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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would like to be able to check my work email from my home location without my employeer knowing where excatly I am at..

I normally login in to my work email like this

mail.companyname.com via any internet access.

Basically I don't need them knowing or being able to locate my IP address or real location.

Possible?
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where will you be coming from?
What interface is it? Outlook Web Access?

You could:
Use a randomizer to disguise where you are coming from. This will require installing a piece on the machine you are using. Employer will "know" you are using a randomizer service.

Find a 3rd party email service that will retrieve your email for you. Easiest if your company allows POP3 or IMAP email retrieval. There are several pay sites incl Yahoo that will pull email from multiple places so you can read it from their site. Even Citibank's consolidation utility ("MyCiti") used to do it, don't know if they still do.

Leave your PC on at work with forwarding setup in your email client.

I'll keep thinking.
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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

outlook web access, I think

I simply use internet explorer. address is mail.companyname.com

click yes on the security pop up

Then I type in
user.name@bobscorp.com next box below is for the password.


thanks for the tips.

Would they actually have to research this email to find out all of the login in location IP address? If thats the case I can simply try a wifi location.

I often check my email when on "work trips" at many different locations, and via many different computers.
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Cereal
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go through a proxy server. Anonymizer offers this service (www.anonymizer.com) and it's legal. You could also just google 'proxy servers' and you may find one for free.

Be careful with this stuff though. You are entering the dark side of the net.

Most employers won't allow message forwarding from an enterprise system, and its probably not a good idea to mess with your work computer if you value your job. Disguising your IP is one thing, hacking is another.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can route through a proxy server in Cuba.
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Spreadem
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Proxy, proxy, proxy.....
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Spectrum
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Curious why you want your location anonymous. They know its you and the know its coming from the internet. Why would where your at on the internet matter? Are you being a bad boy?
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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not trying to change or tinker with stuff on the work computer. Just want to check my email from a remote and unknown location.

As if I called in sick but was really riding the bike on a weekend trip.
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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Even at work I log into my email via the internet. In fact i allway use the net to check my work email.

Lot of my work is done at home or at an temp work site. Very very little is done at the real location.
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>not trying to change or tinker with stuff on the work computer. Just want to check my email from a remote and unknown location.

What about home?
You could easily remote-control your home machine and check from there. Get a dynamic DNS service (I can set you up if need be) and a copy of VNC and voila.

>Even at work I log into my email via the internet. In fact i allway use the net to check my work email.

Unless email is hosted at a remote location from your office and there is no VPN/private line, you are not accessing email from your office over the Internet. via a webbrowser, sure, but it should all be local to you. just FYI
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Jlnance
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wes - There are a zillion ways to do this, and what is the best depends on a lot of things. Do you live near glitch? He knows a lot about this stuff.

Anyway, here is what I do.

I have a linux machine in my house that runs all the time. I can use ssh to to connect to the linux machine from just about anywhere. I also run a proxy server called squid on this machine, which allows it to fetch web pages for me.

On my laptop, which runs windows, I have installed the putty ssh client. I use this to log into the machine at home, and simultaneously to forward the squid port on the laptop to the squid port on the linux machine. (thats port 23118 for example purposes) Then I set the laptop's webbrowser to use localhost:23118 as a proxy server. And viola, all my web activities appear to come from the linux machine in my living room, regardless of where I am.

Another plus of this arrangement is that ssh encrypts the network connection, so no one can watch the traffic between your laptop and your home machine.

If you've never done any of this before, I know that all sounds complex. But it's really quite simple to set up. PM me if you would like to try and find yourself needing help.
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Jlnance
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Alternately, if you don't want to set up a linux machine in your home, you can get an account on http://freeshell.org/ and run a proxy server over there. As you might have guessed from the name, these accounts are free. However, to use port forwarding on their servers, you would need to become a metaarpa member, which costs $36/year.

Of course then all your traffic appears to come from their site. But it does hide your real location.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Three letters, VPN.
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The_new_guy
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know exactly how it works but I use mail2web.com to check my e-mail account(outlook) from remote locations.

Gregg
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Spectrum
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pwnzor, VPN would not obscure the IP address. It would just encrypt the data.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Perhaps you misunderstood the intended application.

Leave a PC running VPN in your house.

Use a laptop or other device from elsewhere to access your PC at home.

Run your mail browser from within that window.

They will see you logged in from your home IP.
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You'll still need a remote-control application, such as VNC. While I in fact do use VPN+VNC for my connection home, I usually just recommend VNC. No need to encrypt remote-control traffic and VNC now encrypts the password when you logon.

Edit: You'll also need the IP address of your home connection, thus the Dynamic DNS client. You'll also need to configure your home router/firewall (if any) for any of these options to work.

(Message edited by josh_ on August 24, 2006)
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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

amazing at the info you can get from a bike chate board!

thanks for the help guys.

I will use an IP address masker. This should be good enough. I highly doubt that anybody at the company will be spending there time to research my email account.. but just in case I'll use the anonymizer
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

VPN gives you full control over the remote PC. You do not need any other software. I run full-screen 3D games and mail browsers in the same VPN screen.

I don't care, do it how ya want, there are a lot of different ways. If you're hiding from your employer, chances are you're on your way out the door anyway.

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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

anonymizer did not work.

I am unable to get access to the email web site.

Error: Access is Denied.
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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got it figured out. thanks guys!
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

VPN (Virtual Private Network) is just a secure connection across a public network.

a virtual network cable to the remote termination point
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...and anyone who doesn't naturally know that will only be able to use it through a client, such as NetMeeting which is included with Windows. So I suppose I should have said NetMeeting instead, but around these parts (my IT department) we all just say VPN and we know what we're talking about.
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Spectrum
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ah Pwnzor your talking about some remote control software. To those of us in the IT industry VPN means Virtual Private Network. Which creates a secure encrypted network between to remote end points. VPN is really just a network connection using point-point tunneling protocol and doesn't provide any functionality other than the secure communications.

Anyway I digress, and I did miss understand you meaning.
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Cereal
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a thought Ryker, if you don't want your work to know that you are checking your email from the road vs home, than you need to spoof your home IP from the road. A proxy won't look like home, it just won't resolve to your actual location. So if your being truthful about your reason for wanting to do this, than a proxy would be defeating the purpose.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks I really needed to have the acronym VPN explained to me.

Everybody's a professor.
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>VPN explained to me.

Twice no less! ;)

Hey Ryker, glad you asked yet?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Honesty is almost always the best policy.
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Captpete
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that like almost being a virgin?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"...Dad, I'm sort of pregnant"
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