| Author | Message | ||
     Henrik |
As for going all out on public roads; awhile back I had a similar conversation with some of the known suspects. The debate was whether going with a less capable bike would then in turn make slower speeds seem more "exciting" ... My take was, if you are going to do that sort of speed and that kind of riding, make sure you have the best tool possible for the job. That said, I'll second Peter. If you still have stock suspension (maybe new springs in the front), then it is my bet, that you'd feel a significant difference with upgraded and properly tuned suspension parts. Lots can be done to improve road holding while still allowing relatively "plush" suspension feel, not to mention what a bit of ride height tweaking front and rear will do for direction changes and line holding. Worth a shot if you decide to keep throwing $$ at the Buell  Henrik | ||
| CJXB |
What's this?! Oh I see...I am "kept" for my extraordinary good looks alone? Nah, it's your charm and personality as well as good looks !! Sheesh, guys have no tact !! Sell the bike Rocket, get one that makes you happy, life IS short, no one else's opinion should matter !! CJ  | ||
| Bomber |
Mike -- yessir, MY M2 no longer has stock forks (I shoulda been more clear) -- the stock M2 forks, while good units, have less adjustability than those found stock on the S1 | ||
| Rocketman |
Ken, I forgot to say earlier, you paid my S1W what can only be described as the ultimate compliment. Thanks for that. T'other Ken, I didn't say my S1W was dangerous, but thanks for your comments. Haha-haha Bomber. I would never want an M2. That would be a step backwards. I was referring to the rake of an M2 so as I could beat Blake about the head with the under steer theory of mine if there is a difference. Indeed there is as it turns out. Turns out? That's really under steer ain't it LOL.  Henrik, I have the race kit springs. You and Pete are no doubt right in what you say, and I'm absolutely in agreement with you both. I'm certain there's an improvement waiting to be explored, and I'll explore for sure. How much I'm willing to spend is the overall stumbling block. The more I spend is a penny less towards another bike though. Pammy darling, you know I wasn't referring to you. You're to good to let those good home boys loose on you. Besides, what would Wes say? Nah, that's some bird I heard of from Titwatch or some such telly program. Apparently, she handles like a Buell, as the above pic will testify LOL Rocket | ||
| Ducxl |
I'm surprised this thread still lives.. A Buell is a Super....Bike.But NOT a Superbike.I'm entertained listening to some investing many thousands of dollars and with exotic heads personally "worked" by So&so. The fact is,anything much over 110Hp is really starting to push the "reliability" factor.My Buells' suit me fine as i have reasonable expectations out of them..You think your Buell lets you down? Go buy a Yamaha R1 or Suzuki GSXR750 or 1000. I tell you, i'm thinking of adding one just to have an insanely overpowered motorcycle. What i'm saying is, instead of,uhh,wasting too much money on a bike that won't deliver superbike performance,just go buy one.They're cheap enough anyways.Far cheaper than the hassles of modifications. Oh yeah,i HAVE machined/assembled an XL stroker so i have "some" experience with this (Message edited by ducxl on April 19, 2006) | ||
| Hans |
Rocketman: Thanks for your commitment. All systems run well. I am busy to outlive the statistics: Am already in the very fine tail of the survival curve. However: I keep thinking that the many aftermarket components on your bike have broken the harmonic composition. Last Saturday I tried to start my bike after 8 ! months. A dreaded rapid click- click-click (metallic sound of steel to steel) After a night at the battery tender and loosening up the pistons by pushing the bike back and forth, somewhat, in 5th gear: Both cylinders fired at the second turn. The carburettor was emptied after the last run and the tank filled with BP Ultimate (which stays fresh for a long time) and three months ago also 24 hours at the battery tender. BUT.....it is still my first battery. Now I am trying to figure out, why your bike is eating batteries of the best brand. And what more: It seems me that you stay welcome at this board, when you sell your S1: You have earned for life the title "Buell enthusiast".  Hans | ||
| Rocketman |
Those raising silly comments about wasting money seeking performance. You're making the mistake of marrying the art of doing with the art of seeking. To clarify. I went looking for 100 rwhp when such things were in their infancy, and I got it. I enjoyed it too, and still am. A separate issue, whether related or not, was to modify my S1W into something I'd consider one of the worlds best. I have, at least as far as I'm concerned, got to or very near that goal. I'm more than happy with my lot thanks very much. I'm not, nor was I ever, trying to build a S1W to beat the Superbikes. There are more rewarding ways to beat Superbikes, which for me is what my S1W represents to me. It's already beating them standing still. What concerns me now is there are better handling, with much more power, sit up and beg style bikes to own. That is not a criticism of my Buell or any Buell for that matter. That said, the hard facts to consider are fairly simple. Let's face it, there are really only two. How much longer can I keep thrashing this lovely piece of machinery I've devoted time and lots of money to before it lets me down again because of how hard I am on her? Or how much longer can I rely upon this somewhat aged design to keep up with the Jones's before I throw it down the road trying? The reality for me is fairly simple. I want another bike to help lighten the load (burden) on my S1W. Perhaps then, I can continue to make my S1W more special than it already is without risking her or my future. One thing's for sure though. Whatever I buy next that has two wheels, it will not be anything so ordinary as an R1 or GSXR. Thanks very much but I don't want a motorcycle that everyone else has or can have, no matter how good it is, or they are. At least a Brutale, for example, is priced high enough to keep the average Joe away. Which is exactly how exotica should be. Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
Hans, the fine tail is better than no tail. At least you got a good battery, which is more than I ever did. I think your Buell enthusiast comment is far more rewarding to many others than I though. It's true, I like my tube frame Lightning's, but I find it hard to wear the T shirts these days. That said, I don't like wearing Saab T shirts either. It's a corporate thing LOL. I try to think that if you wear the products, they got you. I prefer to be a 1%er of my own kind LOL Stay well Hans. You present a lovely calming influence to the BadWeB. Rocket | ||
| Kaudette |
Rocket - have you ridden the SuperDuke? I'm curious. And I'm not throwing stones - it's just funny thinking back to my old man's 74 Norton Commando 850 with Lockeheed disks - crazy how in it's day it was a hell of a "bike" and now 30 years later.... still a hell of a "ride"... Bikes don't quite follow Morse's law but I guess when the S1 came out we were all bangin' away on a green screen IBM. Some things just aren't meant the last forever... | ||
| Rocketman |
Not ridden one Ken. I spoke with a bloke that owned one. He sold his 12S and bought the SD. Absolutely raved about it. It's not for me though. It has a certain amount of attractiveness, but it pales into insignificance next to an S1W or Brutale in the looks department. There is only one bike on my shopping list so choice is not a problem. If I buy another bike, it will be a Brutale. The question is, do I keep the Buell? Well, finances do play a part, but I'll do my best to own both, or keeping the S1W will take precedence unless someone makes me an offer I can't refuse LOL Rocket | ||
| Tramp |
sell it. seems like it's not doing it for you anymore. sooner you get rid of it, sooner i don't have this thread whining and sobbing at me. | ||
| Rocketman |
A somewhat easy example of why your confrontational attitude is transparent, as it most always is. But you did make that one obvious. Give 'em enough rope eh...... Gunners, Champions Cup Semi Final, 1st leg won. Rocket | ||
| Tramp |
??? rocket- first, on a thread about cops, you come out of left field and claim that i'm talking sh*t, calling me a liar. then, (on a buell owners' board), you start whimpering about how buells suck, and then you call ME "confrontational"? someone needs a little 'alone' time to realize it's not everyone else. | ||
| Pammy |
Sean, I am ever amazed at your eloquence and ability to stir emotion. I (as always) am one of your biggest fans. P.S. I knew you weren't throwing stones at me. I know you love me.  These bikes have their weaknesses for sure but no one can take away the aptitude for leaching great emotion(either positive or negative) out of the most stone hearted enthusiast. Having the same thoughts and emotions about mine at times, I know exactly where your thoughts reside. My bike serves a purpose for me and so I will likely be buried with the Yellow Beast. But at the same time I lust for other machines. I am here to tell you that it is O.K., my friend, to have more than one salve to quieten your desire. | ||
| Ceejay |
Hi Pam, can I use the same reasoning that you gave sir Rocket, when I try to explain things with my wife.... | ||
| Pammy |
What you need to do Corey, is to get your wife a bike as well and then it will be YOU telling HER to curb the enthusiasm.  | ||
| Ceejay |
I'd like to, just as long as I could keep my hands off it... | ||
| Newfie_buell |
Pammy don't say much but when she does speak its very good, honest and to the point!!!!! Great analogy Pammy. I feel your pain Rocket, I absolutely love/hate the S1 but I don't think I will ever shake it. Its funny I have the S1 sitting in my garage right now and I'm out riding around on a 1990 DR650. Friends are calling me crazy to have such a unique bike parked in a garage but at the moment the DR is absolutely serving the purpose. Two years ago I rode a CBR929 and it was outrageously fast and no problem hitting 260-270kph and I did that a couple times, I quietly brought the bike back to the owner, thanked him and walked away. Just too much power, not saying that I'd get used to riding it but I'd either be dead or have no license as those speeds really get the adrenaline going and are highly addictive. By the way the Buell is parked next to my old RD400 which is another bike I will never part with. As for adding another, yes I will and its just a matter of time. I don't see you as crapping on the Buell Brand your just speaking your mind on how you feel, if others can't see it that way then ....em. Good Luck in acquiring the Brutale. | ||
| Newfie_buell |
p.s. - I FINALLY have the SAAB bug out of my system. My wife helped in advising me that if I ever bring another SAAB home I will require medical attention from a specialist to remove it from where she parks it. She tells me I can have 5 more Buells over 1 SAAB. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
And I can vouch that Colleen would/could if necessary, just wish my mrs would let me buy 5 more bikes, but I know which side my bread's buttered. | ||
| Court |
>>>My wife helped in advising me that if I ever bring another SAAB home I will require medical attention from a specialist to remove it from where she parks it. I got the same talk. Cured it with a new Mercedes convertible. Seems to work so far....trying to find a way to tell her I ordered a new car today. | ||
| Newfie_buell |
Yeah, I have a love/hate thing with SAABs as well. There was one for sale where I live all winter and every time we drove by it she said "Get it out of your Mind!!!!" Damm nice cars but full of little quirks just like the Buells. Much more costly to repair than the Buell though, therefore, I'm sticking to the bikes. | ||
| Rocketman |
I don't see you as crapping on the Buell Brand your just speaking your mind on how you feel, Thank you Newf. Nail on head! Pammy, I feel your pain having to share your name with the other Pammy. She ain't such a bad thing though. At least she can laugh at herself, and Ms Love (the other Courtney that is LOL)! Tramp, you provoked my left field entry with your 'Who is this "Tramp" homo' thread when you said, and I quote i've decided that, having dished out a bit too much "what-for" here in the past, it's time to blow myself some hoo-ha, here on badweb. Think about why you wrote that crap, then tell me I'm a liar. Take my advise and quit pretending you're some sort of intellectual Hells Angel.  Rocket (Message edited by hans on April 21, 2006) | ||
| Peter |
Oh yeah, that should have been 27/61....  | ||
| Rocketman |
Pete, I still have those pulleys from several years ago, but never used \ tried them. Which reminds me. I still owe a nice favour to Court for that one. Your time will come, if you're reading Court. Maybe I should do so now? I just never bought into that 'can pull top gear thing'. Reason being, I've seen 6800 - 7000 rpm indicated and it equates to 140mph indicated. I also have a timing slip for the two miles flyer at 138 mph. Mind you, it did take three months and a strong back wind LOL. I suppose I'm going to have to fit them to prove your theory. I'll get back to you, thanks. Providing you quit taking the pistola  . Rocket | ||
| Blake |
Sean, Sorry if my frank honesty offended you. It was not intended to do so. I stand by it and hope you can reconsider it in the friendly yet honest way it was intended. You know better than to discount my views as those of someone who has not ridden his Buell aggressively. If I can grind pegs mounted to full-on racing rearsets around the likes of OHR, a very rough and technical track, all on a stock suspension, well, then you have my perspective. I think it is valid. Yes the Cyclone steering head geometry is not as aggressive as that of the S1. The S1 and X1 I've ridden were each quicker turning than my Cyclone. If you are running the Euro sprockets and hitting red line, then you are going a heck of a lot faster than 140 mph. When you hit the rev limit with the domestic USA sprockets, you should be tickling 140 mph. Anyway, if you've never done any track training, I continue to recommend it. And I recommend the suspension work and expert setup even more. | ||
| Tramp |
rocket- i don't post anything dishonest. my friends are my friends. it's sad that you attempt to judge things with which you have no experience. a few badwebbers have met some of my mc friends, and several of my mc friends read badweb, regularly. they're men, first. two badwebbers whom i know are cops, and i believe you'd realize they're people, first, and motorcyclists, when you ride with them, as opposed to, simply, cops. it's not like the movies, and it's not like the UK. shame you're not here in the states, calling me a liar to my face. (Message edited by tramp on April 21, 2006) | ||
| Court |
>>>i don't post anything dishonest. That's an accurate statement. Tramp has proven himself honorable through a host of episodes in which he and I have agreed and disagreed. When I disagree with an honorable person, it gives me pause to challenge my personal perspective and views. Discourse with folks who know HOW to discuss is the foundation upon which effective TEAMS are built. I would love for some of you, and may arrange for a couple of you, to see how a Buell product platform team works. Can you imagine a dozen of the sharpest minds in the world trying to resolve an issue on which there are 3 well based opinions of what's "right"? One element that differentiates a team from a bar room brawl is how differences are handled. When people I respect (Tramp hold you hand up . . .there, now back to your seat) disagree with me I LISTEN (a lost art, we'll talk more about later) and try to shoot holes in my viewpoints. If mine standup, I'll express them and let the counterparty, presumably also a good listened, try to erode his position. When this works, everybody wins. Don't believe me? Go ride any of the Buell XB platform bikes. Trust me, there were some VERY heated discussions, and trying moments (I'd share some but you'd have to speak Italian) during the development. No one ever attacked anyone’s character. I've known Mr. Buell to be the source of some fairly robust outbursts; he has a notoriously low threshold in terms of tolerating lack of dedication and effort. I've seen him tear thoughts and ideas to shreds. I've never once seen him attack the person. That's simply my perspective. I have a personal distaste for folks who, the moment a conversation doesn't go their way, simply spit on the other person and walk away. Court | ||
| Pammy |
"I'd like to, just as long as I could keep my hands off it..." Corey, honey....believe me...she won't mind if you touch it. Tramp, it is surely none of my beezwax, but I don't read where Sean called you a liar..."shit stirrer " is what I read. Where Sean/Rocket is concerned...there is absolutely no need to read between the lines. It has been my experience that he says exactly what he means with no further interpretation required  . Note the emoticons in the above posts. Lighten up, dude. This is the internet, not real life. We are all entitled to our own opinions and guess what...they may possibly all be different. Although, I , for the life of me, cannot remotely understand why anyones opinion should even slightly differ from mine . | ||
| Bomber |
ain't it great when you can tell which of the posters (whom you've never met in person) go off their meds? gorgeous here in the City of Big Shoulders today -- think I'll talk my bestest riding partner to ride up and down LSD tonight ;-} that should bring Thang outa the woodwork -- I know he searches for those references |
