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Statik
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My Buell has been registered on the road since 05. I got a letter today from the NYS DMV stating that records show my title is wrong and they have put a "stop" on it, keeping it from being reregistered or sold.
They want me to immediately send in my title as proof of ownership.
Am I the only one who got one of these?

Only thing I can think of is that is regged as an HA/DA and maybe all of that is being changed to Buell soon?

and no, its not stolen, its from Woodstock Harley Davidson.

arg.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nope. But back when I traded in my M2 Cyclone for the XB12Ss, the DMV transposed a digit on my license plate that I didn't notice until it became time to renew my registrations. I tried to use the web page, but it kept telling me I had TWO Buells, and they didn't know anything about my BMW. Spent the whole day tracking down all of the paperwork to fax to Albany to prove it was THEIR F-U. FINALLY got it all straightened out. What a pain!
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Hammer71
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jed. Dont send them anything. Go down there and see WTF is going on. That way you dont get the "We never got your paperwork crap" I dont know if you are up for it but the Goshen office is the best one in the area to work with(might be worth the half hr ride).

Arg..... I'm a Pirate now and I like Yellow
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Barker
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DMV's suck.

My brother went to title his X1 in Virginia.
It went something like this.

DMV: You bike is not showing up in the computer.

Bro: what?

DMV: The is no such thing as a Buelly

Bro:A Buelly? its a Buell.

DMV: Yeah. its not in here.

Bro: Let me speak to your manager.

DMV: OOOOH-KAY i'll be right back

Supervisior: Who made you bike?

Bro: Buell

Supervisior: Let see we have Buelly here under model, kinda of bike is it? Honda? Kawasaki? Suzuki?

Bro: It is made by Buell, They are owed by Harley but its not a Harley. The model should be X1. Not Buelly.


Supervisior: Ok I got it fixed. Sorry bout that.


Turns out you can search the database by make or model the guy searched Buelly and it returned a valid model but not a valid make? WTF?
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Statik
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks guys.
hey hammer wanna come to the dmv with me when I go, you can wear that shirt I got you.
arg. yellow pirate.
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Ulywife
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with Hammer - don't send anything, go in person. This way you can go as far as necessary to have this resolved. Keep track of everyone's name that you talk to and document everything! Best of luck!
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Statik
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah. as far as the sending anything in, it was the 1st thing I thought as soon as I read it, NO WAY not sending, if anything I would send a copy, but that wont help.
gonna have to go in person and bring mr yellow pirate and his threatening shirt.

everyones titles say HA/DA right?
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Hammer71
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd have no problem going there. I usually get better service when I go in my work clothes though. Goshen Office is the ticket though as they are the main "HUB" here in the Hudson Valley. When you go bring everything you have, ie. current registration, insurance, title and if you still have the sales paperwork bring that too. Give them no reason to request more paperwork (although the current reg and title should do fine) By the way have you checked the vin on the title with the one on the frame? If they dont match then you know whats up before you go.
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mine says Buell

Mass. title
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Thespive
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

California thinks mine is a Harley XB9SX. They won't change it either, because the bank is the legal owner and only the bank can change it.

--Sean
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Mikexlr650
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

stat,
if you need help let me know. we have a friend that works at the newburgh dmv office, she's usually able to help us out with very little stress. i have to go see her next week anyway to figure out whats up with my trailer reg.
mike

rich,
did you ever speak to fritz. he's on the bus as we speak!
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Hammer71
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jed, Just took a look at my title. Ny title should read from left to right(for you Hebrews)

Vin Number, year, Make (mine says Buell, think thats the problem) model code (N/A) body (mcy) document number.

Seeing yours says HA/DA it makes your title and reg. invalid. Take title and reg to DMV. You will need to fill out the green form and go from there. Dont let them give you the usual BS about motorcycle reg is in April you can renew anytime. If any problems give me a shout and I can see what I can do.
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Zenfrogmaster
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I handed the Arizona DMV my Massachusetts title when I moved here, and they gave me a hard time because MA calls it a Harley. "It doesn't say Harley anywhere on this motorcycle!" was their position. They also couldn't find Buell in their database. The VIN matched, everything was in order, but they wouldn't pass it until I pointed out the primary cover, engraved "Harley Davidson Motor Company".

Apparently a bolt-on satisfied their requirements. Maybe I should have registered it as a Crossroads!
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and they gave me a hard time because MA calls it a Harley

my mass title says buell
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Hammer71
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike, No I havent, been kinda busy. Call me.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My M2 has either a Z miswritten as a 2 or a 2 miswritten as a Z (can't remember which) from when it was new (before I bought it). DMV could not find the make based on the VIN, but did the title anyway. This was the third state a 2 year old M2 had touched, so I was happy I didn't have to sort it out. Traded it in just the way I got it, with the VIN I was given and that the DMV registered...

Hate to think of the paperwork that will have to be unsnarled if it ever goes to a fussy DMV.
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Damnut
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MA----- mine says Buell
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Eboos
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"MA----- mine says Buell"

Same here, but my insurance company didn't have Buell listed. I think they have it as a BMW.
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Rokoneer
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My New York State Title, issued in '03, says Buell.....
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Statik
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for all the comments, I know the dmv well. this is gonna be an ordeal. thanks mike. If I cant do it here then I can trie compton, I mean newburgh where you have the connection. maybe bring hammer in his work clothes.
going upstate sleddin for the weekend.
talk to you guys about this when I get back.
peace
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Ulywife
Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NC - both say BUEL (they only use 4 letters!)
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Chasespeed
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, the first Buell I tried to register in VA, and no kidding....

The only Bu listing, was...

Buick

But yeah, my Title says, Buell(TX currently)

Chase
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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still laugh . . . I went through something similar in 1989 when the number of Buells in the world was less than the number of folks in this thread.

Supervisor: "there is no such thing, it has to be either a Bricklin or a Buick"

Eventually we worked it out but it was a dandy. . .
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Almost as bad as the SC DMV when my Dad tried to register a Four Wheel Drive (builder of industrial trucks) for his employer.
DMV employee: "What kind of truck is it?"
Dad: "It's a Four Wheel Drive."
DMV employee: "No, no. Who makes it?"
Dad: "Four Wheel Drive"
etc, etc.
Dad finally did convince the guy to look it up and confirm there was a manufacturer called "Four Wheel Drive".
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can only give you one good piece of advice when dealing with these sort of people, (yes we get the same sort of problems here in France) leave anything that might be considered a weapon at home & keep your hands in your pockets as much as possible to avoid smacking the smug ignorant gits.

I no longer have a problem with vehicle reg's I have a HD chop riding friend who works in the local place, I ring him up, meet him in one of our favourite bars, he takes all the papers away & does it for me.
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Pilot
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I went to register a 27 indian scout.
DMV. What is the VIN?
Me.In those days VIN was not invented.
DMV.How many miles on the speedo?
Me. In those days speedo's were optional.
Went to the police station filled out application for a defacto VIN.
Went back to DMV with number and still was asked about the mileage. Seems that every box on the registraion form has to have something in it or it does not compute.I also was supposed to stamp the long vin into the frame which I never did.
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Light_keeper
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My title said Buell and my insurance said Buell. Maine has Buell listed as a manufacture(sp)
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Cochise
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pilot, if that ever happens again just tell them 1 million miles and see what they say.

: D
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Cochise
Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In Arkansas my 2001 X-1 was a Buell but my Firebolt was a Harley....
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Cereal
Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The title for my XB9R in Washington, DC says HD XB94. I told her it was wrong, but she said it didn't matter and ignored anything else I had to say.

As I was leaving after four hours of the classic DMV run-around, I notice there was one of those machines with a blood pressure cuff near the door. Are they making fun of us?
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Buellerandy
Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is a little off topic but still a funny story.(one of those Darwin moments)

The last time I was pulled over was by the Wisconsin State Patrol - an agency I was currently in the hiring process for- and upon his second approach (where they hand you your license back) we got talking about one of the first times he had ever pulled someone over on a Buell. I believe the rider was a guy and the officer asked him what kind of bike it was. The rider told him it was a Buell. The officer said thats what he thought but its not registering in his computer system. At that moment the rider became extremely irritated and began yelling at the officer about how it better be in the system and how its an American bike owned by Harley Davidson and blah blah blah.

To make a long story short, the guy was only going to get a written warning, but then earned himself a disorderly conduct and i think the officer said he almost wrote him up for threatening an officer.

To me...thats just one of those moments where you just shut your mouth lol...
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Statik
Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just got back from upstate, my buell is still an HA/DA until I make it to the dmv with hammer behind me in uniform.
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Hammer71
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Work Clothes.
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Statik
Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

right.
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Statik
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still haven't had the time to take care of this yet. But, I did notice something I didn't notice before.
return address on the letter:
DFI-Auto Theft Unit.
fun. (I am 150% sure its not stolen)

maybe my bike stole someone's auto?
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