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Garrett1998s1
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 06:15 pm: | 
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Email doesnt give a date when it was shot. Maybe its been a while ago. dunno for sure. |
M1combat
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 06:29 pm: |
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Yikes... Be careful with bears, especially the grizzly types.
First... They like to smell like anything that might keep mosquitos away (pepper spray).
Second... Never "run" from a bear. Slowly move away and hide behind a tree (if you're upwind you're screwed anyway). They don't see very well.
Third... No. A 1911 won't do the trick unless you wait for him to rear up and then put 2-3 magazines in him. After that, you better hope you're armor is good enough for a good 1-2 minute bear thrashing before it actually dies.
Fourth - Use 3" sabot rounds. Preferably from a semi-auto shotgun like the one in my profile pic. Do not aim for the head if he's looking at you... They'll mostly only •••• him off unless you get lucky.
Fifth - They smell like pepper and are VERY FAST. VERY VERY FAST! |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 07:01 pm: |
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"Yeah, he died while making a flamboyant psychotic ass of himself."
Lowflyer has it Top Dead Center there.
M1 is correct in that the 45ACP is inadequate bear medication. (my) minimum recommendation of Handgun is .44 mag, but 12 guage slugs are a MUCH better choice.
Bears will EAT food drenched in pepper spray.
Bears are very BIG, very FAST, OMNIVOROUS, territorial,and can be moody and unpredictable.
They can and do eat humans, but they are also quite capable of killing or mauling as defensive, or territorial behavior. |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 08:21 am: |
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Here's your "good" bear:
and here's your "bad" bear relaxing between snacks:
Jack |
Blublak
| | Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 10:12 pm: |
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Please confirm that second image is a photo shop.. And not some Darwin award nominee.. |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 08:21 am: |
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Blublak - It has to be real, someone I know got it from a friend who knew a gal that found it on the 'net...
But the bear kill is real, here is the story on it:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bearhunt.asp
1,600+ pounds, 12' 6" tall, and a world record.
The National Geographic Channel had a great documentary yesterday about the bears on Kodiak. Lovely creatures, there was a time when I could have gone bear hunting but that is long past.
Jack |
Twig
| | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 09:59 am: |
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I'll never trust bears. Back in 1974 I was a member of a explorer post group. We were camping at the top of Mt. Sterling in the smokey mts. Most of the guys were 14 to 15 years old and the troop leader was 35 or so.Anyway, we were cooking bacon on a very hot skillet. Big black bear comes into the camp, runs everybody out and ate our breakfast. I'll never forget the sound that bear made when her tongue hit the hot frying pan. She ate every bit, and didn't even offer her cubs one bite. It was funny back then, nowdays I'm not so sure. Can't run as fast now like I used to. I still have old black and white photos of the bear. |
Dave
| | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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All I ever carried for Bear protection when I lived in AK was a .22 Ruger Single Six.
DAve |
Lornce
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 12:48 am: |
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Took this picture last summer in northern Quebec.
Never did see who made them. |
Madduck
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 01:11 am: |
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They caught a 100 pound cougar here in Willmar, MN last week. Three blocks from the hospital I work at. The police figure it was a pet that got away. Either way I am not reassured about my safety. Wild cougar bad, neighbor raising them maybe worse. this week a cougar walked thru the fresh snow in my mothers yard 45 miles north of here. I am seriously investigating a carry permit for something that would knock a cougar off a person should I encounter such a thing. Spent too much time out west to believe I would even hear it coming if I was its target. Hard to believe that Central MN is now cougar country. |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 10:25 am: |
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I was working in Rockaway, NJ in 2001. Riding the Cyclone from the office to my apartment around dusk one evening - this was in late May or early June timeframe - a black bear decided that it was time to cross the road from the river and make his way up the mountain. He showed no desire to hang around and spectate.
I've seen coyotes down here in East Texas that could darn near pass for wolves. There's one who's territory encompasses Oak Hill Raceway. Not sure of the reason for his mischief, possibly territorial, but the big boy likes to defecate right on the racing line. On one Saturday morning we had to shovel five piles of his off the racing line.
Have heard tales about cougars in these parts too, but not sure of their veracity.
I tend to look at nature kind of like I do freedom. I'd rather face a little risk when in the wild in favor of preserving the wild than gain a little security through its destruction.
Not sure how to deal with the dangerous wild things encroaching on "civilization." The folks in Canada and Alaska who deal with the largest carnivore that walks the Earth, polar bear, probably have the best solution. But it does require significant management and hard work.
Here's and interesting point to consider: Which is the bigger threat to people in N. America, large land predators or rattlesnakes or mosquitos?
Pepper spray seems like one of the best deterrents to unruly animals, four or two legged variety. |
Voltage_vector
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 04:26 pm: |
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Lornce...Lucky for you! |
Lornce
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 06:26 am: |
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I suppose, though it would have been interesting to observe them. Typically, black bears run away when they become aware of humans. Typically.
My riding companion on that trip in Northern Quebec swears she saw a big cat cross the highway in front of her after I'd passed. Her description didn't include a bobbed tail. The cat she saw had a long tail. Hmmmn?
Reports of alleged cougar sightings are on the increase in Eastern Canada. |
Newfie_buell
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 07:45 am: |
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I don't think we have Cougars here yet even though Coyotes are now on the island. The wildlife people say they came over hidden on Tractor Trailer Trucks or Walked across the ice where the shortest area of coastline is between Newfoundland and Labrador.
Here are some pictures of a Bear I came across last summer while in the Van. The funny thing is that the fool in the car just ahead of me got out and started to go a bit closer to get a better shot.
We don't have Grizzly, Kodiak or other real big bears only Black Bears.
Every few years we have a run in with a Polar Bear but its very few. |
Lornce
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 09:09 am: |
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Good pics, Newfer. That's a healthy looking animal.
You've piqued my curiosity, didn't know polar bears made it onto "De Rock". What's their fate? Do they weather it out and assimilate until the ice returns - or are they destroyed? |
Light_keeper
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 11:56 am: |
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Bear killed in Bell’s Flats
Article published on Tuesday, February 14th, 2006
By DEANNA COOPER
Mirror Writer
A 3-year-old “garbage” bear recently met an unfortunate end when a Bell’s Flats citizen had enough and killed the ambitious bruin based on Alaska’s “defense of life and property” law.
Over the course of several months, the bear became a familiar pest in the Bell’s Flats and Coast Guard base area. He ate people’s chickens, scrounged in their garbage and went for anything edible he could find, including fishmeal for gardens.
“We had a pretty good fish run in the Russian and Sargent Creek and that early snow in November,” said Alaska Department of Fish and Game wildlife technician John Crye. “People like hanging deer in their backyard, so the bear started taking deer out of people’s backyards, getting into the Dumpsters and he moved on to chickens, bird feeders, garbage and dog food on people’s porches.”
Crye advised people to get electric fences and set up motion detectors in some yards.
“We’d kick him out of one place and he’d go to another place,” he said.
The bear became braver and started hitting three or four houses every night, moving through the entire Flats and possibly the airport, Crye said.
He encourages people in bear-prone areas to keep a clean yard and have an electric fence around their livestock.
“The sad thing is when bears, especially family groups, learn to get into garbage. If they’re getting into garbage, they’re going to end up getting shot,” Crye said.
He added there are a lot of “good” bears around the city of Kodiak and Bell’s Flats that nobody ever sees.
Mirror writer Deanna Cooper may be reached via e-mail at dcooper@kodiakdailymirror.com.
I see that life has not changed in the old neighborhood is still the same
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Jackbequick
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 08:08 pm: |
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We have a young male Black bear that lives in our area. He was driving us crazy last year until we started bring every bird feeder in in the late afternoon hours. He would start making his rounds even in the early evening and demolish every bird feeder he could find. Here he is checking out the smorgasbord in the neighbors yard:
And delicately draining the humming bird feeder (note the missing suet bar, that's always his first choice):
He was about 150-175 pounds last year, don't know what he'll look like this year.
Jack |
Newfie_buell
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 09:01 pm: |
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The Polar Bears???
They don't weather it out and are too dangerous to have hanging around. Their usual food supply is not around here either - How come Greenpeace are not after bears for clubbing seals?!?
Its been a few years as the ice and winters have not been so bad. The wildlife people usually try to tranquilize the beasts then fly them back to the Arctic Area, I do remember one or two that were destroyed as well.
One actually made it to the South Coast of the island and actually crashed through the front window of someones home, I beleive that bear was destroyed. |
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