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Asdf
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody have more insight about this?

"The 450 ATV MX specifications are noted on ATV 450 Specifications And can be purchased at ATK Dealers and Select Harley-Davidson Dealers Nationwide.

ATK the second oldest Motorcycle Manufacturer in the USA produces Handmade “Ready to Race” Motorcycles and ATV’s in Centerville Utah."

http://www.atkmotorsports.com/

If they would ever make a street legal Dual Sport, I could see owning one. A street legal Super Motard would be cool, too.
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Typeone
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wonder if you can street their '07 Motard http://www.atkusa.com/

man, when i was a kid all i dreamed of having was a big, nasty ATK! amazed they're still bumping along. i just picked up a dirty bike after way too many years (97CR250), the guy i bought it from had an ATK in the garage sans motor. been years since i had even seen the name around.

EDIT: they sell a 'dual sport' kit too http://www.atkusa.com/specials/DualSportKit.aspx

(Message edited by typeone on September 18, 2006)
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks to me like the crappy unreliable Cannondales, ATK must have purchased the assets to the moto side of the business when they went under.
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Kdan
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$9k for a 450 Motard?! I'll take a Suzuki for less than $6k. They come with lights.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is this the answer to KTM/Polairis?

Dan, the price does include
Ohlins POS Fully Adjustable Shock
Ohlins 46mm Fully Adjustable Fork
Black Excel Wheels
Brembo Front Brake
Plus a few other things, the reason the Suzuki is so cheap is because the Suzuki is so cheap.
But, at the same time I agree with you, they're not going to sell as many as Suzuki.
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...and can be purchased at ATK Dealers and Select Harley-Davidson Dealers Nationwide...

will they be servicing 'em too?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

holy crap! a 700cc two stroke?!
http://www.dirtrodders.com/atk700/

I'd pay a dollar just to hear the thing run : )
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P0p0k0pf
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

www.atkusa.com shows a dual sport kit on their main page...
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Typeone
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some more reading with some snippets about Buell... very interesting dirty bike potential.

White Knight
Motorcycle man Frank White might someday save Harley-Davidson. First, he must save his own company.

Feature • June 29, 2006

http://www.slweekly.com/article.cfm/whiteknight

But for Wyckoff, the problem’s clear: “Harley-Davidson desperately needs an entry-level dirt bike.”

Motorbike manufacturer Buell, a subsidiary Harley bought in 1998, was supposed to help bring in younger riders with its Harley-engine bullet bikes. But that Harley engine is more of an albatross than a blessing, argue some. Today’s youthful riders don’t care about the old-fashioned 1950s engine Harley customers love. “My father bitched when they put in an electric start,” Wyckoff says. “He liked kick-starting it. When they put in a belt drive, he wanted to take it off and put the chain back on. Harley riders aren’t exactly progressive.”

“They’re looking cool,” White says about Harley riders cruising Salt Lake City’s streets, often displaying more than their fair share of gray ponytails. The noisy, wheeled thrones tell one and all: I’m a financial success, but I’m still a rebel.

But young, affluent riders in their 30s want something different, White says. They want speed and sleek lines while also standing out in the crowd—which means not buying mass-market Asian bikes. But what other choice is there?

ATK’s high performance off-road bikes, offer speed, durability and performance, White says. But he’s hardly flooding the market. And then there’s Buell, which most critics argue doesn’t have the right product for pulling young buyers into its showrooms. So they turn toward the Japanese.

For Zanca, the ideal solution would be Harley buying ATK, and the world-class technology it offers, and using it to expand Buell’s product range. “Buell dealers have been very patient, very enduring,” Zanca says, “but unless something comes along, I personally think they’re in jeopardy in the future.”

Given that Buell, while only a tiny percentage of Harley’s business, was seen as key to getting a new generation of young riders started up the ladder to the company’s hogs, the future of Harley, some argue, may well be overshadowed, too. “If Harley took a serious look at Frank, a deal could help strengthen its long-term financial health,” Zanca says.


(Message edited by typeone on September 19, 2006)
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Rhun
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As I recall many HD dealers embraced ATK several years ago and were displeased with poor handling, reliability and management.
Young riders want what super cross and extreme riders ride. That doesn't include ATK. Even the great KTM struggles in this arena. There are only 3 or four really fast riders and they are very expensive and happy where they are. Who cares who finished 4th or even second, for that matter.
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Citycrosser
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thansesxb9rs, you appear to be correct. ATK bought out the remaining Cannondale inventory. There are several articles out there on the web but none give much detail. The quad did look familiar to me, I interned for Cycra (aka Next World Design) who designed the body work for both the Cannondale quad and dirt bike. It is neat to see body parts I worked on still in production somewhere though.
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just remember if anyone buys one of these to never leave the sight of your vehicle if they are left over Cannondale's. There is a reason they only lasted a few years in the market. It is one thing to try and start up a new company but the product better be good or well your assets will be purchased. Cannondale did use some really good components but they never could get the motor to be reliable, the price wasn't bad because they had to discount them and then went bankrupt.
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Rokoneer
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ATK has successfully corrected the problems that plagued the original Cannondales

As a matter of fact if you were to have a Cannondale and want it 'corrected' to bulletproof status you can send it to ATK and they'll make it good.
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