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Thin_air
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As always I am amazed at the information available here. FYI the new Samsung plasmas are rated for 60,000 hours. We are now into a 13 bit processor with this generation of plasmas. I have to buy a new TV every 6 months or so (poor me) just to stay on top. If anyone cares I am a dealer for everything and I have a Samsung plasma (5073) hanging on my wall. Very happy with it. As far as price they continue to plummet and will continue to do so.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They got it and I helped set it up.

Even with just the SVHS cable it looks great. They did not have any components that supported component video, SVHS was the best common denominator.

The install went pretty well. Amazing how a TV that can look insanely large in the back of a minivan suddenly looks "about right" on a wall.

And the color saturation on that Plasma HDTV was nothing short of amazing. We got all the kids together and watched "Cars" (great movie, be you a kid or an adult) in HDTV from the DVD player (again, SVHS cable only) and the level of detail was amazing... much better then when I saw it in the theater.

Thanks again for the help.
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99buellx1
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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HDTV from the DVD player (again, SVHS cable only)




that was not in HD then.
No DVD is HD regardless of the cables you use. (i know, i know, upconvert...but that's kida a different topic)

When you watch it in real HD, you will be just as amazed as you were this time.

Cars is on it's way to my house right now on Blu-ray. Should be great.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info Craig, that was not clear from any of the docs I was looking at, and is good to know.
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Ferret_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If they have digital cable/satalite service they should be able to pick up at least a few HD channels already as well. (might require a box change however).

(Message edited by ferret_bueller on December 19, 2006)
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99buellx1
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is a common misconception that DVD is a HD format, when it is not. There is simply just not enough storage room on a DVD to hold all the required data for a full-length movie.

This is a simple and interesting read for anyone wondering about the new formats that are available and have true HD. (and uncompressed 7.1 audio for you sound guys)

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/blu-ray.htm
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm guessing they need a box change, as we never found any high quality pictures coming out of the cable box. They were all pretty ugly. This is Time Warner in Ohio, and they had the basic low end digital cable box with antenna and SVHS outputs.

I just hooked it up through the antenna, as it did not look any better with SVHS, and I figured the TV would do a better job of demodulating then the cable box would.

So, how is it "supposed" to work? I guessed you just hook up the antenna out from the cable box to the antenna in on the HDTV, and when you get to an HDTV channel the cable box should be propegating along the HDTV modulated signal to the TV to turn into an HDTV image?

Or will the "HDTV" cable box have the component video output / DVI connectors?
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Ferret_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

some newer HDTV maybe have a built in deocder/tuner for over the air broadcasts (hooking up antenna). Most do not and require a seperate box to decode those signals.

the cable box, yes, just ask them to swap the box for a HD-box. it should have at least component output and maybe possibly DVI as well. Just a regular cable box you wont be able to get those HD-channels even if your TV is capable of it.

Depending on what level of service they have, they should get a few basic channels at minimum (perhaps HD channel 2, 4 etc..).
If they are paying for HBO etc, they will most likely get those channels in HD as well (on a different channel. regular HBO might be 402, but the HD version will be on 1102 or something like that).
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Greenlantern
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now that the definition (no pun intended) of HD has been established, who's going to open the Pandora's box that is bandwith? (or did I just do it?)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am ignorant.
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Thespive
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 03:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just bought a 50-inch Samsung 1080p DLP. Its freakin'awesome!

My only complaint is that I bought the HDMI cable and my Time Warner box only had componant capability (althought the upgrade to an HD box was free, which was a pleasant surprise!). Circuit City took my cable back and I bought some upgraded surround speakers. Even with the cables I have, picture is fantastic.

--Sean

(Message edited by thespive on December 21, 2006)
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Ferret_bueller
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 03:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there are actually a few TW boxes out there that DO have HDMI, but its not supported yet. The ones out there may or may not work so most boxes are just the component or DVI. The component cables should be just fine for signal.
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Dbird29
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did anyone mention www.monoprice.com for cheap HDMI cables?

Super fast order fufillment too.

I love my 46" Sharp LCD just fine thank you.
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Greenlantern
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sean, Component cables will give you equal picture quality up to 1080i resolutions as hdmi cables. So unless you have a hdmi 1.1 surround receiver for sound capability or a HD/Blu-ray player for 1080p resolution don't sweat it.My Fios box supports both connections but my tv only has one hdmi port. As I also have a Oppo upconvert DVD player which requires hdmi for upconvert to work.I was going to buy a hdmi switch but after boning up on the component/hdmi subject and running the Fios box through both connections I just run component from the Fios which has the same "wow" factor picture as the hdmi output.

--Randy
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Greenlantern
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did anyone mention www.monoprice.com for cheap HDMI cables?


Great advice! Everybody can save some serious scratch buy NOT buying overpriced digital Audio/video cables.... digital signals do not care about gold plating or quantum braiding just like your cold does not care if you use Dayquil or Nightquil,it doesn't have a watch. No signal degradation as with analog cables especially over the 3 to 12' lengths most people will be using
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