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Dfbutler
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do you react when someone in the car in front of you tosses a lit smoke out the window and it flies back toward you?
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Dbird29
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They are oblivious anyway so just keep moving on. They wouldn't understand any retaliation.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Catch it in my teeth, finish it, then spit it out...
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Cowboy
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Strange you should bring this up just this morning I had to dodge a damn coke bottle
I was going to run him down and give him a thumping till I seen it was a woman I just shook my head and rode on.
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Roadrailer
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I usually give smokers a wide berth, especially if they're at the end of a butt.
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Saintly
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Happens all the time to me.

Once I had one go right into my half unzipped jacket. I fished it out and at the next stoplight I pulled alongside the guy and tossed it through his window back at him.
I'm pretty sure it was still lit too. That felt real good!
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a guy throw a handfull of change at me the other day... Along with a water bottle and his rear bumper a few times... He kept pulling onto the shoulder at 80 to kick up Semi re-treads and debris and that sort of thing too.

I just stayed behind him until he was somewhat blocked in and then passed the entire procession on the right side on the shoulder and left...

Called the cops and they didn't catch him. I'd like to press charges mostly just to hear his explanation of how I may have provoked him (I don't believe I did) but the police agency I just talked to told me I should just let it go due to the fact that it's really just my word against his...

I do have a license plate of 731-BCN though... Tan silverado with AZ plates.

Time to get a CCW card.
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Bcordb3
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Time to get a CCW card.

I'm surprised you don't have one.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I generally just carry on a thigh rig.
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Skyguy
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I live in a very dry area. The last guy that tossed a butt out in front of me almost got his arse kicked. I pulled up and slowed him down then came up on his window and had a talk with him. I then sprinted ahead and found a Sheriff who caught the pinhead coming off the hill.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If it happens at a traffic light, I'll climb off, pick it up, and toss it back in their vehicle, lit or not. If it happens while moving I'll yell at them. The pinheads that throw butts out their windows here in California have destroyed a lot of houses and lives. The littering aspect of it is bad enough, but throwing out lit cigarette butts shows a complete lack of common sense. It drives me nuts.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I caught one once at my neckline, gave me a blister. I was riding my XT600 on the freeway and I couldn't catch the offender. It was super hot outside too, so I was super pissed off.
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Fullpower
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not enough spare real estate for a quad-50 mount on my XB, so I have taken the the obvious reduction-in-force expedient of a .45 on my left thigh. have not had occasion to deploy it in traffic, and with any luck I never will. But as the old bumper sticker usta say: if you run my ass over, you better back over me and make DAMN SURE i dont get back up.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Roll up along side of them to observe who the idiot was. Then switch over into there lane, now I would be in front of them. Reach in to my left pocket for that spare change I had leftover from the soda machine and toss it over my shoulder and listen to the nickels bouncing off the hood and windshield.



(JUST KIDDING)!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hate those tools.
Is it just me or are they suddenly much more common in the past year or so?

What happened to ashtrays???
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the filthy, stinking smoker doesn't want his car to smell like cigarettes. never mind the fact that it already does, and so does his house and all his clothes and underwear and shoes and towels and dishes and curtains and carpet and yada yada yada yada
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nate, fewer and fewer new cars have ash trays. (Not this is an excuse)

I would say the increase in irresponsible smokers is because of what part of the population still smokes. I know their must be some smokers here, and I do not intend to offend.
But a good majority those that still smoke today are inconsiderate in a large portion of their lives. Now that Seattle has the toughest anti smoking law in the country I have to see this all the time.

Ciggy butts all over the sidewalk. Hell my building had to remove these lovely planters from the sidewalk because people started to use them as an ashtray. It was so nice to see the colorful flowers drowned in butts. : (

I have figured that the car is the last place they can smoke with impunity. I can't wait until the fuzz actually in force existing litter laws.
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Seth
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 05:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This happened in an episode of C.H.I.Ps once.
Ponch had a cigarette butt that was flicked out a window land in his crotch and burn his pants.

He was pretty pissed too.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"This happened in an episode of C.H.I.Ps once..."

This is the most relevant and insightful observation I've read in weeks. Not just on this board, but in the general media altogether.
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow, I am a stinky,filthy smoker that is inconsiderate in a large portion of my life!
I must be at some lower level of the population too?
Wow.

Not offended in the least, just surprised.

Some day maybe we can talk about people that annoy me?
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PS,
I'm going to go have a smoke now.
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Matty
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Back when I used to smoke, I dropped (deadout) butts out my window all the time.
Until one day.
I'd just pulled into the parking lot at Mount Waterman for a half day of snowboarding and as I was grabbing my snowboard a guy walks up and inncocently asked, "Does your truck have an ashtray?"
"Yes... Why?"
"Maybe you should start using it. I saw you throw a cig out the window" and he walked away.
I was dumbstruck... I'd been the only vehicle on the road in the 27 miles from the bottom of the hill to the parking lot I was standing in.
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Ratyson
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had this happen to me on several occasions, I just chalk it up to inconcideration.
I keep a coke can with a bit of water in it in my car. I don't use my ashtray for anything but spare change. I put the butts in the can, then just trow it out when I get home.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been smoking a long time.



I do know how to keep my butts to myself though.
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know this NO SMOKING thing has gotten out of hand. We all know that smokeing is not healthymbut when you think of the men that have died for the right to smoke it is just silly We all know that Alcohol is the real killer and the home wrecher. but it is not put down haklf as hard. can you just think for a monent how it would sound whey your wife caught you messing around it you said but I would not have did it but I had been smokeing.be careful smoking but for damn sake leave them smokers alone. by the way I dont smoke.
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Mb182
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here Here Daves!!

A question for any radical non smokers out there:

How long do you think it will be before they start in on overweight people?

I smoke - cutting my life? yes, but it is My Life - get one of your own!!and get off my A%^^
As far as a drain on the economy - don't buy that crap.. You will spend far more on nursing home care than it will cost me to kick off early..

What they don't tell you is those years you are getting are added to the END of your life..

MB
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't smoke either but I have to say that I don't understand why every place is non-smoking now.

I always thought that smoking/non-smoking sections were quite sufficient for mutual enjoyment.
The part I REALLY can't get is why bars ar non-smoking now. No one goes in there that is less than 21 anyways.
All of the bars in my area have little retarded "patios" for the poor dejected smokers.
Once, I was with my friend at a bar and the whole place cleared out for a smoke break like it was work! This included the bar tender!
My friend and I were the only monkeys left inside. (winter)
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Freeflyer
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dont react although Id love to take a full ashtray and dump it in their car after they park it. As far as the smoking bans as an ex-smoker I love it, I shouldnt have to breath that shi$ in just cause I want to go bowling or to a theater, restaurant etc. In america we are not given the right to never be offended but we are also not given the right to physically harm others which smoking does.
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Buellzebub
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not to mention the fact that the cigarette butts can almost be classified as hazardous material...
i wonder what people would do if a fire department hazmat crew pulled up to dispose of their waste and then billed them accordingly.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"The best is yet to be. The last of life, for which the first was made"

I plan to age gracefully.
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell smokers just need to take off thier face shields they can force feed thier lungs
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Daves, I know what I said sounds a little harsh, but look at it this way.

By your profile you were born in '63.
There is a big difference between someone who started to smoke many many years ago (when it was considered acceptable), and now is having a difficult time quitting. And someone who is ~18 who decides to take up smoking. Those that take up smoking today are worse than the squids who ride without gear... YVMV

For those of you who still smoke, and have kids what do you tell your urchins? Go ahead and smoke?
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Jackbequick
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Smoking is a right, bad manners, littering, and general inconsideration of the others around you is not.

I smoked from 1959 until January 18, 1981. Then I quit, I don't miss it, it was the dumbest bad habit I ever had.

But when I was a smoker I never threw a cigarette butt on the ground. I rolled the cigarette behind the lit end until the lit end either fell on the ground or into some other safe place for it to either burn out or be extinguished.

When I smoked Camel straights the paper was stripped and went into a trash can or my pocket. When I smoked filters, the butts were stripped and the paper and filters went into a trash can or into my pocket.

Anyone that puts trash on the ground in any form is a rude piece of crap in my book. Look at the world around you and imagine it without cigarette filters. It would be nice.

Jack
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Smoking is a right, bad manners, littering, and general inconsideration of the others around you is not."

Well said, Jack.
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Crashcourse411
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Think of it this way if we all threw our butts out the window, the road ways would be edged with butts instead of those pesky weeds. We wouldn't have to pay those people to cut the ditches, and they will also blow off the road easier than all that gravel. Sort of like using chewed up tires for playgrounds, just not as flammable.
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Henrik
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spot on Jack!
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to confess that I smoked from the late 70s and have stopped and started in fits and starts, having an ocasional one even now.

I think that seprate facilities for smokers // non smokers is a great idea,
to each as they see fit,

Al I particulary(sp) liked the idea of throwing the butt back in the cagers window
it was apropriate (and amusing)

After watching the evening news and seeing the fires in CA, I wonder if it would help to ticket folks throwing butts out the window, because the danger is SO great

PPL are loosing their lives and property There, I have thrown my butts out of the window, after seeing that

never never NEVER again,
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Seth
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 03:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"...This is the most relevant and insightful observation I've read in weeks. Not just on this board, but in the general media altogether..."

Why yah gotta bust balls?
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