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Paw
| Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 07:16 pm: |
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Your riding on the highway at 75 MPH you look in you mirror to over take a car you check the mirror and you turn your head for the blind spot and after seeing all is clear you pass the car and your getting ready to merge back into the center lane, at that point a state cop blows past you at about 130 MPH with his cruiser half in your lane and half on the shoulder. And after the dangerous over take of you he pulls over a car for speeding a 1/4 mile down the highway? This happened to me on my way home from work it really pissed me off to see a cop do such a lame brain move just to pull over a car for speeding. What if i had to make a sudden move to the left? I would be hamburger right now just for a stupid speeding ticket. Is the state of NY really that hard up for money? |
Mikexlr650
| Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 07:27 pm: |
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ny must be that hard up! they're charging me 15g's taxes on my 1600sqft house. yes, i realize it's not actually the state doing this but the area is way overtaxed in general. sounds like the trooper had a "target fixation" problem. probably never even thought about you, was totally focused on catching his prey. |
Newfie_buell
| Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 07:35 pm: |
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You mean $15,000.00 in property taxes???!!! Holy Crap, I thought $1,200 Canadian was bad. The town where my summer home is has NO PROPERTY TAX.......Cool Hey. |
Pupu
| Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 08:17 pm: |
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i get that alot from other cars. i am always checking my mirrors. then all of the sudden a car will blow by me that was not there a couple of seconds ago. sometimes i worry thinking what would have happened if i was gonna change a lane at that time. |
Paw
| Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 09:34 pm: |
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Not that it will do any good i just got done emailing the NY state police about what happen. I gave them a detail description of how, when and where the pass happened and gave a description of the car he pulled over and the type of cruiser he was in. I'm sure nothing will come of it but it was eating me up inside so i had to speak my mind to them. |
Paint_shaker
| Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 09:57 pm: |
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I am much more concerned with old folks, teen drivers and those that are "multi-tasking" while they are driving than the police... Just my 1.5 cent... |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 11:41 pm: |
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If the "dings" add up in the cops record he will be passed over for promotions etc. It can make a difference. it's just not an instant gratification kind of thing. |
Paw
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 06:57 am: |
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Paint_shaker Your 1.5 cents makes perfect cents to me and i agree except for that you are not as concerned about how the police drive. The cop that pass me showed total disregard for the safety of the public. For him to passed me the way he did was uncalled for. He is not setting a good example. I could say the pass would be called for, if he was chasing a felon. But for a speeding ticket and putting the public safety second, "MY SAFETY SECOND" is uncalled for. |
Paw
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 07:03 am: |
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Damn that is when i needed a camera mounted to my bike. Looks like i might have to start doing that for the short trips for evidence if anything would happen i got the proof.That is if i'm alive to show it. |
Hammer71
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 07:24 am: |
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Did you stop and ask if he stopped him for speeding? You assume it was for speeding and it may very well have been but you also have to realize that the vehicle may have come back with a NYSPIN hit for a wide range of things that you or I dont know about. I'm not a big fan of NYSP.. too many rookie cops out there trying to make a name for themselves. |
Oldog
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 08:58 am: |
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Paw: while back a young woman was filming while riding and some jack A$$ spun his honda in front of her demolishing her bike and injuring her, She got the event and the tool trying to 'splain away that it was not his fault me I hope that she owns that tool and his insurer, the footage is convincing, and totaly impartial. I agree with you having a camera rolling would be nice for when the unthinkable happens. I have considered doing the camera on helmet and a hardened recorder in my gear on a 1 hour loop, yeah you cell talking, makeup applying, smoking eating no driving types go and hit me, I will own you for sure. on the LEO, I feel you but what Hammer said.. |
Aeholton
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 09:17 am: |
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Since getting the that cheapy Oregon Scientific all-in-one camera, I ride everywhere with it. I can always delete the videos I take if they are uneventful. I also look at it as extra insurance...bad things only seem to happen when I don't have a camera with me. |
Paw
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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Hammer71 have you ever run up the Northway? I do every day to and from work. I would bet my ass it was for speeding i know exactly where they sit and look for their prey. I always run 70 or 75MPH and have passed a few cops at that speed they have never once came after me but when i'm doing 75 and the car he had pulled over passed me at about 85 i would have to say i was for speeding it took him a while to catch up at the speed he was going i have a felling he was sitting behind the tress just before exit 9. |
Hammer71
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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Yup.. have run the northway many times, and I'm not trying to discredit your thoughts here. true that it most likely was for speeding but we cant always assume. Not to long ago one of the newer State Troopers decided to chase a bike which was speeding. Long story short. Kid on bike crased and died. Goes to show that there are irresponsible people on both sides of the fence. From personal experience though you will never get anywhere by pitching a bitch or filing a complaint with the NYSP too much attitude and god complex running around. |
Mikexlr650
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 02:01 pm: |
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rich, up for bear mtn tonight. just got in from mixing cement on a job. hot enough that the cement got "weird", had to keep it in the shade. never seen this happen before, of course i've never worked down south, damn yankee's. |
Pwnzor
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 03:40 pm: |
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While I agree with Paw in principal, if indeed the subject was only speeding, then I don't believe the officer should have pursued him like that. However, I agree with Hammer71 also, that we can't be sure why he was pursuing the subject. Assumptions hurt more than they help. On the other hand, I also don't believe that the officer actually intended to endanger anyone, he is a person who can get carried away, have bad days, brain fart, or what have you. But by your own description, you were merging back to the center lane, and he passed on your left, half into the shoulder. I don't think you were in any danger, my opinion is that you got startled and it pissed you off real good. And you're not wrong to be upset about it at all. He could still have pulled that speeder over without overtaking you in that fashion.
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Swampy
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 05:04 pm: |
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See the movie "V Is For Vandetta" COMPLAIN LOUDLY! Get the car number, and officer name. Start at the Governors office then work your way down. Works every time. |
Jpdog
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 08:34 pm: |
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With all due respect, how do you know the reason the car was pulled over. Maybe it was for speeding, or stolen vehicle, or fitting the description of a vehicle used in a violent crime or worse. I agree the move was dangerous, but LEO`s but alot at risk on a daily basis for very little reward adn pay. I think they deserve better than your random acusations. And no i`m not a LEO. |
Zxzer04
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 10:36 pm: |
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And no i`m not a LEO. thats not what your profile says... And I agree Police officers deserve respect, but they do not automatically get free reign to put other citizens at risk. Locally had a woman hit on a cross walk by an officer on a call. The city said it is not liable for her injuries. Now granted the officer may have not done anything wrong, but she was a pedestrian and he hit her with a car...seems somewhere there should be some limits. |
Paint_shaker
| Posted on Wednesday, August 02, 2006 - 11:26 pm: |
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Generally speaking old folks, teens and those that are multitasking while driving have NOT been trained to drive at high speeds. On the other hand, officers receive training in high speed driving, pursuit driving and evasive maneuvers. That is not to say that all officers are great drivers. If you feel that you were put in an unsafe situation, by all means file a complaint. |
Jpdog
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 12:37 am: |
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I had to retire after 911 from breathing problems. |
Indy_bueller
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 07:24 am: |
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If private corps can be held accountable for what thier employees do while they are on the job, why can't government entities? Sorry, but they should be held responsible. The governement should fear the people, not the other way around. |
Crusty
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 10:47 am: |
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The government should fear the people, not the other way around That's a nice ideal; however, reality is the converse of that statement. |
Paw
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 01:44 pm: |
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Jpdog, I would bet my life it was for speeding i watched the officer approach the car if it was stolen, in a violent crime etc. I believe the guy would have made a run for it. Don't you? But as the officer approached him the guy knew he was nabbed and pull over ASAP. So i sent my email to the NYSP. Because its freedom of speech to do so and it made me feel better to get it off my chest and speak my mind. If nothing comes of it at least i did not sit back and do nothing and wonder later if i should have. |
Paw
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 01:57 pm: |
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Pwnzor reread my post i did not state i was merging i said i was getting ready to merge that means looking it my mirror to see if i had the car cleared before i merged back. I was not merging when the cop passed me i was still in my lane getting ready to. i do not care what you guys say. It was uncalled for. He could have slowed down and he would never have lost the guy and if you say, maybe there was not enough time to slow down then the cop was going way to fast. There are not many cars out on the highway that can out run a police cruiser let alone the radio. If anything like this happens to you i do not want to see you post about it you will not have the right to say a damn thing about a cop passing you in an unsafe manner. |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 02:21 pm: |
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i'll say here wht i said in response to this same post on sacborg: You admit you were exceeding the NYS statewide speed limit by 10 mph before you decided you needed to pass soemone ahead of you.....you claim the trooper was travelling at 130 mph, which means your lane change was the equivelant of pulling into 55 mph traffic from a standstill. not only should you have seen him coming, or not executed the lane change, if your rear vision were so obstructed , but you should be relieved he didn't tag you with 'unsafe lane change' reckless driving', '75 in a 65 (or was it a 55?)' etc. i cannot believe you're now whining on two boards about this. holy hissy, batman.... |
Paw
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 02:28 pm: |
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Tramp listen up a$$hole. look at all the posts if you say you read on both sites I was going down a hill how can i see a car on the other side of the hill at the moment i look in my mirror. Sorry i do not have x-ray vision to see threw the hill to the other side where the officer is coming from. You are such a dumb ass you reply without reading in depth to the post on here. So once again you are wrong and have the facts mixed up. SCREW YOU. |
Hammer71
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 03:31 pm: |
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Your riding on the highway at 75 MPH you look in you mirror to over take a car you check the mirror and you turn your head for the blind spot and after seeing all is clear you pass the car and your getting ready to merge back into the center lane, at that point a state cop blows past you at about 130 MPH with his cruiser half in your lane and half on the shoulder. And after the dangerous over take of you he pulls over a car for speeding a 1/4 mile down the highway? No mention of a hill. Tramp called you on it and now your upset. You called, emailed or whatever your complaint to the NYSP let it be. Would Tramp still be an A hole if you were speaking in person?...I doubt it. |
Curtyd
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 05:31 pm: |
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Similar thing happened to me on the NJ Turnpike but we were all going the same direction. It was two Jersey Trooper cruisers going at least 100mph in the emergency lane under the overpasses where they narrow down real tight, just to write a few bikes for some non-chalant lane splitting during a traffic jam to keep their bikes from overheating and their clutch hands from cramping up. It's the "don't take cuts" syndrome from grammar school. People are willing to die and kill other folks over that sort of thing. (Message edited by CURTYD on August 03, 2006) |
Paw
| Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 09:06 pm: |
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No mention of a hill. Tramp called you on it and now your upset. You called, emailed or whatever your complaint to the NYSP let it be. Would Tramp still be an A hole if you were speaking in person?...I doubt it. I was talking about all the post on here and on sacborg check it out i do mention i was on a hill in one of my replies. and if he was talking to me face to face and got smart i would call him an A-hole no man scares me. I can dish it out as well as take it. By words or however it is done!!! And yet another person posting before they check ALL of the posts. Quit typing till you know what ALL has been said. |