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Glitch
| | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 02:39 pm: | 
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remember when games were fun and motorcycles were dangerous? |
Greenlantern
| | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 02:46 pm: |
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Mortarmanmike120
| | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 02:59 pm: |
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ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha
Very funny glitch! |
Johnnymceldoo
| | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 05:18 pm: |
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Games are the best theyve ever been. When I was just boy I played with BB guns, rode my bicycle without a helmet doing wheelies and we played smear the queer. Nowadays alot of those things dangerous and insensitive or even illegal.
Maybe we all just need to get more in touch with our feminine side? |
Dragon_slayer
| | Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 07:57 pm: |
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I agree with the lack of respect statements. I think a lot of us have a touch of it. I think we can help each other by pointing out the lack of respect more often, but in a firm and polite way.
BTW, I more worried about being killed by the lack of respect for red lights, then a kid with a gun. |
Mortarmanmike120
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 04:24 am: |
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Interesting question Johnny. Yeah we did alot of stupid stuff growing up. I remember taking long trips with the family and I would stretch out and sleep in the rear window of our monte carlo. I forgot about smear the queer - yeah definitly not PC.
I disagree with getting more in touch with our feminine side though (assuming the male perspective that is.) I think many of our societal problems are because men are no longer acting as Men. Not the swaggering machismo sexist type of masculinity. The type of masculinity where a man took responsibility for his actions and the welfare of his family and community. Men who respected their neighbors and demanded respect in return. Men who would walk into hell to protect his friends and loved ones. Men who would do the right thing even if it was unpopular. Men who took an active role in making their sons into future men. Men unafraid to apply whatever corrective measure was necessary to prevent their son from becoming a murdering sociopath.
This is not to say that these traits aren't present in females, but they were (in my opinion) MAN's greatest strength. Now we've told men: don't be a man, don't use your natural strengths and talents, be more like women. Where has this gotten us?
Men afraid to act.
Men afraid to raise their sons.
Men who don't understand duty.
Men who later tell the newspaper "Uhh, I don't have any idea why little Johnny shot up his highschool..."
Yes, I can hear the arguments already. Men are responsible for all the bad stuff. Men used to beat their kids and wives and such. Like I said previously, I'm not talking about the macho bully type of men. Perhaps the REAL men should've been the ones to deal with that type. As it is now, most men have been immasculated to the point of uselessness.
whew... deep breaths now... can you tell it's been a crappy day at work?
Sorry for the rant. Thanks for your patience. I'm not a socialogist, but I did stay in a holiday inn last night.
Peace.
Out. |
Stingaroo
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 03:59 pm: |
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Well said gentlemen. Mike I agree with you 100%
I was hyper active when I was a kid, had a hard time sitting still, and paying attention in elementry school. My Dad started making list of things for me to do before I went to school. Then when I got home, I would wake him up and we would work in the shop till 10pm when he went to work. When kids made fun of me, he told me to stand up, if its worth it shut them up, if not walk away. Things may start with a fist but it ends with your mind.
They did not buy me much, everything I had to earn by working in the shop, or working at a farm. It was not until I turned 15 that my Dad bought me a 1973 CJ-5 for $400 to repay me for some projects I helped him finish. It was not street legal, and took a full 2 years to restore and get it back on the road. Looking back it was fantastic, kept me off the streets. Today he is my best friend, and too me thats what being a parent is all about.
FPS games can be fun if you understand the real life situations you are thrown in. I never played PS2 until I started college. My buddies thought it was the greatest thing in the world to play Medal of Honor. I never cared for it much, and when I brought my M-1, 1903A3, BAR, and carbine up to school, trained them on each one, we would shoot, then clean them, they had a new understanding. We no longer play those games, we just hit up the range a hell of alot more!
Raising sons is something I have dreamed of doing. Teaching them the values of family, friends, community and country is key in my eyes.
Duty is another topic. Duty could start out as small chores around the house. Hold them responsible for it. Give them something to be proud of when they are done. Show them how to help their communities, through Boy Scouts, local sports teams, Explorers, etc. Maybe after that they would want to be a policeman, firefighter, or a soldier, and give back what the community has given to them. A place called home.
Ok I'm done going off.
Brian Cessna |
Daves
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 06:53 pm: |
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it all started when they gave kids more power over their parents than the parents have over the kids. There are endless examples. I see it everywhere.
Not quite sure when this happened but it was after I was raised by my parents. |
Red_chili
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:53 pm: |
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Hi, I'm Bill and a Buellaholic. And a former licensed counselor...
I see one common thread between the FPS concerns (which I share), and the Ritalin and other psychotropics prescribed freely.
Inattention. Inattention from the parents, inattention from general practitioner docs who have a high caseload and minimal differential diagnosis time, inattention from teachers who have far too high a class size, too low a training (and therefore pay) level, inattention from extended family members... and immediate family members with marriage issues... leading to isolation and loneliness, which the games sorta kinda soothe. Sorta.
By the way, if you want to make something reeeeally addictive, set it up so it sorta kinda meets a basic need. But only sorta. Bam. Hooked.
Ritalin (or more modern ADHD drugs) are effective IF monitored, and IF prescribed after other alternatives are exhausted or only partially successful. I would never refer someone to a GP for psychotropics, only a psychiatrist, and only in the course of all-around treatment including behavior, relationship, spiritual and career considerations. Sometimes we get depressed because... life can be depressing! And we need a strategy as well as a boost.
I would DEFINITELY watch for any sign of bipolar disorder- some BD people (for instance) sometimes like the highs (who can blame them), they want something for the lows, and know how to work the system sometimes. And they can look like ADHD or just aggressive and anxious, too.
Add prozac and an AR-15, and DUCK. I do believe this scenario accounts for a lot of the scary events recently.
The treatment for bipolar often leaves the person feeling just 'gray'. Tough sell.
We just want quick fixes, and cheap too. In that light, the German legislation is actually a symptom of the very problem they are trying to solve. |
Red_chili
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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And FWIW, it's not just limited to kids either. I have a friend with a business, doing well, new house, great wife, great daughter and a son with some health struggles. Cancer survivor too. Lucky guy.
He's been staying at work late, staying in the basement so long he just falls asleep there, less involved in church, almost no involvement with his kids. What's he doing? You guessed it.
His business is suffering, his wife is arguing with him, his kids feel abandoned, and angry, and he gives me this song and dance about how he feels a sense of community with his online buddies. |
Phantom5oh
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 02:33 pm: |
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That sounds like an addiction to me Red_chili... |
Greenlantern
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 04:55 pm: |
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He's been staying at work late, staying in the basement so long he just falls asleep there, less involved in church, almost no involvement with his kids. What's he doing? You guessed it.}
Trying to top Blake's post count on the Badweb?!? |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 05:55 pm: |
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Although the FPS games get the bad press, The real time burners are the massive multiplayer online role playing games. MMORPG Not to say that Halo didn't eat a few weeks off my life.
When your normal day is working in a job you don't like, or being out of the right clique in school, a fantasy life as a shaman mage/seal socom warrior has some appeal. The impact on family & mental health may be grave.
Or it could just be recreation.
I hesitate to put psychoactive meds in the same category as Worlds Of Warcraft, as I don't like to put Hooters & genocidal rape ( see Bosnia ) in the same discussion. In both the WoW & Hooters case, It's a proportion thing. Get some, use some. |
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