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Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 12:33 pm: | 
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I still like my quote best "the internet is where midgets profess to play NBA basketball"
Lots of opinions, few facts. |
Soloyosh
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 01:02 pm: |
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Can you envision the look of the service manager at the local Harley shop, while I push in my '09 Buell for service with mud dripping off it
I think that is the exact reason for the early announcement. The dealers are going to need time to prepare for this. |
Daves
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 01:36 pm: |
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yes, they are.
Hopefully they will do it.
Can you imagine a 300 lb, full beard,Tattooed, leather vested HD salesman trying to sell a dirt bike?
Not picking on the 300 lb HD types, heck I have friends that fit that description. But, they don't sell dirt bikes for a living either.
This is going to be a HUGE change for Buell dealers. |
Buellshyter
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 01:43 pm: |
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Has anyone noticed any activity up at the Buell factory in regards to construction of additional buildings? I would think adding another line of bikes would require more space. This would be the first step before actually starting production. |
Davegess
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 01:48 pm: |
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some HD dealers already sell KTM. Uke's comes to mind. |
Diablobrian
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 02:09 pm: |
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I think it was mentioned recently that the blast production line was integrated into the
XB line (right Court?) which should clear some room for another line inside the production
building.
That is speculation on my part, about there being enough room for another line, but
I had said before if the blast line was eliminated or changed into the XB chassis there
would be room for a different production line in it's place. I was speculating on it being
where the next generation street bike (water cooled?) would start, but it could just as
easily be used for a multi-model dirt/motard/dual-sport line. |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 05:54 pm: |
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If Buell comes out with an lightweight air/oil cooled Supermoto, or even just a dual sport, I will be buying a new bike. |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:04 pm: |
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Lots of opinions, few facts.
Funny how my opinions get a raise out of anonymous posters, yet my facts have 'em running.
I'M STILL WAITING FOR ANONYMOUS TO GET BACK TO ME WITH THOSE BLAST PRODUCTION COSTS, SINCE THEIR OFFICE HAS BEEN OPEN AT LEAST 3 DAYS.
Things sure are slow at the office.
Rocket |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 12:22 am: |
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The other guys in the sales crew don't get me, don't get the brand. They introduce me to everyone that even whispers the word "Buell". Riding the bendy and dirty every chance I get. The only time my bike gets washed is at service appts. Hell I earned that mud.  Dirty Bike? ... Fabulous. |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 12:22 pm: |
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I'll reserve my comments until I see what transpires.
About dealers, I agree. Our Buell sales have plummeted since we lost a sportbike enthusiast sales guy. I even sold a Buell as a parts guy. I'm too honest to be an effective salesman, though.
(Message edited by Rick_a on February 01, 2007) |
Red_chili
| | Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 01:51 pm: |
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Funny how my opinions get a raise out of anonymous posters, yet my facts have 'em running.
I'M STILL WAITING FOR ANONYMOUS TO GET BACK TO ME ...
Rocket
I'm just sure their not getting back to you is because you have them on the run. Just sure of it.
Hi Anony!
I used your LA Times story to encourage a friend the other day. IOW, stay focused on the essentials, the details can totally change but the essentials will carry the ball for ya.
You can build a great dirt bike with a clean slate. How many year-year changes occur with the CRF450? YZ450F? Even the KX450F? Not so much. Good designs don't need but incremental improvements.
In a few years I'll be looking for a replacement for my XR650R made street legal... |
Molly_hatchet
| | Posted on Friday, February 02, 2007 - 03:14 pm: |
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hey slicker if ya'll get u some dirty bikes u give me a call..i raced for years i know me some dirt il sell ya'll some buell dirty bikes...ur gonna need help slicker . |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 08:48 am: |
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I'm just sure their not getting back to you is because you have them on the run. Just sure of it.
Well clever clogs, your sarcasm might read cool in one thread, but when you're intelligent and bright enough to ask or provoke the kind of questions many want answered on this forum, you can kiss my royal backside for me being the one dumb enough to be asking them.
Rocket |
Crusty
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 09:29 am: |
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when you're intelligent and bright enough to ask or provoke the kind of questions many want answered on this forum
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Retired_cop
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 09:43 am: |
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The dealer show in Florida was full of information on the line up of off road/motocross bikes getting ready to be introduced. The full line will be like the Honda XR and CRF lineup of sizes for the whole family. They are supposed to be aimed directly at the big four and AMA ready for the competitor. The 450 will be the flagship of the line to start. Our HOG chapter got this info on Thursday. |
Indy_bueller
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 10:17 am: |
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Diablobrian:
I think it was mentioned recently that the blast production line was integrated into the XB line (right Court?) which should clear some room for another line inside the production building.
Yes, the Blast and XB lines are currently integrated. The old Blast line was used to produce the XBRR. When I was at the factory for a little tour just before Christmas, (Thanks Court!) Kenny (my tour guide) gave me the impression that the Blast was going to be moved back to its original line (but I may be wrong). He also said words to the effect that Buell outgrew the buildings they are in now the day they moved in, and apparently there had been some discussion (or at least rumors of discussions) of purchasing land on the other side of the highway, near the airport.
I would agree though, unless the new dirt bike line is very closely related to the XB, (read: Practically identical except for the suspension and tires) They will most likely need additional space to set up another assembly line.
Rocketman:
I'M STILL WAITING FOR ANONYMOUS TO GET BACK TO ME WITH THOSE BLAST PRODUCTION COSTS, SINCE THEIR OFFICE HAS BEEN OPEN AT LEAST 3 DAYS.
I seriously doubt if you will get it. I'm certain something like that would be considered a "Trade Secret". Therefore no one outside of Buell would be made privvy to that information unless there was a legitimate need, and I don't think an internet pissing match qualifies. Somewhere between $0 and $1 under sticker is as close as you are going to get. Anything else is at best an educated guess, with no proof or numbers to back it up.
Rocketman:
Well clever clogs, your sarcasm might read cool in one thread, but when you're intelligent and bright enough to ask or provoke the kind of questions many want answered on this forum, you can kiss my royal backside for me being the one dumb enough to be asking them.
I have yet to understand why the question is important, let alone qualify as "intelligent and bright". Its plain to see that you only want the information as a means of rubbing Buells collective noses in shit. If I were them I wouldn't play your game either, so give it a rest.
(Message edited by Indy_Bueller on February 03, 2007) |
Court
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 11:44 am: |
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All Buells are currently "gumballed" on the same line.
>>>(Thanks Court!)
You are very welcome. . by the way, that was not JUST "Kenny" that was KENNY ROGERS. 
>>>I seriously doubt if you will get it.
He won't. He's no credibility to warrant a response. No one at Buell will play the game.
And my personal favorite. . .
quote:Buell outgrew the buildings they are in now the day they moved in,
Damnit . . . it JUST keep's happening . . I remember when this was the move to end all moves. . . .
Next thing you know . . . it's off to Woodcrafters to build the 300 (you did know Buell was SUPPOSED to be ONLY 300 bikes and that was it? . . right?) . . who'd have thunk orders would pour in. . . and off to 2719. Damn. . . that didn't work. . .now we learned to heat S-2 tank covers to speed things up and we're still in a pickle . . .let's expand. . . "yes, Mr. Commissioner. . . we PROMISE, the trailers will only be there for 90 days"((fingers crossed behind back)) . . what now, well let's add 5,000 SF to 2719. . yeah, that'll last us forever. . . damnit. . . we could use DOUBLE this for the new R&D effort . . . okay. . let's build 2799 . . but that's it, I promise. . . spin ahead to summer 2006 . . . guess what . . . we have a chance to move into a very large space in an undisclosed location that NO ONE will know about . . not even Court will be able to find it . . .
Yeah . . .that's it and then we'll never need to move again. . . . oh, unless we build dirt bikes.
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Rocketman
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 06:44 pm: |
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No one at Buell will play the game.
Just to be clear Mr Big, the Blast conversation was between myself and another poster. The meat in the sandwich was whether or not the Blast had watered down the Buell brand.
I wasn't playing a game. I can't say the same for the anonymous poster who interrupted the discussion asking ME to play the 'Guess The Blast Build Price Game'.
Man do you have to be such a no it all?
Just last week I was shooting the breeze with the drummer from the most successful British chart band in history. Yeah, he played drums in a friends band at my 21st birthday bash, when he was just 14. He's a prick by the way.
Two weeks previous I was on the phone to a great friend, since we were 11, and he was the first black fella to cover an Elvis song and top the Billboard 100 with it.
I could go, but you know what, speaking of playing, I find the name dropping game vulgar. Riding on the crest of someone else's name / fame was never my bag. But you carry on. You're the champion of that game.
Rocket |
Woody1911a1
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 07:21 pm: |
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Just to be clear Mr Big, the Blast conversation was between myself and another poster.
no it was on here!!!
it wasn't in private , when you post/reply to a thread on a public forum stop f'ing complaining if some else answers .
geez |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Saturday, February 03, 2007 - 09:50 pm: |
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Wood, I'd much rather debate whether or not the Blast has watered down the Buell brand or not without you acting the smart arse trying to play the good little Buell owner.
I've not complained about anyone participating in this thread. On the contrary. In fact I've welcomed the input of some that suggested they could solve the dilemma going on here. That said, you're not one of them, though I do note your presence in just about every thread I'm in.
If it's your purpose to pursue my every post, might I suggest you add something of your own to the board rather than dissect my every word in an attempt to feather your own cap. Either that or get a life.
Rocket |
Buellshyter
| | Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 07:58 am: |
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The meat in the sandwich was whether or not the Blast had watered down the Buell brand.
The focus is to make money and a profit for your investors. If that means selling unicycles and guitars then so be it. Don't confuse one product with another and end up getting your panties in a wad. |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 04:39 pm: |
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You newbies are the ones getting your panties in a wad.
Stick around as long as I have and I'll guarantee one of two things.
You won't owen a Buell by then, or you'll still be waiting for whatever it is some have already waited years for, and are still waiting, and waiting, and waiting, and wai................
Rocket |
Indy_bueller
| | Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 05:10 pm: |
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Rocketman: Man do you have to be such a noknow it all?
Just last week I was shooting the breeze with the drummer from the most successful British chart band in history. Yeah, he played drums in a friends band at my 21st birthday bash, when he was just 14. He's a prick by the way.
Two weeks previous I was on the phone to a great friend, since we were 11, and he was the first black fella to cover an Elvis song and top the Billboard 100 with it.
I could go, but you know what, speaking of playing, I find the name dropping game vulgar. Riding on the crest of someone else's name / fame was never my bag. But you carry on. You're the champion of that game.
What names did I drop? Court and Kenny? You are the one trying to impress us with your insinuated intimate knowledge of accomplished musicians.
I'M STILL WAITING FOR ANONYMOUS TO GET BACK TO ME WITH THOSE BLAST PRODUCTION COSTS, SINCE THEIR OFFICE HAS BEEN OPEN AT LEAST 3 DAYS.
You newbies are the ones getting your panties in a wad.
I'm sorry, whose panties are in a wad? Seems to me there is really only one person here who continues to press the issue.
}Stick around as long as I have and I'll guarantee one of two things.
You won't owen a Buell by then
Maybe, maybe not. It's pretty hard to predict the future. |
Crusty
| | Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 06:00 pm: |
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Stick around as long as I have and I'll guarantee one of two things
You'll love your Buells more than ever, or Rocket will get even more delusional. |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 08:06 pm: |
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You can't read. I was addressing our regular know it all and name dropper, who said "no one at Buell will play the game".
Rocket |
Red_chili
| | Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 09:29 am: |
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Zzzzzzzzzzz...wha...?? oh. Ahem...
Back to dirty bikes...
So the question to me is, will they be competition as in off road only, or competition as in FIM Enduro, or... ???? |
Lost_in_ohio
| | Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 09:05 pm: |
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Hey did I mention I would really love a 50cc bike for my son instead of a honda. |
Red_chili
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 03:53 pm: |
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Bump. Inquiring minds want to know what *kind* of off-road competition... |
Trojan
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 09:45 am: |
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They are supposed to be aimed directly at the big four and AMA ready for the competitor.
That has a familiar ring to it. I have heard a similar phrase before somewhere and can't quite put my finger on it.....? |
Glitch
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 10:49 am: |
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Well if they're serious about competing then it would only make sense to come up with a 450cc 4stroke. Light weight would be key. |
Red_chili
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 03:27 pm: |
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I can imagine a featherweight perimeter fuel-in-frame platform. |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 01:43 pm: |
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Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:06 pm:
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And another blast has left the store in the last week, suredly there is a market for that lil bike. Another rider out on one of ours and a missed opportunity for Honyamasaki's. Her logic was why get something that was trying to be something else (ie a harley knock off), if you cant be true to your own styling what does that say about the rest of the bike? Her words not mine. {hopefully she joins us here soon too} |
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