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Slowride
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I caught SPEED channel last night and saw the AMA qualifier. BUELL 999 got in at the #8 spot.

The Super Stock race was great, amazing what 10G's will get ya.

it was on for 4 hours last night starting at 10cst.

Go Buell!
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Bcordb3
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The same show is being shown at 10:00 AM MST today, if fact it is on now. Seems that the Yamaha, Suziki, and Honda are not happy with the Buell RR. The Buell qualified 8th fastest.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know this all reminds me of my days hotrodding VW Bugs and the guys with V8's complaining about unfair weight advantages, etc. at the drag races - their official reply was if you can't handle the competition from a VW then get out of the competition. - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Lowflyer
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it's great that Buell makes up 6% of the field and all four of their bikes are in the top 20 out of 66. I would love a win, but I will be happy with a top 5 finish. DiSalvo is going to be hard to beat.
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Vegasbueller
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Di Salvo is tough, but if you watched the qualifying, Duhammel found some juice in that Honda that no one expected. I know that 200 miles is a lot more than a 20 minute qual session, but it will be anyones race by the end. Our guy did make it 8th! The Buell picked up close to 3 seconds over the qualifying period I think. Sandbagging maybe? Just a few hours to go till the truth comes out! AWESOME! GO BUELL!
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Lowflyer
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good pit stop. Nice towel.

They keep calling them "the big Buells."

(Message edited by lowflyer on March 11, 2006)
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Slowride
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well at 1333cc they are pretty big!
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Lowflyer
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Big and slow.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How a bout Duhammel crash and get up to finish 5th cool.
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Lowflyer
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool for Duhammel for sure. What a HEF for Buell!



(Message edited by lowflyer on March 11, 2006)
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Lowflyer
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder if they thought they would have to change a front tire in the pit. They looked like monkeys fornicating with a football compared to the factory teams.
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Xb9
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Buell Pit crews were definitly green. That race is usually won or lost in the pits. I was wondering how they were going to Quick-change a ZTL front brake. I'm sure there's a way, but not that way. It's not as easy as getting a conventional dual disk setup wheel on and off.

Things will get better. New bike,first race, bugs to work out, that's racing. Daytona is like an endurance race. The rest of the season's FX races will be much better for Buell.

GO BUELL RACING! Good effort!
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Halbard
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow... not even in the top 50... I expected more out of Eric... untill I realized (again) that he's held back by the hacks at Harley.

Why run the ZTL? they knew going in it's a problem... and this proves it again. Engine performance... well... the 1340 cc engine could almost perform as well as other 600 cc bikes...

I'd love to see what Eric could come up with... but as long as he's owned by Harley... stay out of racing. I can't handle being laughed at by anyone else.
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Lowflyer
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The really sad thing is that they sucked so bad, they even got spanked by a guy that crashed. The other thing that sucked is the announcers only said "Buell" about five times in total. What a joke. I feel sorry for McWilliams. He'd have made the top five (or won) if he was on a Honda or Yamaha.
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Cochise
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys are nothing more than Fair Weather Nancy Boys. Who gives a slit weather or not they finished in the top 70, at least some finished. Everybody is a racer until it's time to put up or shut up, then where are they? I'm not talking about the real racers either, they did as well or better than anybody outside of our circle thought they would.
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Halbard
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Um, so what youre saying is, um... at least they kinda finished? Thats the best we can hope for outta the mega-million dollar Harley? They kinda finished?

Common... they pushed the rules to the limit... ran a high cc bike... an oil cooler bigger then mort radiators... custom built, instead of "stock" racing... and all we get is "they finished?"

I want more. There, I said it. I want more. Eric Buell is capable of more. He has built/raced some legendary machines. This pile of steaming Harley crap ain't one of 'em.

Next time Cochise, come watch the race in a bar up in Reno... I got my a$$ laughed at by every patron in the place for supporting Buell. I stuck it out thru all the pre-race ribbing, wanting to show these boys just what an American racing machine could do. Hummm... is this our best?
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Lowflyer
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not sure what you mean by fair weather nancy boys or the put up shut up thing. I know when something sucks and they sucked hard. That doesn't mean I won't root for them again. I think they should keep riding in the races. It looks like fun. Wheeeeee!
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Mikexlr650
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

check the xboard, there is an anon post explaining the failure's. i worked on a pit crew in college, some day's it works and some day's it don't(no matter how many times we practiced it). racing is racing.
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Cochise
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All I am saying is, who cares if they didn't win, it was the first race for freakin' sakes, give them a chance to acclimate (sp) themselves and get used to some things, and they will start kickin' butt. You can't expect to go there and start wiping people's nose in it. It's just like the old Bull and the young Bull. The young Bull says, "Hey, let's run over there and screw one of them cows.", and the old Bull says, "nah, let's WALK over there, and screw them all."

Ok, maybe it's NOT just like that, but I get my point.
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Lowflyer
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I was just pulling too hard for them. The let-down from a solid 8th was painful. I'm pissed that the NASCAR channel didn't do a feature story on Buell racing for the first time since ??
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope that Buell will keep on for a while, If the flaming suits let them work with it

then if it continues to suck quit.

Erik should be given a chance, whoever it was that observed that if Buell can win a few of the events then sales and image will be effected in a positive way has it nailed, younger men are largely interested in highperf bikes the fact that there are some who thing that there R.R.R.R. is a factory race bike varient is proof

Warning:
The Surgeon General has determined that bench racing causes splinters in the arse.
In the case of some individuals this leads to brain damage.

GO Buell!
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Kdan
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The bike came out what, a month and a half ago and qualified 8th? Can't bitch about that. Have some patience and give 'em a year. Damn ZTL brakes anyway...
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Blasterd
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Next time Jason, come to Daytona and support the Buell teams like the rest of us did and quit worrying about getting bullied around by your drinking buddies.
If "you want more", be a little more supportive and not so damn selfish, you didn't invest the $32,000 in the bike did you?
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Halbard
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Um... even if I wanted too... Buell wouldn't let me, now would they?

Instead of doing some B.S. custom built, problem child race only bike... why not work with their current platform, and improve somthing I can actually get a chance to ride?

P.S.- could't get time off work... or else I would have been hanging my head in Daytona, instead of a local bar.

As far as it only being out a short time... if you ain't ready to race... why put it out? If you have concerns, and don't think your machine can handle life on the track... test it more. The end. Don't brag about your new toy only to find out it don't work.

I do support Buell... thats why my friends gave me a royal load of crap today. Eric has done some f'ing impressive things before. Too bad Harley's dragging him down.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Please don't feed the trolls.
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Bueller999
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Um... even if I wanted too... Buell wouldn't let me, now would they?
But they would let you buy an XB

Although disappointed in the final outcome, I certainly am not going to get all bent over this. I have taken crap from Jap bike riders for several years now and since I actually ride and race Buells I would think that this would affect me slightly more, as I am sure to catch more flak than usual in the pits now. But who cares? It is the first race for them. Before you bury them give it a chance, they learned a ton this week, I guarantee you. And with the development of the slipper clutch they are talking about, these problems were probably known, the just didn't have time to address them completely. They were trying to get the bike public before the biggest event of the season. Buell has had more press in the last couple of weeks than in the last couple of years. It may have blown up in their faces somewhat but what is done is done....move on.
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Halbard
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bueller999... I just want tot see more work go into the XB, instead of throwing everything into the XBRR program. People have been successfully racing the XB for years now. Thats all.
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Chellem
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just want to be clear about something. Eric did fine. His bike was performing in the top 10. The racer did fine - he was keeping right up there - not bad for the very first race. What happened was not Eric's fault. I didn't see him fumbling around with the tire, or knocking the bike off the stand. The problem is not the engine, the bike, OR the rider. The problem is finding a smooth way to change that front tire quickly.

Saying you expected "more" out of Eric is kinda unfair. I'm not sure what exactly you expected to happen, finishing would have been ok. They need to fully examine the flaws they may have found, figure out a way to change that freakin front wheel, and get back out there! Don't worry about drunks at a bar. Who cares? They're drunks at a bar!!

And people have been "successfully" racing the XBs for a while now. But not in the Daytona 200 - at least not that I've ever heard of. Racing in the big one like that takes more. Or else, someone would have done it with an XB by now, right?

Please lets just keep some perspective. The failure was a private team - not a factory team. This is racing. They wanted to compete, they did. And they'll do it again!
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Honu
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Halbard,
A race program will provide trickle down technology to the XB platform, just give it some time.
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Lowflyer
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's see a factory team with full HD backing if that's what it takes to put Buell in the mainstream. Let's see a factory team racing a production-based XB instead of this experimental fantasy bike.

I want a top-five finish!!! NOW!

(Message edited by lowflyer on March 12, 2006)
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