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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how bryan ferry

that's one of the problems with curing blindness... the cerebral translation would take much to develop...imagine crossing your eyes and getting two sets of info
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I shoot a gun left handed but am right eye dominant.
I shoot my bow right handed
I swing a bat right handed
I shoot pool left handed
I write left handed
I am so screwed up!

I do corner left better than right, but my rights are pretty good
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Dongalonga
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah I am just like Daves in that I am a lefty but do various activities with either hand. I guess it's ok to be screwed up!!
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Jerzydevil
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a discussion with someone at work abt this today. We decided that throttle control was the reason for being more comfy turning left than right. But I dunno after Tramps explination tho.
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Eboos
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I feel more comfortable with left turns. When I skateboarded, I was goofy footed (right foot forward and pushed with my left). When I rode BMX, again my right foot was forward with the cranks parallel. This made it naturally easy for me to turn left since I my body was oriented towards the left. To turn right, it felt like I had to turn more, and I was turning somewhat blind.

To understand what I mean, stand with your feet shoulder with apart. Now without moving your left foot turn to the left. That wasn't so hard was it. Now again keeping your left foot in place, turn to the right. That feels a bit odd since you are not able to see the direction that you are turning.

Now riding a motorcycle, the reasons may be different, but they may also be the same reason that one person may be goofy footed or regular footed.

I feel like I have more of a margin of error on a left turn since I won't run off into oncomming traffic. I hang off better on my left side. My right side, I feel more compact. When on a tight right turn, I don't really have good form.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A common test used for determining the dominant eye in shooters is to look at a target about 50 or so yards away with both eyes open. While still looking at the target, extend your arm with thumb up and bring your thumb into your line of sigh without closing either eye. Your thumb will be a somewhat blurred or a double image.

If you close your left eye and your thumb stays in your line of sight, you have a right dominant eye. Closing the right eye would have caused your thumb to jump out of line to the right.

If you close your right eye and your thumb is still over the target you have a left dominant eye. Closing the left eye would have caused your thumb to jump out of line to the left.

Jack
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jerzeydevil said:

"I had a discussion with someone at work abt this today. We decided that throttle control was the reason for being more comfy turning left than right. But I dunno after Tramps explination tho."

Diablo de jerzey: throttle control isn't the reason- it feels just as biased on an old Indian.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One theory of mine is that as you enter an uphill turn, inertia is keeping your suspension loaded and you are firmly planted through the turn. On a downhill turn entry inertia is trying to fly you off into space and it takes a slight bit longer to get planted. Hence the psycho-kabuki-weirded-out feeling.
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Jerzydevil
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know its not the reason, thats just an idea someone came up with. Ya push left ta go left, push right ta go right, puttin pressure on the throttle.

Didn't know the old Indians or anything else for that matter had the throttle anywhere else.

Oh, well, just a guess.


ElDiablo
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, whether you prefer right or left (or neither) you will still have an easier time with up-hill turns because of what Johnnylucnhbox said... The suspension is more loaded and more stable. The front won't get light as easily.

Eye dominance is a learned and correctable (balanceable) thing.
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1:

eye dominance is not a learned trait, nor is it correctable.

one can compnesate for it, but it cannot be reversed.

ever.
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Jerzeydevil: I don't push my bars much...try to teach yourself to steer without jamming your bars....a throttlemeister can be very helpful in this regard-
train yourself to initiate your turns by rolling your foot inward (ex.: on a right turn roll your left foot in) and then, moving upward, allow your knee to follow, etc. (short-radius and long radius turns indicate stopping at the hips or the knees) before 'jamming' with your hands.
I've employed this to train intermediate riders to become really, REALLY smooth.
also- try (as an exercise only) to employ as much centripetal inclination as possible in as slow a turn as you can, using lower body pressure as opposed to upper body jamming.
you will break through some riding plateaus if you just try it. i'm not espousing riding that way (i try to incline my scoot as little as possible), i'm recommending it as a reprogramming exercise.
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

....and if you attack (as an exercise) progressively tighter turns without your hands making bar contact, you'll increase your overall control dramatically
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