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Percyco
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok....so my pre-teen daughter wants a ipod for Christmas.

I dont know anything about them other than some play video and some dont. What do you recommend ?

Thanks !

xmas shopping sux
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Gmc310
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got a 4 meg iPod nano ,it was around $200 holds 1000 songs and sounds great , That is my suggestion, Gary
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At the other end of the spectrum, I got a sandisk sansa for $50 (one gig flash drive and MP3 player with monochrome text). You are not going to impress anyone with it, and the audio quality is "fine" but not outstanding. It has a built in FM tuner, and appears to be well made.

I use it as an MP3 player that can be used as a usb thumb drive in an emergency.

Runs on AAA batteries.

Nothing impressive, but good for the money.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the iRiver H10. I like it better than the iPod I had, becuase, it has a removeable(read, REPLACEABLE) battery. I had 2, but lost one, anyway, was nice, could go16-24 hours listening to it, while riding and what not...

6 gig storage, also stores text, and pics.. I am sure it does more...

The iPods and iRiver, also can do video, I have a buddy that has a couple of WHOLE MOVIES on his iPod... hmmm.. ok...

Anyway...

Chase
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Snub13
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reepicheep said;
"You are not going to impress anyone with it"

Did you miss the part about this being for his pre-teen daughter? That is what pre-teen (and a hint for the future Percyco) teen life is all about!

I too have been looking for these things, I guess I have it narrowed down to either a 4gig or 8 gig ipod but the Sandisk and iriver sound interesting. Great, more research.

Good luck Percy, you may have better results asking a late-teen/earily twenties friend/relative to do your shopping!
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Thespive
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go iPod, much more accessories, excellent after purchase support and get the extended warranty from Apple for it.

--Sean
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Toona
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't forget Creative Labs. Nice product, price competitive w/ the Ipod. Nice part about most any other mp3 player (other than Ipods) is you can save the music format to mp3, wma etc or rip/burn directly to the player. The Ipods you have to download into your Itune folder (which changes the format to an itune only format) then upload to the Ipod. Just takes longer and I don't think (my personal opinion) that the music sounds as good, because of the low bitrate of info. With the other players you set the bitrate to a higher quality-but you can't get as many songs on it. There is always a trade off.

I'm looking at a Creative Zen M 30gb or Zen W 30 gb for myself.

In the interest of fairness, I did buy a 2gb Ipod Nano for my 11 y.o. daughter. She didn't want anything else, but an Ipod. Status/peer pressure-I dunno?

(Message edited by toona on November 24, 2006)
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Ducxl
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Huh,i'm really interested myself.I'd like to know how small the physical size can be purchased.And are there drawbacks to it
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

from experience and still living with it , regardless of how much you research , the one that is the best is the one SHE/HE wants !!!!!! the ONE her friends have !!!

researched , this is 2 yrs ago when apple's getting sued for the batteries dying that can't be replaced . bought her a creative labs 4 gb and me a bigger format 60 gb .

hers works great , sounds great , but she frowns because it's not an ipod .

damn she even borrows friends ipods and then sits and plays with them ;-(

it's not whats best it's what's going to make her the happiest that counts .
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Buellgirlie
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ipod nano. soooooooooo amazingly small. i had an ipod mini, and once i held a nano, i couldnt resist. i sold my 2 minis on ebay and bought a nano.

D
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got the Sansa, small, decent, cheap, battery I can change. My cell phone shuts it off sometimes if kept in same shirt pocket. Loud enough. I recommend Sony ear buds, Shure's if you've got the excess cash. I'm using Sony noise cancelling buds ( $68 at Amazon ) on the M2.

(Message edited by aesquire on November 24, 2006)
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G234146
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Teens want IPOD. Anything else and you risk getting a funny look.

w/video, of course.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No matter what you buy, it'll just be out of date next week. Be the eccentric dad and get her a vintage AM radio you have to put up to your ear.

Talk radio, sports, and Spanish polka stations keep kids out of trouble.
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whatever you buy, please think about spending your music dollars on the only legal site that is doing things the way they should - plain ol' vanilla mp3's (No DRM) at http://www.emusic.com/
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go with the ipod. I bought my son one a couple years ago, and my self one for the gym this year. But then I'm all about status
No, not really... but I still like having a better ipod then he does.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of the benefits associated with the ipod is the access to Itunes which is a pretty large collection of music. "Generic" MP3 players do not have access to this library. An ipod can access this and still be able to play MP3's. This factor alone might sway some decisions.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How's it going with that spyware that Apple was putting on people's computers when they used itunes, did they quit doing that? There were some things about it that didn't sound like anything I'd want to have on my computer.

Jack
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Brad_buell
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have two ipod Nano's in the family and love them! They sound fantastic! Tested out my friends Zen and sound quality wasn't even close.
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Essthreetee
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the 30g video ipod...I previously had the 4g and filled it. I hated being forced to select songs to put on it (due to the 4g) so I went as big an ipod as they had (at the time). No regrets.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If the 'cool' factor is involved, get the iPod.

The Ipods you have to download into your Itune folder (which changes the format to an itune only format) then upload to the Ipod.

Songs bought from iTunes are in a 'Protected AAC Format". Songs imported from CD's are MP3's, but you can change the settings to other formats.

...it has a removeable(read, REPLACEABLE) battery

iPod batteries can be replaced for $50 at an Apple Store, and a bunch of places online offer DIY kits.
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've a lot to learn but have Barenaked Ladies playin' on my new "Creative ZenV plus" (?) MP3 player.Sounds cool!
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Doz
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My daughter (15 years old) says the Ipod nano's crap out real fast. She knows everything, just ask her.
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Thespive
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We have 2 Nanos, no problems. Mine is a 1GB, which I use with my Nike+ stuff to work out, my gf's is a 4GB, which she ses ALL THE TIME. No issues with either. I also have a mini 6GB for a couple years, no issues with that one either.

--Sean
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My 14 year old did his own research and wants an I-river.


FWIW look for solid state memory if you intend to use the mp3 player while riding.

A hard drive can be damaged by the vibration of a bike.
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Hammeroid
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

for your daughter get any ipod
for riding get the ipod shuffle
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Xgecko
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We (the wife and I) have 2 40gb a 10gb (image storage for travel) and a 2gb Nano(hers alone). We've had nothing but good luck with them over the years. I want the new shuffle for travel, riding, skateboarding, snowboarding and such
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a Blast...uhh,err,Xb12r while riding/w one today.I can see many uses.Like currently at the shop the only receptive station has begun playing 24/7 christmas music.These sound cancelling buds with aid using this thing at work.WOO-Hoo i'm rockin'!!
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Rr_eater
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ONE thing to keep in mind about MP3 players is their intended use and operation. What I mean is their level of expected abuse. Keep in mind players with internal hard drives will obviously have moving parts. Moving parts in a running, riding, mobile abuse evironment will not last forever. I have been through 3 such different players, and they all had failures related to the hard drive and vibration.

I now have a 8 gb Nano (thank you wife!!)that is RAM based, and as such, no moving parts, and no issues!! Works great, sounds great, easy to use while riding or jogging, just an awesome piece of gear, so far.

Just wanted to put that out there.

Bruce
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Too heck with apple. Get yourself a regular old MP3 player.....4 gig ones sandisk I believe was the brand could be had for less than 100 bucks this weekend. Mine is bout half the size of a pack of cigarettes.

NO HARDDRIVE or Rechargable battery to fail. Just a single AAA. Last me a week at work playing 5 hours a day or so.

Plus I don't like how invasive itunes it on the pc.

Of course I never have followed the herd, Just because it is popular doesn't make it the best.
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Jeffb
Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't buy a Rio Karma. Very expensive and a piece of junk if they are still on the market.

Jeff
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Mortarmanmike120
Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree Jeff, the Karma was crap. I took mine to Iraq (granted not the best enviornment) it crapped out. Then I wrote Rio a "sad soldier" letter and the replaced it. The second one lasted the whole year, then crapped out too.

Make sure you DONT get one that is a portable hard drive, get the one like a thumbdrive. They are less susceptible to vibration.

For your daughter - definitely stick with Ipod
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Ikeman
Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought both of my kids these last year for about $120 at the time. They trashed the headphones within 6 months but that was easily remedied.

Decent sound and they're happy with them.

http://www.mobibluamerica.com/dah1500.html
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Doz
Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ooops, the nano are ok. it the newest one that isn't supposed to last too long, but what do I
know, I've still got cassettes, vinyl records and even some 8-tracks!!
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No love for the Zune...

http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/147048, CST-FIN-Andy23.article

"...the overall experience is about as pleasant as having an airbag deploy in your face..."
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Espcustoms
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's no debate. The iPod is so vastly superior to every other player out there in terms of all-around usability that I wouln't even consider another type. The 4MB nano would probably be just right. I don't know how I lived so long without my iPod!
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