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Shea
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was riding through the city on my way to an appt. Traffic was sort of heavy, so I played it cool. I see an LEO behind me, then another to the left of me, then I suddenly see another on on the right side of the road. The one on the side of the road stuck his head out the window and motioned for me to pull over. Odd, but wouldn't have been the first time it happened. I thought, surely I didn't do anything wrong. I tried to think if I may have accidentally run a stop sign or light, but could not think of one.

The officer walks up and says "You're not in any kind of trouble, I just wanted to see your bike."

Phew, man, that scared me. He went on to say he had been wanting to check out the Buell and wanted some feedback.

I talked to him for a moment, but then told him that I had to get going for my appt.
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Irideabuell
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That really was uncalled for, but cool just the same.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Even if it was a very minor one that was an abuse of the officer's authority.
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Eboos
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Agreed. That is like pulling over a hot chick just to check out her a$$. I doubt she would be as flattered.
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Statik
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ugh. kinda pisses me off a lil bit.
what if you didn't stop, would be in trouble then I bet.

yeah its cool that he is interested in a buell, but when I wanted to see a Buell I had to go to the dealership.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Happened to a friend of mine in the late 80's. He'd just gotten his brand new BMW K75, and got pulled over by a cop on his way home for the same reason; the cop had one on order and wanted to see the bike up close and ask him about it. My friend was flattered, not insulted.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That happened to me a couple of times when I first got my X1.

They had valid excuses for pulling me over but it was clear from the conversation what the real reason was.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No matter how flattering it is to have someone admire your bike..

That is Friggin BS.....Total abuse of authority.(period)

He should of done what all law abiding citizens do. Aproach you on his time...ie gas station, at a light,etc. Not on your time (tax payers $)or the citys.

Still a cool story though. lol
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Xb9ser
Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use to drive a 39 chevy and got pulled a couple of times so cop could check it out. One time cop said I was speeding but he would let me go cause he knew those old cars speedo didnt work right.
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U4euh
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He didn't get pulled, he got flagged down! Jeesh! I'd been wondering what I did also.
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Seth
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 03:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...i'd have been flattered...
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Spreadem
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 03:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shea-If anything I presume about what happened is incorrect, please say so...

The officer didn't pull him over with lights flashing and siren blaring...that would have been abuse. The officer was curious about the bike and flagged him over. Granted, a normal person would reasonably assume they were in trouble, but cops are curious about Buells just as much as anyone else...cut the guy a break for being nice and trying to start a conversation...
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Shea
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spreadem,

I HAVE been pulled over in that manner before. In fact, I have been flagged down twice in the past and ticketed. Once by a state trooper who was standing in the middle of the road pointing to the side of the road and another officer, who I suppose couldn't get behind me to put on his lights.

I never said that it was abuse of his powers, that was everyone else. I was not pissed, just in a hurry. Also being that I have been flagged down and ticketed in the past, I thought this was legal/apprpriate for police to do this.

Lastly, ab0out the state trooper, I would have fought that ticket, but it was in MD and would have been a royal pain the arse to fight. I had a pretty good case against it too. No orange vest and it was near dark, almost making me cause an accident because I was unable to see him well, making me park in a dangerous area where I was almost hit several more times etc.
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Paw
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats like my brother who got pulled over for doing an U-turn in his pickup right along with 3 other cars, he just happened to be the last one to do the U-turn and after the cop gives him a ticket, the cop sees his H.O.G. card in his wallet as my brother is putting his license away. The cop started to ask him about his Harley and what kind he had. My brother told the cop look you did not pull me over to socialize did you? So i'm free to go, have a nice day. I agree with SgtHigg, A cop should do his socializing on their time not our tax money time. That short period of time they waste talking could mean life and death to the next person who really needs the cops help.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...cut the guy a break for being nice and trying to start a conversation...
Had it been me I'd have been too shaken to talk. Weather or not I've done anything wrong, I get real nervous when getting pulled by the cops. Lights or no, when a cop motions for you to pull over, it's still a command from law enforcement. Around here if that had happened, and I ignnored the cop's request, I'd bet money the lights would have come on shortly thereafter. There are far better ways to drum up a conversation. The way I see it, if a cop is in a cop car weraing cop garb, being flagged down should gain as much respect as lights in the rear view. There's nothing that would piss the cops I know off more than being ignored while trying to get someones attention to pull to the side, lights or no.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got lit-up last night on the M2. It was a good stop too,,,,I offered to buy some evening chow and the young lady accepted,,,no ticket.

That girl makes her daddy proud : )

G2
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Ulywife
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Typeone
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

funny story, but i agree with the others, admiring my bike or not, that is total BS.

should have asked him to return the favor and drop a 'get out of jail free' card on you for the next time you meet under different circumstances.
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Bartimus
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been pulled over, at times, for bending the speed limits.
Often, the discussion turns into a Buell question and answer session, that ends with my getting a stern warning, and them getting an earful of Buell propaganda.
I've even let a motor cop down in Tucson ride my S2 once.
(he wouldn't let me ride his cop bike in return though) : (
I used to see him running radar every morning when I was taking the bike out for it's morning break-in after I had the 1250 kit installed in it. He finally pulled me over for 10mph over the limit on the 4th day in a row, and we ended up in a lengthy discussion about motorcycles that ended when I asked him if he wanted to take a spin on the S2. (I ended up getting a warning that time also). ;)
Cops are people too, it's not an easy job they do. I don't think I'd mind being pulled over just to discuss motorcycles.
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Bdabuell
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Had it been me I'd have been too shaken to talk. Weather or not I've done anything wrong, I get real nervous when getting pulled by the cops.

me too....getting pulled over makes me real nervous. The cop needs to keep that in mind - his uniform, car and authority have a certain effect on people, regardless of how good his intention is
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Panic
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cops are people too

Only when they want something. Otherwise, they're BETTER than you are.
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been given enough passes on rightous stops to figure my Karmic account is overdrawn --

LEOs (who also make me very nervous -- early operant conditioning is tough to overcome) take enough crap from people (earned or not) that I figure 5 mintues of time is a good investment (again, into my personal karmic account)

I've been "requested" to converse about a couple of things I've ridden/driven (the MaDuece when it was new, the 65 fastback stang when it wasn't), and always made the time to talk -- when I was running our of either time or patience, I explained that I had to go, and we parted on good terms

I'm convinced this has paid off in a number of ways, but, of course, ymmv
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Spreadem
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess IMHO there are much worse things in life than an enthusiastic cop wanting to compliment your bike. Maybe I'm a different breed, cause I think I would actually enjoy being flagged down and having a cop drool over my bike. Why's everyone scared of cops? I think logic would dictate that you should be more nervous about common citizens flagging you down than a sworn officer. Seeing how cops protect people from criminals, and enforce laws, the only reasonable presumption I can come up with is that if you're nervous, you did something wrong.
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Spreadem
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Almost forgot, Shea-

I know it was everyone else saying the whole "abusive cop" spiel, I wasn't directing that at you. I was just asking you to clarify if any of the facts I stated about your encounter were incorrect. Sorry for the confusion...

Wade
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well Wade, you obviously live in a different place than I.
I've met no so nice police officers in my time, one of the reasons I get nervous when being pulled over.
With my past experience with the law, getting flagged down, while not doing anything wrong, is cause for concern.
I hope you get to stay in your place where all the cops you meet are cool.
I have nothing against cops, just weary of them, that's all.
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Bdabuell
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the only reasonable presumption I can come up with is that if you're nervous, you did something wrong.

right...i think that's part of the problem...I do not expect to be pulled over unless I did something wrong, whether I'm aware of it or not

I don't have any problems with police at all...I know some great guys who are cops...

all-in-all, this would end up being a positive experience...but I'd still be worried (unnecessarily) initially
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Spreadem
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch-

Actually I am a cop, and most of the people I work with are cool, but to err is human, and there are always a few bad apples. I work at Fort Jackson SC, and I would absolutely hate for an innocent passerby, enjoying their afternoon, to be SCARED because they saw me.

I would like it a lot more, and think the point should be, that the person feel SAFER when they see me. The only people I want to be nervous around me are the ones up to no good. Am I making any sense or am I talking out of my ass? :c)

(Message edited by spreadem on September 28, 2006)
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Debueller
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got asked by a county cop about my XS 1100 in 1978. We talked a while and said goodbye.

About 6mo later the same cop pulled me over for doing 60 in a 35. He remembered me and let me go!! (he said he would only do it this one time)

It pays to try to have the cops on your side whenever possible.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would've sold him one!
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The_new_guy
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spredum - Good comment, unfortunately there are many people(around me anyway) that view cops as a'holes. If they get stopped for speeding and get a ticket, it was because the cop was a d@#k and not because they were breaking the law. I'm not saying the majority of people are that way but I have observed that many times. Thanks for doing what you do because it ain't easy. It can be an easy job for 20 years but it can also go to hell in a few seconds.

Just my 2 cents
Gregg
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