| Author | Message | ||
     Jscott |
Pic and a video of their new Z-Line 4 engine firing for the first time. http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=news_view&art_id=66&p_id=223&return_path= home | ||
| Ctyxrnr |
WOW!!!!!!! i want one. if i had $100k laying around. | ||
| Pwnzor |
MotoCzysz has completed the design of their new engine- a culmination of the technologies and ideas explored with the first prototype, in a never before scene configuration called the Z-Line 4. Shouldn't somebody be checking press releases for grammar and spelling? I'm sorry, but if they can't pay attention to detail, how can I trust that engine? And another thing, what was I supposed to see in that video? I wish them luck, they'll need it. (Message edited by pwnzor on August 26, 2006) | ||
| Spiderman |
I doubt the website designers/creators are the same people that designed/built that motor... | ||
| Blake |
Cool looking and sounding engine. The idea of eliminating flywheel gyro effect on the bike's handling is intriguing. When do we get to see the dyno testing results? Strange video for sure. Don't get me wrong; I'm a friendly huggy kinda guy, but all that man-hugging and the lyrical "the brother's gonna work it out" playing in the background is, well, kinda, gay. Not a single lady to be seen. Hmmmm, that does not bode well for the success of any project. Right Michelle, Pammy, CJ, Dora, Kandie, Lady_asb...? ![: ]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) | ||
| Skyguy |
That bike is drop dead special. I would love to be able to afford to crash it. It is really neat to see a totally new engine design also. Blake, be patient. I am sure that with the price tag of that ride there will be no shortage of women around it. You just got to be the first to get one so the license plate can say JST100k. | ||
| Oldog |
you mean some fool would street ride a bike that cost as much as a small house! the inter net poo said +200 hp from 99x cc that is about 3 hp per cuin  pammys x1 160 hp 75+ cuin thats ~2.1 it the busas make in that range but more inches, again It either breathes like no ones business or the whizbang motor is the subject of some bovine excrement. I wanna see the dyno sheet and the 1000 hour run even the 500 hr run not like I have 100k to pony up, though | ||
| Buellgirlie |
here's the girls  you gotta join the club first! http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=club D | ||
| Sweatmark |
No need to worry about male bonding in the dyno room. The engine development efforts and investments must have warranted a hug or two. Plus, that Czysz guy attracts women like Crazysz... my wife was drooling over MC last year during trackday at PIR: she had no idea at the time who he was, other than some "really hot guy in leathers"! The Motoczysz van with MC's trackday MV Agusta F4 parked next to my humble ghetto trackday Buell pit; I rode my bike to the track, my wife brought the gas can and Gatorade cooler. One of MC's associates was a cool UKer that struck up a conversation about my XB. Czyzs was an instructor for the Intermediate/Advanced group. Folks at the track said he's a good guy. Criticize the Motoczysz efforts all you want; I'm inspired by a biker that's using his resources to further America's position in the global moto-tech-biz race. Doesn't hurt that he's a home town hero too: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=pict&file =177449.jpg | ||
| Blake |
Jimi, Where ya been amigo? The Superbikes are topping out at around 240 rwhp. Anyone who questions this is welcome to try to get a motorcycle well past 200 mph on a road coarse, which is what the top superbikes have been able to do for years now. There be lots of HP in them thar racing engines. Then again, it ain't all about HP on many tracks, so a superior handling machine will be a huge asset. If MC has the real F1 engine expertise reported, then that engine will be putting out a lot more than 200 HP. When do you reckon we can expect to see one on the track racing at a national event? | ||
| Crusty |
When do you reckon we can expect to see one on the track racing at a national event? Right after the Hendersons, Indians and Heskeths (don't want to forget our British compatriots) win AMA and WSB championships. | ||
| Grndskpr |
The Superbikes are topping out at around 240 rwhp. I would love to see some proof of that, i fid it hard to belive thats even close to true, moto GP fine, but superbikes R | ||
| Blake |
Find me the top WSBK trap speeds and I bet I can convince you, almost anyway. | ||
| Blake |
Dora, Dont' ya love the way some folks continually promise you the world on a silver platter prior to having anything meaningful to deliver?
Hey, I'm all for promoting motorcycling in America. So I signed up!
Yawn...  Talk is soooooo cheap. | ||
| Blake |
Roger, Here's one data point for you. Plain old 600cc AMA Supersport machines are putting down 125 rwhp or more. If you doubt that please see the science shannel documentary Speed On Two Wheels where they show up close and personal, clear as daylight, the 125 RWHP dyno results for Tommy Hayden's Supersport Kawasaki ZX6RR. Simply factor that by 1000cc/600cc and you have 208 rwhp for a Superstock literbike. Is it really that much of a stretch to imagine that the extra modifications allowed superbike engines wouldn't produce another 15% power? Of course they would. The trap speeds at the faster tracks in Europe also support the 240 rwhp. On a closed course road circuit, you aren't going to break 200+ mph on a superbike with much shy of 240 RWHP. | ||
| Blake |
If it takes 105 rwhp to do 155 mph, then the cube of speed HP rule (laws of physics) dictates that it will take 242 rwhp to do 205 mph. Until you try to achieve such high velocities on a motorcycle, it is difficult to fathom the power requirements. I agree, it is tough to imagine, but the laws of physics don't suffer us fools. | ||
| Blake |
Consider too that the WSBK racing machines are likely no where near their terminal velocity on the road circuits. They likely have not much more than a half mile to achieve peak speed through acceleration from a relatively low speed. In other words, on a long land speed record course, they could likely achieve significantly higher speeds. That make sense? I think so. | ||
| Steve_a |
"Consider too that the WSBK racing machines are likely no where near their terminal velocity on the road circuits. They likely have not much more than a half mile to achieve peak speed through acceleration from a relatively low speed. In other words, on a long land speed record course, they could likely achieve significantly higher speeds. That make sense? I think so" Yep. I still want to get an XBRR on a 2-mile run. I predict over 300 kph. | ||
| Blake |
It would be very nice to best the world's fastest 1000cc production record just set by an MV Augusta F4-1000 factory supported effort at just 299.148 KPH. We all dare you. We double dog dare you! | ||
| Midknyte |
you mean some fool would street ride a bike that cost as much as a small house! What's the difference between that and driving a car that costs as much as 3 or 4 small houses? | ||
| Bigdaddy |
"Yep. I still want to get an XBRR on a 2-mile run. I predict over 300 kph." Just box one up and send it out to FMJ -- he's going to the salt anyway and I bet he'd shake it down for you You've been triple dog dared ATT. G2 | ||
| Firemanjim |
Happy to oblige,can you have it in Bonneville for tech inspection next sunday?That is the start of the Bub's event, we will be there!!! And we spit on your paltry 240 HP(or at least Snail does with his 340 HP turbo Gix). | ||
| Crashm1 |
340hp turboGix ---------Eeeeeek! } | ||
| Jimidan |
Midknyght sez: "you mean some fool would street ride a bike that cost as much as a small house! What's the difference between that and driving a car that costs as much as 3 or 4 small houses?" And those guys don't live in small houses...their servants do. jimidan | ||
| Buellgirlie |
so, blake - did those girls show up to your house, now that you're a MEMBER? D | ||
| Bigdaddy |
Oh no! I signed up to Dora,,,,,I gotta cancel. If them chicks show up at my house my wife will never believe anything I say -- I have some bad history. Oh goodness,,,, G2 | ||
| Court |
>>>>>Hey, I'm all for promoting motorcycling in America. So I signed up! I joined in the very beginning, when I was being called a detractor for doubting they'd actually have a motorcycle for sale in the near future. So far all I have to show for it is a cool hat. I can make that XBRR vs. Bonneville Salt Flats thing happen if anybody really gets serious about it. | ||
| Blake |
Not yet D. If they do, I'm blaming it on Greg. Court, You got a hat? Hey, I actually laid hands upon the prototype and then witnessed it parade around the track at Laguna Seca last year. At this point, I think you have me beat. | ||
| Bigdaddy |
Well I don't have a hat or naked chicks. I'm feeling like a loser here. G2 | ||
| José_quiñones |
240 HP Superbikes? AMA Superbikes are at 215 HP, according to Mat Mladin, who should know. The last time an AMA and WBSK bikes were at the same track was in last winter when both Mladin and Troy Corser lapped Phillip Island on their Factory AMA/WSBK GSXR-1000's. Mladin was faster, with "only" 215 HP. Don't believe him? Ok open up your August 2006 issue of Road Racing world, page 111, middle column, near the bottom. Claudio Domenicali, CEO of Ducati Corse (the factory race shop), talking about why they want 1200cc VTwins for Superbike racing.
So Mat Mladin and Claudio Domenicali both confirm the 215 HP number. I'm sure Blake will come up with some mathematical masturbation to show otherwise, but I'll take Mladin's word on the subject. |
