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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How long til we see these on this side of the pond?

http://blogs.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/06302006135457MWEFYW.htm



"It wasn't enough for the French authorities to place all these new digital and fully automated radars on the highways (there are about 1000 with 500 more coming). Now, they're experimenting with triple sets placed on a bridge (on the A7 autoroute Marseilles-Paris). This means no matter which lane you're in, you're going to get caught."
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Brineusaf
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Please... put your license plate below your tail and punch it.

We have the radar camera's scattered around here, but they are only the front cameras... which don't affect motorcycles, so I don't worry about them.

The French Authorities are retarded anyways...
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Sleez
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i was part of a program that installed some extremely high tech digital cameras and targeting software to nail speeders on the (northbound)freeway south of amsterdam, (near breukelen) three locations on all lanes, paid for itself in the first six months of operation. it was sure a fun two months though! didn't use radar, it calculated speed between cameras with ground loops! no way to easily defeat it (legally)!

(Message edited by sleez on June 30, 2006)
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not against speed limits, nor am I against enforcement.

I am against automated enforcement that lacks the human element of context, conditions, and leeway for a given situation.
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Sleez
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

here's the link to the system i installed;

http://www.peektraffic.nl/index.php?nodeid=271/
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Bake
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I beleive we had them outlawed in Canada, well BC and some other provinces.

(Message edited by bake on June 30, 2006)
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Ulendo
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bake - nope, I think they're still 'legal', just not common. they dont usually use the automated speed traps any more 'cause too many people were fighting the tickets...but here in kelowna we've still got active red light camera's, and a bunch of other gizmo's, including RCMP usage of video footage from the camera's on OK Lake floating bridge. ( public domain footage, so there's no way the police CAN be prevented from viewing it.)

they also do airborn speed traps out here, using roadside markings, and video camera footage to get 'time-to-distance' evidence. Tickets mailed to the registered owner.

I've been told - sources not nameable, so take it as a 'rumor' - that some of the new cruisers have a data link to speed sensors mounted alongside the red-light cameras...picture of plate, vehicle, and trap speed downloads to the officers several blocks away for issuing the ticket......
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Ted
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got photo'd here in B.C... never paid, with no repercussions. .
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Dbird29
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My brother is an attorney in Hays, Kansas and had a client fight an airborne speed trap ticket. Turns out the markings on the road were wrong and gave a higher speed than reality. They had written tickets based on those markings for years because nobody ever contested the ticket.
The client's ticket was dismissed but there were no retroactive refunds!
Another time he had an police officer admit that he issued tickets by counting against two signs, one thousand one, one thousand two, etc because the radar gun was broken.

I don't always believe the officers anymore.

DBird
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Jpdog
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In NYC there are radar guns already in place and working at many EZ pass toll booths. You know the booths where you can drive though at 25 or 55mph, depending on where they are located. If you go through at i think its 20 or 25mph than the posted speed it takes pics and revokes your ez-pass and fines you.
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Sparky
Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Sleez,

regarding ground loop detection of mostly aluminum motorcycles, e.g. XB9R's & such, I would think, hey, that's no problem. I have a hard enough time tripping signals here in the states! Talk about the "invisible motorcyclist"...

Sparky
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