not one member of the 3%ers that live in Atlanta. I work in Atlanta, that much is true. I'm an hour away, as is most everyone else.
I do however did enjoy what you wrote wrt Atlanta, and most of it is true, it's just we don't live there.

If you live in Stone Mtn, surely you realize that it is no Atlanta.
That is an accurate statement!
The same goes for Lawrenceville (myself & MrsG), Grayson (New12r, Braveangel, Silverbullet, Smokescreen, & Missbehavin) Norcross (Blacksunshine), Marietta (Kdan, Bambi), Woodstock (M1a65)...The list goes on until you hit a total of around 25 or so active members, more if you count the ones that aren't quite so active. I think my point is made though. None of us are from the city, some from the suburbs, some rural, and some we have adopted from Alabama...

Edited to say: Please don't fret if I didn't list you. Just chime in with your Southern Self!

(Message edited by glitch on February 20, 2007)
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Jlnance
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Glitch, you ever sit out on the grass and watch the laser show? You know the one I'm talking about. : )
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Ratyson
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and some we have adopted from Alabama...
I did grow up in Stone Mountain, so I consider myself just in a temprorary state of deployment from 'home'.
Stone mountain park was basically my back yard.}
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey! I have an idea! Check it out!

In the midst of talking about the prospects of stand-alone Buell dealerships, let's try to make ourselves feel all superior while being divisive--we can divide up all of America into two groups and then make ignorant bigoted insulting generalizations about the one we don't like! What fun we'll have!

What do you think?

Tearing America apart and invoking political partisanship every chance on a motorcycle discussion board is just so much fun!

Not. : |
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"The sale of Buells (we are looking at overall trends here, not individual anomalies) is highest in urban areas..."

Imagine that! They sell more motorcycle in areas where there are more people! Wow! Have you informed the Wall Street Journal of this amazing market economics revelation?
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for that Blake.
Sorry.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EZ, if it's a stand alone you want, you first need to have an H-D dealership. I checked into this once thinking it's what I would like to do. I wasn't looking into the stand-alone though, as I thought that wasn't possible. If you go to the H-D website, it will tell you all the things you need to be considered. One of them being around a million dollars to be able to put in the dealership. You also have to have a location in mind with all the research done as to why you think it would be successful there. It also has to be (I can't remember how far) a certain distance from any other dealership. After you get all the preliminary research done, and can prove to H-D you have a million dollars to put into it, they research your proposal, and pretty much do all your research again to make sure their research matches yours. Then they have a meeting and decide if you're up to their standards as to what they think is a proper dealership owner.
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Rainman
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...let's try to make ourselves feel all superior while being divisive--we can divide up all of America into two groups and then make ignorant bigoted insulting generalizations about the one we don't like! What fun we'll have!
We have that already. It's called the two-party system.
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i can picture it now "EZBLAST's BUELL" over 250 Blasts of every configuration imaginable . cafe racers , sport tourers , dirt Blasts , Blasts with side cars and a few XB's over in the corner
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Rex
Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EZ...drop jon a note from ASBN...rex
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