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Drfuyutsuki
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:13 am: | 
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Steve Irwin had such an impact on so many people from all around the world, he will be missed.
There have been a handfull of recorded deaths (17 if I remeber right) from stingrays in the last 50 years, its sad that Steve will be added to that list. He went doing what he loved, which is all anyone can ask short of in their sleep.
We wish the best for his family, friends and all those who were touched by his life.
Rest in peace Steve, your work will go on.
Josh and Kitty Hjelmberg |
12r
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:38 am: |
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Steve Irwin not killed by sting ray...
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Greenlantern
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 08:18 am: |
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Steve died doing what he loved and gave his life purpose.It had it's risks, was outside the "norm"and considered reckless by a lot of people.Sound familiar?!? I am always saddened by loss of life regardless of who/why but as a motorcyclist I really can relate to a person like Mr. Irwin who did what he did because he wanted to and not because it was the "correct" thing or the safe thing to do. The fact that he also educated millions in the process is just icing on the humanitarian cake. RIP Mr. Irwin and Thank You. |
Debueller
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 11:50 am: |
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He was somewhat of a daredevil. (like Knevil and others)
I love watching those type of entertainers.
Beats being killed climbing out of the shower. Or some stupid auto accident like Jim Pomeroy.
What a sad loss. |
Concor
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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Wow such anger from some of you, relax youll all live longer. Sorry blake that my opionion is petty and judgemental to you from now on ill agree with you. Also none of you should be comparing riding a motorcycle to swimming with crocs[yeah i know theres a metaphor there somewhere]theres risks u accept in life and others are simply crazy.If someone throws a squid video up here with someone wiping out i dont here"well he was doing what he loved"no instead its what a jaka$$ he could have got himself or somebody else killed.Oh and my comments were not to incite others Blake started that when he called some of us callous jackasse$$ Of course he did great things and the wealth of knowledge that he has provided is incredible, i just feel that his passion might have blinded him to what should have been his biggest focus, his family.Thats wonderful thats what he loved doing but where does that leave them? |
Greenlantern
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 01:23 pm: |
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Well, everybody's got to have a job or contribute to society in some way (I know...wishful thinking....SIGH)but my comparison to motorcycling was just a statement and not a reaction for any who thought it otherwise.BEEuTTT,for my reaction (calmly typed I might add) to
"i just feel that his passion might have blinded him to what should have been his biggest focus, his family.Thats wonderful thats what he loved doing but where does that leave them?"
Firefighters, Police Officers, Military,EMS..and so on are generally family people who basically do reckless things for a living.We rightfully celebrate these folks as heroes because we can see the immediate impact their actions have in our lives.I can understand it's a bit tougher to see that with a guy who rescues animals to raise public awareness but is just as important in the scheme of things as any other of life's callings.Just my thoughts,Thanks for listening (or is that reading?)Now, where's my Ritalin??? |
Luvthemtorts
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 01:50 pm: |
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As I eluded to above, oftentimes the situation was not as dangerous as it appeared. Camera angles, cooling, knowing the animal and its' abilities and having ready access to the proper serums in reality made the "encounters" much safer than one might be led to believe. Point being he knew how to work his audience and how to keep them interested. Unfortunately in this day and age it typically takes more than a simple presentation and explanation of the animal to keep the audience enthralled. A prime example would be Mark O'Shea. He is a VERY serious herpetologist and has authored several articles and books furthering the study of Reptiles and Amphibians. His show on Animal Planet bombed because instead of using exciting antics he presented the facts in a rather blunt, mundane manner.
What I am getting at is the general viewing public demands that the "danger" level appear high. Mr. Irwin understood this and used it to his advantage in furthering the interest of an oft misunderstood group of animals. |
Southern Marine
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 02:12 pm: |
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Steve Irwin will be greatly missed. His death was EXTREMELY rare. The experts can't even agree. They differ and think there have been anywhere from 3 - 17 recorded deaths, EVER, by Stingray. I believe they said the last one recorded in Australia was like in 1946.
This is a man who brought about a change to our world, how we look at wildlife. I remember as a kid watching Mutual of Omaha. I loved that show, but since then there wasn't much to interest me in wildlife shows. After seeing his show, I thought WOW, this guy has a way with bringing a message across to the public.
The man was EXTREME, in many ways, and I applaud his life, the way he lived it. May he rest in peace, may his legacy live on, and may his family find some peace and comfort in knowing that he, his life, touched millions, not just by what he did, but how he portrayed himself, how he talked about the love he had for his family. God Bless Steve Irwin and his family. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:40 pm: |
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If I recall correctly, Steve never did suffer any envenomation by any snake, which is just plain incredible. Steve Irwin knew exactly what he was doing around crocks and snakes and other dangerous reptiles. The perceived risk presented in the television shows was not always as risky as the audience might have thought. |
Pilot
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 05:59 am: |
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quote:Sorry but i have little sympathy for him. People who put themselves in dangerous situations and then get killed should not be looked upon as tragic figures. I appreciate it was what he "loved" but i would assume his children loved him as well and now they have no father. He had greater responsibilities once he started a family.
Concor you and Germaine Greer can go and get in the FAR QUEUE.
(Message edited by Blake on September 07, 2006) |
CJXB
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 09:33 am: |
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And if God forbid one day you get killed on a m/c folks probably won't have a lot of sympathy for you either, I mean you KNOW riding m/c's is dangerous.
BUT, they might feel sad at your departure and feel a loss and have some sympathy for those you left behind !!
RIP Steve Irwin !!  |
Spreadem
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 10:01 am: |
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Sorry but i have little sympathy for him. People who put themselves in dangerous situations and then get killed should not be looked upon as tragic figures. I appreciate it was what he "loved" but i would assume his children loved him as well and now they have no father. He had greater responsibilities once he started a family.
I think you need to clarify your thoughts and reasoning. Running into the burning WTC towers was dangerous, so is pursuing a felon who just killed two children and then getting shot at. What about all the soldiers in Iraq? These people all have families too. All very tragic, all dangerous.
Although his work was not in the same category as those listed above, his work was no less important. Steve Irwin's dedication to educating the world about animals, their plights and their danger, helped advance knowledge worldwide about these unique creatures, and probably saved a few lives or too along the way as well. His contibutions to society can not be calculated and are far greater than what me or you will probably do in our lifetime. He was DEVOTED to his work and his research. Not everything he did was what you saw on TV. You should have sympathy for him, because he was a good, respectable person. I'm sure that his children will grow up to respect and love him for his sacrifice, the same as any others who lose their parents under TRAGIC circumstances.
(Message edited by spreadem on September 06, 2006) |
Brucelee
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 10:32 am: |
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Pilot,
Thanks for the F'n lecture. We all need this at a time of loss.
If you are actually a Pilot, gee, I hope you don't actually fly the plane or for that matter, ride a MC.
Twerp! |
Skyguy
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 11:51 am: |
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Watching Steve Irwin was fun. He made a show out of nothing and it not only lasted it took all the ratings for the genre. Of the risks he took many were percieved to be more dangerous than they were. Ever wonder how he always conveniently found a black mamba?
Cool dude. Kids loved him and he affected many many lives in a most positive way.
R.I.P |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 03:34 pm: |
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Brucester, Ross was quoting Concor's earlier post, not agreeing with his sentiment.
I think you just trod in the shit!
If memory serves, Ross is in the funeral business. He's a fellow Australian to Steve Irwin, and I'm sure he's pretty upset about Steve Irwin's tragic death.
Rocket |
Brucelee
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 04:59 pm: |
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Must have misread the post.
Sorry! This death has obviously upset me. |
CJXB
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 05:59 pm: |
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risks u accept in life and others are simply crazy.
He was raised in that environment, knowledgeable, familiar and comfortable doing what he did !!
If I, you or the average joe were to try and wrestle/handle alligators, snakes etc sure it'd be crazy, but not Steve Irwin.
Don't forget like others pointed out this was a "Freak" occurence !! The odds of one striking him in the heart was insignificant !!
My brother and his wife were on vacation and got to snorkle with and pet the stingrays, they have them in zoo's you can pet as well. Stingrays are NOT perceived as dangerous animals !!
It was just his time to go, it's sad !!
CJ  |
CJXB
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 06:01 pm: |
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PS Anyone riding a m/c can also die in a "freakish" accident, do any of you want others to perceive you as foolish and undeserving of sympathy because of their perception of m/c riding as dangerous !!
Freak accidents happen, no one is to blame for them !! |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 07:29 pm: |
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No harm done Bruce. I thought that was the case, which is why I pointed it out. See how I look after you, lol.
I spoke with my mum today. She's upset too. Seems Steve touched upon many people.
Rocket |
Blake
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 04:29 am: |
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I fixed Ross' post by putting the quoted text in the quote box. 
Bruce,
The "Edit Post" feature can be handy in these type situations. Regardless, it is never acceptable to wage personal insult/attack here. How many time I gotta remind you of that amigo? Please, no more of that. |
Pilot
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 06:20 am: |
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Thanks Blake,
I am still in shock about Steve.
Thanks Rocket,
You are correct on all accounts and as an aside Steve used to catch crocs just 3/4 hour up river from where I live.
It just sucks big time to lose him. |
Brucelee
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 10:08 am: |
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BTW-
I was snorkling on vacation once. Sting rays all around us. The folks who rented us the gear never even told us to stay away from the rays. We were chasing them as a game.
How dumb is that??????? |
Marhaba
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 02:19 pm: |
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Bruce, no one told you to stay away from the stingrays because they aren't terribly dangerous animals. Like josh said, the last death from stingrays was in 1946. You weren't in too much danger from them. Little kids go pet them and still do. Unfortunately, these animals are going to get a bad rap from now on because of this. It's terribly sad that he died, but sad also is the fact that his death will be defeating part of the mission he had in life, which was educating people about animals. Now because of a lot of hype, they'll go back to being misundestood and feared critters. |
Freeflyer
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 06:34 pm: |
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Concor you said " People who put themselves in dangerous situations and then get killed should not be looked upon as tragic figures." HE is not a tragic figure, his death was tragic as he was loved by millions of people and died an early and unnatural death. I dont think a parent is reckless if they go scuba diving, or ride a motorcycle, or go for a hot air ballon ride. Steve knew what he was doing and being a father Im sure he did not take risks ignorantly as you imply. SWIMMING WITH CROCS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS DEATH, NEITHER DID RISK TAKING AS EVERYONE HAS AGREED IT WAS A FREAK EVENT.NOT THE OUTCOME OF A DANGEROUS SITUATION LIKE YOU SAY. If you read your own first post, it appears you are the one with some negative/nasty feelings. Total lack of compassion. But hey, just never admit a mistake |
Eboos
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 06:57 pm: |
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Surfers aren't too stoked on stingrays. Danger is a matter of perception. What we all do (ride motorcycles) is perceived as dangerous by some, but to us, it is a calculated and managed risk. Do we all deserve to get hit by cars now? |
Slaughter
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 07:48 pm: |
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I've done the dive at Stingray City. They're docile creatures though out where they're vulnerable to being shark food, they are more wary.
For a good vid on the Stingray City experience check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzapZsmEGys |
Kandie
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 08:29 pm: |
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I have been to Stingray City too. It was fun and I wasn't afraid at all. I was able to touch them and feed them squid. I would love to do it again someday. |
Sokota
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 02:14 am: |
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what a unique creature , hard to believe that tail becomes a lethal weapon , it must crack it like a whip........?! RIP Steve ,"the good die young" , you were one of the best.
(Message edited by sokota on September 08, 2006) |
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