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Ducxl
| Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 07:04 pm: |
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but all things being equal I can run circles around my Buells' with my Ducati 996(which spots the Buell over 200ccs). I love Buells' (you just can't imagine) but they're not the end all.I'm still hoping for a scary fast Buell,one ENGINEERED for RWHP at 120. One that doesn't need special heads and special stroker kits/open airbox/Drummer pipes/NOS,or any of the other Hi-po parts that many seem to have to add in attempts to make their Buell a superbike/hypersport |
Buellshyter
| Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 07:17 pm: |
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I give up |
Blake
| Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 08:36 pm: |
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Court, It helps that your riding partner can probably bench press a Busa. If only we could coax him out of his mild mannered shell. I'm thinking a full blown track day might just do it. |
Buellshyter
| Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 09:39 pm: |
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They have BattleTrax at Homecoming? |
Snail
| Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 10:24 pm: |
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Thanks to you guys for sticking up for me. I wasn't bashing Buells, I just got irriated at a post by cityslicker about how each ride they converted Busa riders into Buell riders. Sure. I rode the Aphroheide (or something like that), a road in SW Oregon known for its very tight corners. I was held up by the Buell riders. The point I made was I own and ride both. And the Busa is faster FOR me than the Buell. Ricket, when did your ride a 340 HP bike in a straight line??? Blake, you should have put me in charge over here a long time ago...these guys are regressing!! |
Jima4media
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:02 am: |
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Blake, You are right, you have dug up a number of authoritative, truthful, considered, and thoughtful posts by anonymous sources. I apologize to those posters. But who is going to own up to these pearls of wisdom, and yapping little tirades? Rocket, you horse's a**. Man, you truly are a jerk stewing in your own poison. Blake, don't ban him, shoot him! ------------ It is sickening to see the negativism towards Buell when they just started and have already had a start on success. I just have to stop looking at this site; it makes me really dislike people in general. -------------- Trojan, You have no idea what you are talking about in "ripples through the showrooms". Buell is having record sales. You may want some different "grand racing plan", but you are in the minority. Buells last year won more race championships with non XBRRs than ever before. XBRR's are being prepped around the world for different series, and they will race in much greater numbers than last year. ----------- Oh ye of so little faith. Not all of ye, mind ya, and thanks for those keeping it. It's going to be a great, great couple of years. With what will you wash down the humble pie, Reg? Get a BIG BIG glass. ------------ I love the internet. It's a fools paradise --- Rocket Truer words have never been spoken. If you want to know what's happening at Buell, just read Rocket. Then understand that the opposite is more likely true. ------------- Not that anonymous . . . Why in the world would someone give B_s's posting a 1? Man there are some really strange people on here. Neither torque curves nor horsepower curves well describe the power delivery characteristics of motors in motorcycles. There is much more to it. >>I too understand the Blast. It's a cash cow. Cheap to produce, expensive in comparison to purchase.<< Different anonymous here. ROTFLMAO, currently. I do know what it costs to produce the Blast, and Rocket knows not of what he says with such confidence -- but what's new. ------------- I thought it was confidence if you can back it up. Otherwise it's just arrogance. Must refrain... won't say it... oh God it hurts... ARGHHH!!! Lots of races will be won in the coming years by XBRRs, and the parts will be there. Probably upgrades too as more is learned. I'll bet Erik isn't sick; after all what if someone buys it and wins a championship? That's be cool! Orngm2 For taking sniveling to heretofore unimaginable heights. Capt. Pete Wannabe/Closet Admin The trick is in moving from the paradigm of measuring everything under a simplified system. Test tracks where stops are performed are nearly perfectly flat, with prepared and consistent pavement. Totally different than the real world. ---------- A significantly lighter front wheel will outstop a heavy wheel on an irregular (bumpy) surface every time,and by a much larger margin than the emasurement differences above. It will also outcorner it as Blake says. It is basic physics, and if you don't believe it, that just means you don't have the educational background. Unfortunately, neither do most writers (Steve definitely excepted here!), so the information never gets out or explained properly. --------------- Jim, BS about the Honda lapping the Buells in FX. That has never happened, and in case you don't remember, Mike and Mike were really in the hunt last year. Mike C was outbraking the factory Hondas a number of times early in the races until the power of them got away, and Mike B finished fourth in one FX race. These bikes all ran single ZTL discs despite what BrianH lies about. Go look at pictures from the races. And I'll bet this type of brake does show up on Moto GP bikes one day, just like underslung exhausts will and are showing up. And the race track is not even where these brakes have their real advantage. Why does Buell have to be considered stupid? There are great engineers at Buell with radical American innovative thinking at work. -------------- <give> I think that was done many years ago. The King KNOWS how a motorcycle should be designed, he doesn't need any hayseeds from Wisconsin telling him stuff. ------------- Sorry, guys, I am so sick of Rocket's coments degrading Buell engineering it's hard to describe. The guy is an ignorant jerk with a small following of Buell haters here. There's no smoke and mirrors, the f'in XB chassis works superbly because we busted our ass on it. Rocket, You're claims around the XB chassis are incredibly absurd and ignorant. I wouldn't of course suggest that you are actually absurd or ignorant; I'm sure it's only the claims that you make that would lead one to that opinion. Did you ever think what might have become of you if you hadn't let your true self be masked by this apparent rudeness and stupidity? What a waste of a potential world leader, I am sure. Trojan, Quit shooting off your ignorance. The XBRRs have finished and won quite a few times this year,including several endurance races. Yes, you had a poor year with your XB effort, but what does that have to do with the XBRR? Your negative comments show your frustration with yourself; don't take it out on those not deserving. You are one of the ones mocking the XBRR for being 3 seconds off the winning pace (we weren't at Mid Ohio), but laud these guys for being four seconds off in practice and four LAPS down at the end? And we are doing it with a freakin' 1950s motor! Go away and live in the glory of England, you know the classic "mainland fogged in, Sheene finishes 11th". More of Rocket's truths I guess. Let's see, top 5 reasons to roll on the floor laughing every time Rocket posts: 5) Soichiro Honda rose from the dead to eat a hamburger with his customers while Erik sits in an ivory tower, 4)Peter Clifford is paying for MotoGP out of his own pocket, 3) Foggy is out racing WSB, I guess out of his own pocket...no wait what is that word petronas doing on the bike?, 2) the Ducati 851 went from drawing board to total world domination in 18 months, and (drum roll) #1) given Erik's money the Rocketman himself would have built the parts to win Daytona, and no doubt would have rode it himself! |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:14 am: |
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Snail, Who said you weren't in charge. We're still working on implementing your last round of suggestions. Jim, You would have earned big respect if only you had stopped before the "but". Think positive? |
Snail
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:47 am: |
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If I'm in charge can I ban Rickets? Where'd he go, the slimy limey? He was trying to imply he has ridden a 340 HP bike. I think he's full of it/himself. Lets ride! |
Rocketman
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 05:52 am: |
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Ricket, when did your ride a 340 HP bike in a straight line??? Never, I've cornered a few when I was testing for TTS.
That said, it's truly sad how you portray the size of your manhood. Let's face it, you've come from fishing boat to 340 HP in a few short years, and you're still plotting courses in a straight line. Does that Gixxer of yours have radar? Try riding less HP fast if you wish to impress me, as your current efforts to go fast are more the result of gross financial over indulgence. Anyone can win with enough money - which is not what Burt Munroe did. Ricket |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 06:37 am: |
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If being full of oneself were grounds for banning, I'm afraid we'd lose the majority of contributors here. Besides, the ones who are really truly full of themselves end up leaving on their own accord after a while. I meant to say before that it's truly very nice to see you poke in for a visit here. I miss your interesting stories and witty cutting humor. As for Rocket, he may be "limey", full of himself, wrong on so many levels, more stubborn than an old goat, brashly opinionated, and as human as any of us, but he ain't ever "slimey." The truth is--this may surprise folks here--that Rocket is my friend. That ain't always an easy thing as I often disagree with him and dislike much of what he has to say on certain issues/subjects, but I'll stand by him as a friend. The same goes for all my friends, including you, if you still count yourself one. A friend who is unwilling to endure disagreement and/or forgive misbehavior is not and never was a friend. I count my friends among my most cherrished blessings in life. Can you believe that Thursday February 8th will be BadWeB's 9th birthday? (Message edited by blake on February 06, 2007) |
Snail
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:06 am: |
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I'm a couple years younger than ol Burt. Not many. There are similarities, I build my own engines, too. Ricket, do you have a pic of you actually riding the bike? I'm skeptical. One of the FIM records I took was from a New Zealander. (The other FIM record I took from a Spaniard.) Blake, whenever there comes a time when we aren't all a little bit boastfull, a little bit arrogant, and a little bit show off, will be the time to quit riding bikes. "Watch this" ia a common motivating factor. Hey, I'm 50 years older than Badweb! (I shold be in charge). Friends? Hell yes. |
Snail
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:18 am: |
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Ricket, it took me two years to build the first engine, nobody had ever done it before with a Gix. Trying to get that much HP from a 1K engine was new ground. I have approx. $10K invested in the engine, parts only, my labor. I won't bore you (yawn) with the details of getting all that stuff under the hood. Sorting the chassis and building a fairing is still ongoing. Riding it was easy once I got the hang of going sideways at 200+ MPH. My best speed was 220.4 What was yours? |
Imonabuss
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 09:18 am: |
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Geez, Jima4, some of those posts are bratty, but some of them are pleasant and others really informative. I don't understand why you list all of these as "yapping little tirades." Oh well, each of us has his or her perspective, I guess. |
Choptop
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 11:23 am: |
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quote:Now take this lean and mean line and stick it in dealerships that, 1) give a damn and, 2)understand the bike. Next, lose the current, and long-standing, ad agency and replace it with one that has a passion for motorcycles and understands the unique charactoristics of the Buell. Then, someone needs to go to P&A and kick ass and take names... for ten years I've heard excuses from any number of HDI execs re the pathetic P&A response to Buell. And every one reeks of CYA BS that's justified by the whiney "..the volume just isn't there." Grow some balls, someone.
in short: Give the bike to Modesto Ducati - Take notes on how they do it. Hire Me as the advertising agency. Reference my work with Ferrari, Hot Rods and Ducati (soon to come) as a resume. Hire Reg to kick ass around the business end of it. and tell all the quarterly report clinging monoliths at HDI to keep their friggin mits off Buell while keeping the $ tap open. They can stick to what they know, making the same cruiser bike over and over for a hefty profit and being too scared for their jobs to try anything new. They are good at that, not at making a sport bike work in a competitive market. |
Firemanjim
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 11:50 am: |
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Let alone a dirtbike--- |
Regkittrelle
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 11:55 am: |
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"They have BattleTrax at Homecoming?" Say WHAT?} |
Rocketman
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:41 pm: |
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Slug, it pleases me to see I hit a raw nerve. Not very nice is it. It gives me no pleasure to say - you've had it coming for a long time. Racket |
Jon
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 02:48 pm: |
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I invented Battle Trax. I will do everything Chop said he would do for Buell, but for 10% less. Of course I have no qualifications, but then again, I am 10% low. Yes, it's true I designed the Busa back in the day. I never intended for this design to be used for any turning whatsoever. People that are turning them are asking for trouble as they are pushing the envelope. And who is the Snail guy? Chuck Yaeger? Yeager? Yayger? Yayger-Lager? Well?! So how can there be a Battletrax event at homecoming with out the Battletrax man Reg? Hmmm. BTW, Good seeing you last night, Reg. Your presence (and presents) is appreciated. We should talk Battletrax as an ASBN event. I bet we could do 2 a year easily with our crowd. |
Regkittrelle
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 03:39 pm: |
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May I be so bold as to inquire about the BattleTrax ref in regard to Homecoming? Where dat come from? |
Steve_mackay
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 04:17 pm: |
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Not to get off topic here... But if'n ya want battletrax during homecoming... Beg Hals to hire good 'ole Reg to come over to Wisconsin during Homecoming http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/171 43/255294.html?1170646101 |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 04:52 pm: |
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Reg, Court made a passing mention of the "Homecoming" BattleTrax of 1998. |
Court
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 05:46 pm: |
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The BattleTrax at the 1998 Event was RRE. . a "REAL REG EVENT". You'd be nuts to ride anything else. A BattleTrax course, properly laid out, is a hoot 'n holler. However, send some lackey to the back lot with a box of cones you're inviting trouble. There is more, like Reg, to BattleTrax than meets the eye. Hell, I'd be willing to ante up a fee and spread the cost of a RRER (Real Reg Event Revival" amongst the assembled folks! |
Regkittrelle
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 05:55 pm: |
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Thanx, Court. But the insurance costs have all but killed it off. The alternative is for the cliento provide the insurance... hard to do. What I would really like to do would be to get a few of us together and we, as a group, stage an event. |
Rocketman
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 07:14 pm: |
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This is Ghost Rider Patrik Furstenhoff Rocket (Message edited by rocketman on February 07, 2007) |
Jaimec
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 07:15 pm: |
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I'd wondered what happened to Battletrax. I LOVED riding it whenever I could. I'm sorry to see it go. |
Jon
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:11 pm: |
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Reg - "Thanx, Court. But the insurance costs have all but killed it off. The alternative is for the cliento provide the insurance... hard to do. What I would really like to do would be to get a few of us together and we, as a group, stage an event." How'bout we rob a bank? Court could go inside with a note that says "Hand over $28.73 or I will do a burn-out in the lobby. I have a Busa". At this point she FREAKS out and in a hurry to get Court outta there, just hands him $30! He wouldn't even need a gun! We pick up $1.27!!! How's that for an ASBN destination ride? Who's with me!!? |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:27 pm: |
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Right now, though it sounds interesting, I think I will choose a summer trip to the Deals Gap area over a trip to homecoming. If there was a battletrax at homecoming, a RRE, the math changes dramatically. |
Steve_mackay
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:32 pm: |
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Reep, then we need to tell Hals that's what Buellers want for Homecoming! Tell 'em! http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/171 43/255294.html?1170646101 Kirk Toppel(owner of Hals), tried to get Reg for last year's homecoming, but something didn't seem to work out. |
Imonabuss
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 09:08 pm: |
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Jon, Dude, I'm in! |
Jon
| Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 09:18 pm: |
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You and me, Mushman. And Court! somebody has to go to jail! |
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