| Author | Message | ||
     Spatten1 |
Well, if you want small, the XB has a shorter wheelbase than any of the GP bikes, from what I understand. If you want light, I believe that the new 150HP literbikes are lighter than the XBs. | ||
| Rocketman |
Dana, I haven't put the finishing touches to the big Buell yet. No excuses either, but my (brilliantly talented) painter friend has had some business commitments to take care of over the past few months. They involved him buying a paintshop he sold a couple of years ago. If that deal comes off any time soon, that's where the Buell will get painted. So we wait. No rush. It's winter man  I rode a Busa in England also Blake, but that was 1999. The thrashing I gave, with his permission, Doug H's, (say, where is Rock these days?) in Colorado was a few years ago now. Are you gonna split hairs with me over a thousand revs???? You know the feeling I was talking about though don't ya. Rocket | ||
| Spatten1 |
Those Busa's pissed me off when they came out. I had a ZX11 that was instantly dethroned. The ZX11 was also heavy (more so than the Busa), stable, and had good go-juice. Also, Kawi's tend to have more of an intake growl than than the sewing machines sounds that Hondas sometimes make. This year will be insane, with the Kawi 1400 and the Suzuki 1500 coming out. Probably too big for my liking, but I'd love to reef on one sometime. | ||
| Blake |
Just keeping you honest mate.  | ||
| Dana P. |
Rocket mine is in the booth right now getting its final touches.But I'm looking forward to see yours done. | ||
| Ryker77 |
if you had a liter bike. You would still want more. If you had a liter bike with a turbo -- you would still want more.. ---Hello my name is ________ and I have an addiction. I am never happy and always want more. :::::::: If you don't like the power of the xb9 upgrade to a 1250 kit with heads, cam, proper tuning--- with 20-35 more HP you just might be happy and not want more. | ||
| Spatten1 |
"---Hello my name is ________ and I have an addiction. I am never happy and always want more." YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| M1combat |
Yeah... That's why I'm saving up for Traxxion forks and a Penske 8987. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Not a liter bike but I'm trying to work the final details on this...  A 1995 GSXR 750 for the track  | ||
| Midknyte |
Somethin I don't get. Ok, I do - it's "my" view/take on things. But I consider my 9R to be a Liter bike (only 16 cc's shy). To me, the 1000+ cc IL4's fall into / carve out a different category - that is, Superbikes. | ||
| Rocketman |
I'm with Midknyte. It's not about the 1000cc capacity. Look at the history of the Fireblade and how many capacity changes it's been through. Though not an IL 4 the 916 started as a 916cc, was still called a 916 in SPS form to start with but it was a 996, which became the 916 replacement. Then we got a 998cc which was a 998cc, then a 999cc engine in the final version of the 998. Confusing ain't it. So as Midknyte so rightly said, Superbikes, and that's why I mentioned the Busa's. Dana, some news filtered through this week that involves Moto GP sponsorship changes, and this worries me wrt my paint scheme. What's on this years grid could / might have some copycat effect with my Big Buell. I'll be watching closely and remain optimistic that this will not make me change my idea / design. Rocket | ||
| 12r |
Don't keep us in suspense Rocket what happened in MotoGP this week that affects your ride ? | ||
| Rocketman |
Sponsorship. Paint schemes? Rocket | ||
| Snail |
The reason G force excites us is because it acts contrary to gravity, which is what our bodies are adapted to. It doesn't matter whether the G force is achieved through cornering or straight line acceleration, it excites us. Considering that a Hayabusa will pull in excess of 1 G in the first three gears gives you a long 'burn' time. My favorite adrenalin rush is to come out of a 20 mph (posted) corner with the bike in a near slide, then accelerate through the gears. This enhnances and prolongs the rush from the G force. I am building a 1K Gix w/turbo that will be a real bottle rocket. As far as handling goes, Japanese v. Buell? That one has been covered pretty well in the past. I don't personally agree that the Buell will outperform an equivalent Japanese bike. Sorry, not buying it. For the record, the redline on the Busa is 11K | ||
| Rocketman |
For simplicity of discussion let's stick to straight line performance. G force does indeed excite us, but that does not account for ALL the sensation one gets when riding a superbike hard through the gears. Simply, some bikes can deliver a feel like no others. Like a Busa can for example. If you're not sure about this then ride a Ducati 916 -999 model of choice hard through the gears, then do likewise on any Japanese 1000cc IL 4, then you should experience exactly what you're missing when you ride the IL 4 because most can't deliver it. There is a difference, even if they're all good. Rocket | ||
| Spatten1 |
Wow, I feel the opposite. I haven't ridden a newer Duc, but the RC51 I've ridden felt like a friggen slug compared to the 1000cc IL4s. Sure you get vibration and twin sensation, but that doesn't replace 25 more horsepower for me. I'm talking shear acceleration, not character, etc. I also don't think "literbikes" would include a Buell or V-Rod, etc. The term, for the last 5 to 10 years, has meant modern top shelf performance engines in the 1000cc class. I don't think it is taken literally as displacement, as I'm sure that Buells, BMW's (other than the new one), and Moto Guzzis are not included in most people's definintion. Nor would a Goldwing. It is kind of funny that they run Buells in middleweight comparrisons, because it is a very big engine, but it does not really belong in a test with a GSXR 1000 or an MV Agusta 1000, etc. On the other hand, it is flattering that a Buell can handle well enough to compare to 600's. | ||
| Blake |
I thought it was supposed to be the G "spot" that excited folks. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Good one Blake. | ||
| Rocketman |
You know where a blokes G spot is dont'ya Blake You said it! Rocket | ||
| Blake |
An "equivalent Japanese bike"? HAH! Ain't never been no such beast, not even close. That'd be a triple negative. We kin do that down here in Tejas. ![: ]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) Buells rule! Come on down for Daytona and I'll show ya.  | ||
| Snail |
Daytona is too far. Meet me at Bonneville, we'll run title for title...my little 1K Japanese bike against your whopper 1200 M2 G spot. On a marine chart that indicates Gravel. | ||
| Tramp |
mark 'twain graffeneberg-cougar-mellencamp | ||
| Blake |
Gravel can be exciting. I'm more into the twisty turny stuff, but I do gotta see a Bonneville event one of these days. My 1200 M2 is no match for any repliracer when it comes to a drag race or speed run. So please forgive me, but I'll be keeping the title safe and sound down here in Tejas. Some crazy land speed racer sent me the pic below.  The Snailman's Turbo Gixmotor | ||
| Blake |
What's that extra pedangus on the upper left? Waste gate? No intercooler? You got any extra spark to run that thing? Fun stuff. | ||
| Snail |
I save my extra spark for the ladies G spot.... Waste gate. Intercooler and radiator removed for pic. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Now that is the kind of custom I can appreciate. | ||
| Fdl3 |
What's up with the big ding in the leftmost header?  | ||
| Medic_2512 |
I had an 02 RC51, nice bike dynoed at 124rwhp with slipons and a PCIII. Just depends on what your used to, if you get off a bike with 100rwhp the RC will seem very fast. Compared to my 03GSXR1000 that dynoed at 162rwhp with a Yosh slipon and PCIII the honda felt like a moped. Pulls hard from as low as 3000rpm and power wheelies in the first 4 gears. | ||
| Medic_2512 |
Now if could just get it to sound like a V twin? | ||
| Blake |
Install a big bang crank. The Kawis in MotoGP sounded wicked last year, the most gnarly on the track from my perspective. |
