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Blake
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 02:36 pm: | 
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"they are just reporting the news."
Hardly. |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 03:42 pm: |
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Ducxl,
Sounds to me like you want to deny the impoverished people of the world the chance to improve their conditions. We as Americans should not be so selfish, should we? Frankly, I think the more prosperity we have in the world, the better, for everyone.
I don't see the prosperity of others as a threat to our own. Not sure why some people do.
All the rhetoric in the world won't change the fact that Americans are more prosperous today than ever before. |
Ryker77
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 03:50 pm: |
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Sounds to me like you want to deny the impoverished people of the world the chance to improve their conditions.
100% correct. As a government for the people and by the people. I say the "people" should protect ourselves FIRST and foremost.
We as Americans should not be so selfish, should we?
tax are coming up so feel free to pay extra. Do them so that you pay as much as possible, you'll sleep better at night knowing your saving the world
The strong (countries) survive and the weak don't.
Blake, your implying that if Buell has a great year and has huge profits they should help fund another bike company. ??? |
Ducxl
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 04:20 pm: |
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Blake,
With the current Chinese Communist government,i think prevents the impoverished from making a better life.I read in the paper today where there's like 36 million migrant workers who've left the suburbs to find work in the cities.Think of the poor children being brought up by grandparents and the like.Would YOU advocate that?
Can there be equity and a mutually beneficial relationship between Capitalist and Communist societies?
Or are we wishing Communists downfall? |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 04:39 pm: |
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Ryker,
Your analogy is way off. There is a significant difference in permitting free and open competition versus seeking to stifle it.
Duc,
I'm with you in opposing communism. I'm not sure that killing their economy is the best strategy. It worked on the USSR, but I'm hopeful that good old capitalism and dependence upon America's amazing economy will slowly and surely turn the tide towards liberty in China. I may be naive in that, but I'm an optimist. |
Rainman
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 04:43 pm: |
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An economics professor once explained to me the theory of global economies as a redistribution of wealth. At first, there are some countries with lots of money and some without. Then, as jobs move and manufacturing shifts, those with less gain more and those with more get less until, at some point, there is equilibrium. In other words, our standard of living drops and their's rise until we meet in the middle. |
Buellshyter
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 04:59 pm: |
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It's painfully apparent that although some of you claim to have traveled the world you did so with your eyes closed. Fact of the matter is, I don't want to live in some crap-hole of a country to make a living. I want to live in the U.S. Despite our problems we are still the best country on the planet with freedoms others only dream about. Some of us still care about the ability to be able to sit here and speak our mind without the fear of government agents arresting us. I like the idea of my waste water being separate from my drinking water. I like the idea of being able to own a firearm. I like freedom of religion, press and speech. Why in the hell would I want to move to India or China to make a buck? Thansesxb9rs, you're mindset is similar to that of a pacifist - content to let others do the fighting while they sit comfy at home lost in their esoteric ideals blissfully unaware that if it were not for those willing to take up the fight they would be the first to die. When the U.S. falls just which country do you think is going to pick the mantle and carry it forward? France, Russia, China? Sorry but I don't like any of those choices. You may be content to globe trot the world exploiting everything in your path in the name of progress but I don't share in your Blade Runner future.
Sounds to me like you want to deny the impoverished people of the world the chance to improve their conditions.
There aren't enough resources for 6.5 billion people to all live like we do in the West.
Increasing crime brings kidnapping insurers to Mexico
Web Posted: 11/10/2006 01:25 AM CST
Deborah Knapp
KENS 5 Eyewitness News
All of us who've spent most of our lives close to the border have known Mexico to be a vibrant, exotic and fun place to visit or do business. However, increasingly travel to Mexico means putting your life in danger.
Violence is escalating, with sharp increases in murders and kidnappings of Mexican and American citizens alike.
Mexico: A romantic, festive country is today becoming known as one of the most dangerous places in the world.
"One of them took me from behind, and grabbed me with a knife, and they pulled me in," Jerry Ortega said.
Ortega, an American businessman, stopped for gas outside of Monterrey. He was heading for San Antonio when he was kidnapped.
"There was a point when I was just crying, begging for my life," he said.
Ortega was on of an estimated 5,000 people kidnapped in Mexico this past year.
This is what happens when you have extreme poverty living side-by-side with extreme wealth.
Whoa! That's a bit of a leap. From world superpower and economic powerhouse to the slums of Mexico? Dude.
I think it's a bit naive and hubris to believe the U.S. could never implode. All of us old enough to read this post lived through the collapse of the former Soviet Union. Don't take my word for it - there are people well respected who believe that we are indeed heading in that direction. |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 07:20 pm: |
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Bigotry and ignorance are sucky. |
Paw
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 07:35 pm: |
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Is the bottom line all that matters??
HERSHEY, Pa. Feb 15, 2007 (AP)— Hershey Co. is cutting 1,500 jobs over three years as part of a plan to scale back production lines and move some manufacturing to Mexico, the candy maker announced Thursday.
The Hershey plant is Union, enough said!!!
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Slaughter
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 07:43 pm: |
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How many of us is willing to pay $5500 for a desktop computer? That's what it cost in REAL dollars back when the IBM PC came out. In today's dollars, that would be close to $15,000 Back then a 9-pin Epson HI-80 printer cost more than $350. Would you pay more than $1000 for a cheapo printer today?
How many of us is willing to pay $3500 for a 19-inch television?
How many of us is willing to pay $75 for a pair of Levis? $200 for tennis shoes?
How many of us is willing to pay the costs of what it will take to keep jobs here?
You're going to have to pay one way or another. There's no way to compete with directly or indirectly subsidized labor or labor without an overhead burden.
Don't have any answers, just asking. |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 09:02 pm: |
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You almost always ask really irritating questions, at least for those of a certain outlook.
Me? I think your questions rock! ![: ]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 09:04 pm: |
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I have to confess something. Today I removed our 27" TV and in it's place installed a new 46" LCD HDTV model. Both are Sony. What surprised me was that the new LCD model was manufactured in Mexico. Go Mexico! Way better than China in my view.  |
Jimidan
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:38 pm: |
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Blake sez:
"they are just reporting the news."
Hardly.
You are right...I just thought about FOX!
I stand corrected.
jimi} |
Thansesxb9rs
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:39 pm: |
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Blake don't feel bad I have a 60in, do I need it hell no but I wanted it, plus I have a projector I haven't installed yet that has 103in of screen capability.
Well I guess I am just open to other cultures and exploring the world. Yes I do see opportunity in a global economy, I can still live in the US travel for a month come home for a month. I guess I see it as getting off the couch and making things happen for myself. Your right I won't sit back and see what comes my way I'll go looking for it.
For me to keep up my life style I have to explore every opportunity because I just can't see sitting back and doing the same old same old and wondering what if.
(Message edited by thansesxb9rs on February 19, 2007) |
Jimidan
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:48 pm: |
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All TV's that are not HDTV will be obsolete in less than 2 years, according to every electronics store staff I have talked to lately. So I guess you might as well replace it now if it has some age on it. The plasmas and LCD TVs are stunning if you have HD signals coming in. I have Dish Network satellite and there really aren't enough channels to make it worth buying the TV and paying extra for the HD channels...just yet. But it is coming.
jimi |
Jimidan
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 10:55 pm: |
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There are problems associated with impoverished nations coming on-line, like energy usage and the production of greenhouse gases. Plus, the increased demand for fossil fuels only does one, er, two things...it drives up the price and uses them up faster.
China has 4 times more people than we do in the USA...talk about energy consumption when they all get refrigerators, central air and cars.
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Thansesxb9rs
| | Posted on Monday, February 19, 2007 - 11:16 pm: |
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Just ask Court about this, but we have out dated power, phone, even our newer data lines are outdated and it is way too expensive to replace with the newer better items out there today.
But China is thinking about putting in the most efficent quickest working data lines in the world through out their country. The 3rd world is going to benefit from the world's tech developments before we can, that is just they way it is going to happen.
You will see many of these countries enjoying the benefits we do shortly. Funny thing is some friends of mine that have a winter house in Costa Rica have better internet service then they have here in Kansas City. The house they had in Mexico even had better internet service.
Just another thing to think about. |
Bomber
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 12:03 pm: |
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wow --
Communism is tricky, as it is both a form of government, and an economic model -- it's never worked in either sense of the word for long --
the Russian collapse was painful for most there, from what I've gathered, and is causing a march back toward what I would call an overly strong centralized governement --
China, while being run by a Communist Government, is clearly moving toward a capitalist economy (albeit heavily regulated) -- I'm thinkin the Chinese have a better chance of elevating the quality of live for their citezens that the Russions, at this point
it's certainly sad that folks in Hersey are loosing their jobs -- that said, I'm simply unwilling to pay more for a commodity if I can get it for less elsewhere, all else being equal
our economy in the US is continuing to change, and I'm pretty sure nothing will alter that -- anyone, union or not, that has a 401K, buys stock, has a retirement fund, owns a portion of the responsibility for this
the trick is to see to it that you and your skills are not a commodity that is easily replicated, in most aspects, for a great deal less elsewhere -- if YOU don't manage your career, expect someone else to do it for you
ymmv, as always |
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