| Author | Message | ||
     Greggrthomas |
(transfered form www.swmosportbikes.com) I have a perspective; quote Originally posted by kdogg why does everyone hate on the buells? No one hates Buell's, some people seem to be uncomfortable with the fact that Buell's corner better then most other production bikes. It's not hatred, it's more like a deep seated personal regret eating away at their sense of self worth, because they know their own choice in motorcycle lacks this indispensable trait. Buell riders are a more highly evolved type of human being, having advanced skills in all categories of human endeavor. This is because of special technological innovations in the design of all Buell motorcycles (ALL HAIL OUR SUPREME MASTER ERIC BUELL). When you throw your leg over your own (paid for, bank loans don't count) Buell, your testicles* actually start to grow and your cerebral cortex realigns the syntax of your brain into a pattern that improves functional capacity by 15 to 30 %. * the effect on females is still being researched, apparently the're still smarter then men. (sorry, I just had to 'represent') | ||
| Diablobrian |
ummmm it's Erik Buell. not Eric, but good show. | ||
| Mesa_cityx |
Technological Superiority, Period, End of Sentence, Paragraph, Chapter and Book. You have two eyes, ears, hands, feet. Why do you want four wheels? | ||
| Buellnuts |
I've heard it all now! Bob | ||
| Lowflyer |
I love my Buell, but... **CAUTION: Reality in the text below** I think the reason other sportbike riders hate Buells is because some folks that ride them put forth a false image of superiority with nothing tangible to back it up. When a Buell races and wins at MotoGP or in Superbike, we'll have some bragging rights among the other sportbikers because that is typically their measuring stick. The fact is, Buell doesn't make a technologically superior bike. They make a technologically different bike that we like to believe is superior. We are a relatively small group not because we are superior in any way, but because we have different values. We like the nerdy stuff that makes our bikes unique, reliable, and fun for real-world riding. They just like bikes that win races. There really is no direct comparison. No flames here, just a different opinion. (Message edited by lowflyer on November 23, 2006) | ||
| Rogue_biker |
I just started as a Buell owner a few months ago. In the past, everytime I mentioned Buell to fellow riders, I was bombarded with negativity like you wouldn't believe. Everyone who has NEVER owned a Buell seems to know someone who has a friend who owns a Buell and that bike was ALWAYS breaking down, dropping nuts and bolts, etc. And why on Earth would I want an engine designed in the '50's when I can have a high-revving multi-valve engine with 30-50 more horsepower?  Fortunately, I have never been the type to fall for fads or the latest and greatest trend. Okay, I did with my Hayabusa back in 2000 but for my own personal reasons. I'm the type that tends to do a lot of research on bikes, gathering up my own facts, before making a decision. This is why I waited until 2006 to get my XB. Nor do I choose a bike because of what other people say, especially those who are ill-informed and have never ridden one! I'm also not into impressing other people. Bottom line, I don't care what others say, all I care about is my own ownership satisfaction. With that, the Buell Firebolt fits me perfectly. And so far, I have not been disappointed with my decision. To this day, the same ill-informed people who have NEVER owned a Buell make the same assinine statements about the brand that isn't even true. There are just too many naive people out there, and there always will be. (Message edited by Rogue_Biker on November 23, 2006) | ||
| Iamike |
I've had more stuff fall off and break on one of my Honda's than I've had on my Buell. | ||
| Greggrthomas |
I have an addition; Whoa...Whoa...there....pony. I only posted this just to have some fun, give us Buell riders a little chuckle. Didn't mean to start the old "Whose bike is better debate" again. Keep the humor in your lives, it's good for you. Remember: 80% of the people on this planet, go to bed hungry and wake up hungry. We're the lucky ones. I'm just a bike rider who wants to enjoy every breath I take. Have a great life! It's the only one you get! P.S. Sorry about misspelling Erik's name, "I apologize Oh Great Master Buell" | ||
| G234146 |
 Tell em' Greggrthomas! | ||
| Cowboy |
I like Buell just the way it is. If they become to popular. Mother Harley will price them out of reach. | ||
| Teeps |
What's to hate about a Buell? Ride it, park it; Repeat. No blink to clean, and changing engine & transmission/primary oil is the bulk of the maintenance. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I have only had my Uly for 5 months and have put over 8000 miles on it. I love this bike!! It will be a long time before I think my riding skills are above what this bike can do, if that ever happens..... | ||
| Josh_cox |
I see you've made it to BadWeb! You saw what I posted on swmo too I'm sure. I love all motorcylces. Different ones are better for different purposes. Buell happens to make some very nice street bikes. Do I think Buell makes the best cruiser, dirtbike, trials, or other? No. They make great street oriented sport bikes. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
I don't hate my Buell....I just hate winter. Speaking of which...it looks like winter has been temporarily suspended. I'm going for a ride  | ||
| M2nc |
A friend of mine and I worked at the same place. He stumbled on to Buells when his wife bought a Blast. This was about the time they released the XBs. He bought a XB9S and rode it to work. A lot of people rassed him. The Sport Bike guys said it was too underpowered and the Harley guys said it had a "Chick Bike" motor. Today he has moved away but left a legacy. There are three guys on Buells that ride them to work on a regular basis. Even though we do not out number, the Buells get ridden to work more so in the parking lot our three Buells do out number. No one that knows me says much about my Buells. The Cruiser guys are quiet because they know I ride as many or more miles / day than them, and the sport guys know I can hang with them on the curves. They also know I can either out handle or out range them if you flip the groups around. Most understand that I ride allot more miles than most and have hung off around curves on the side of mountains that most would not dare. One time a guy at work with a claimed 140rwhp Road King was talking about racing the M2 but I said there was no point in it. He asked why and I told him, "because sooner or later the road was going to kink and then we both know it is all over but the crying. So no point in proving what we already know." He never talked about it again. I don't play the superior bike theme. Each bike has its advantages and disadvantages. I ride Buells because it fit my priorities in a bike when I was looking for one. I like many here want a garage full of bikes. I don't have the money for that so I have to buy the bike that covers the most wants for the buck. For me the Buells were it. If in the future I come along a small fortune, I will have more bikes and they will not all be Buells. I want a freeway Touring Bike, and today Buell does not make one. I want a trail bike and today Buell does not make one. I want a Cruiser and today Buell does not make one. I want a high revving Sport Bike and today Buell does not make one. But make no mistake, if only one or two bikes can be in my stable, the Buells are it. | ||
| Daves |
Our supposedly "false image" isn't any different/more false than the GSXR riders "false image" that since he rides the same bike as Matt Maladin that he is as fast as Matt. | ||
| Bads1 |
The Road King is going to kink ??? | ||
| Hdbobwithabuell |
 G'damn I hate all the dumb-arses that think they are somehow better or worse than the next dumb-arse because they like a particular football team, brand of car, motorcycle, etc, etc. Sure there are a few people that make HUGE amounts of money and get HUGE amounts of fame (the football players, racecar/motocycle pros, etc) The rest of us, we just ride and drive what we want and the next guy does the same, so quit giving a crap what the other guy has. 'An old guy's rant is over... | ||
| Lowflyer |
"Our supposedly "false image" isn't any different/more false than the GSXR riders "false image" that since he rides the same bike as Matt Maladin that he is as fast as Matt." My point was that bragging about superior cornering as the basis for Buell being a better bike, while it may be true, just makes the GSXR guy question your sanity. This is because Matt M. does not ride a Buell, and neither does anyone else with whom a GSXR guy might identify or otherwise try to emulate. | ||
| Spiderman |
all you Buell Hatas...  | ||
| Crusty |
What does ERIKWNED mean? | ||
| Chasespeed |
I have put up with a bit of this, and a it of that, regarding my choice in bikes.. No one busted my chops about my Ducati 748, it wasnt as fast as the I4 jap bikes.. BUT, it didnt say Buell on it. In VA, I was able to get to places rather easily where I can push the bike...AND HARD.. Down here in TX, well, the highways run straight as an arrow as far as I can see(I know there are exceptions). I am content with making the bike more show than anything. Its slick, unique, and paid for. I am not going to go out and buy a bike, based on what others think. Though, my favorite arguments are.. "Hey man, you REALLY need a Gixxer...." "Why? I can just borrow any of the 8 in the parking lot..." Or "Man thats fkn cool, havent seen anything like that before.." "I know, thats the point.." Sure, all our egos feed off of others opinions, to a certain degree. Its impossible for that NOT to happen. The day I sell my Buell and get a bike based on the "popular opinion"...I have basically gone against everything I stand for.. That is not to say there arent a fwe projects in the works.. Chase | ||
| Spiderman |
Crusty, http://www.owned.com/ | ||
| Daves |
I know what you were saying Lowflyer. I just felt the need to point out that if any group has a "false image" the GsR1CBR guys have it at least as bad as Buell riders. They identify with a bike because of race wins. The bike that wins races has about as much in common with their bike as a NASCAR has to the family sedan they are based on. Same with Buell, the RR isn't a XB12R A XR750 isn't a Fatboy Ben Spies GSXR1000 isn't the one you or I can buy. Racing is great marketing to those that want to believe they are racer quality. But, it is ALL IMAGE with very little substance in the bike/rider or reality.They buy a really fast bike but never take it out of town,to a track,to a race? I know there are many very good riders here.I know many very good riders that ride the other brands. None of us are that good. Except Rocketman, of course.  It's the same thing with a lot of HD riders. Instant badasses,just add a HD,shave your head and some leather. All image. Pretty funny sometimes. I can't count how many times I've been "Bro'd" by people that just bought a bike. They feel the need to portray the whole "biker" image, they just bought. | ||
| Cochise |
I can't count how many times I've been "Bro'd" by people that just bought a bike. Have I ever bro'd you, dude? | ||
| Daves |
nope but your Bro has  Being "Bro'd" is kind of an inside joke | ||
| Pwnzor |
ERIKwned is just like Pwned... | ||
| Rocketman |
Dave I don't buy that theory the racer is better than the guy on the street. There's really no argument that makes either the racer or the road rider any better than the other. Any prune can buy himself a £2500 Aprilia 250 race bike. Get a race license and wear an orange bib for so long until which time they come home high enough they get a tick. Enough ticks and they're bona fide racers. Doesn't make them a better or faster rider than you or I. Especially on the open road! Put it another way. There are thousands of great guitar players who don't play guitar for a living. Then there are those who play guitar in a successful chart band. Just because they are in a successful band doesn't make them instantly better than the guitar player holding down a regular job. Prominence doesn't mean the best at anything, including riding motorcycles skilfully, fast or however. I'm not Rossi. I think that much I would know. That said, if I were 20 odd years younger and as light as I was at that age, I'd wager I could have cut the mustard in racing motorcycles. What makes anyone who never saw me ride qualified to judge what I'm capable of? I know I have friends who can ride the wheels off superbikes and dirt bikes alike, and they have raced at Clubman level. Given the right circumstances I can think of three friends who I'd say would (not could) have gone far, but they were and still are running their own very successful businesses instead of trying to make the big time in motorcycle racing in Britain. One of my friends bought a 125 racer about three years ago. He's in his early 40's now and hadn't raced for about ten years. Got on that 125 and won his first outing. There were kids on that grid half is age and very well rated. Another old friend of mine was a pro racer until injury held back his career. He was unfortunate enough to impale himself on a wooden fence pole at Olivers Mount. At that same track where they run The Gold Cup, he was up there on the top step several times keeping company with Barry Sheene, James Whitham, Mick Grant, Philip McCallen, Derek Chatterton, Charlie Williams, Tony Rutter, Roger Marshall and Jim Moodie. He also placed 5th at Macau in 1998. Never had any real success other than that but he was once a contender for BSB. I took his CBR600 out for a burn one day. This was around the break in period just before the bike was gonna be race prepped and no longer road legal. He asked me what I got indicated on the speedo. He was shocked to find I'd seen that kind of (fast - lol) speed on the street. As a pro racer, he wouldn't go there. What I (probably) love most about motorcycles is riding them fast, and I love doing that on the open road. Not irresponsibly by the way, but when I know in my head it's an ok time to do so. But there's a caveat to that. I love being the underdog. That's why I've never owned a R1, Fireblade, Gixxer or similar. Working in the trade for years got me plenty of seat time on those bikes anyway. Much do I prefer carving up some fast guys on fast bikes on my S1W when the road dictates their advantage is of no real use to them. Just because I don't go around the BadWeB boasting about how many European countries I've ridden through, or how many rock stars I have as personal friends, don't make the mistake of thinking I'm just trolling. I've been there, worn the T shirt and lived to tell the tale. Trust me - you're in good company. For your further enjoyments of things Yorkshire, peeps, here's a good pic and description.  It's a bit difficult to see from the picture but the circuit runs basically from the middle of the central road you can see with the bend in it down towards the bottom of the page until it disappears into the trees where it doubles back, up the Hill re-emerging just above all the cars you can see on the right it then follows the perimeter of what appears to be a field until bearing left and back into the trees, two hairpins later and your dropping down back to the start finish straight(ish), the Monument is the left hand bend taking the circuit back into the trees. Yes I am a motorcycling god. Today I am Troy Freakingburger Frankenfarter the Peoples Champion  | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
We're not worthy, Oh Master. When I was a young idiot I used to ride the wheels off my jap strokers, usually off the road & into a field or sidewalk. | ||
| Daves |
I would agree Rocket(geez,did I just type that?) There, I am sure, riders out there that are as fast as all but maybe the top level of racers. I have seen this at track days,many times. I also agree that being fast on the track doesn't instantly mean you will be fast on the streets/roads or vise versa. Different playing fields with different levels of risk. |
