| Author | Message | ||
     Ryker77 |
BMW has a nice f800st Sport tour 800cc twinbike. http://www.webbikeworld.com/BMW-motorcycles/bmw-f-800-st/bmw-f-800-st.jpg When is that new version of the s3 going to destroy BMW's little 800 twin. I believe the Uly has allready taken a few bmw GS riders. | ||
| Ryker77 |
http://bmwhp.org/IMG/INT/NEWS/PB150036.jpg single side swingarm with belt drive | ||
| Ryker77 |
http://mopped.michaelbense.de/index.php?cat=10 | ||
| Ryker77 |
F800ST has a weight to HP ratio of 4.94:1 85hp 64ft/lbs and 420lbs An XB-T would eat it for breakfast! for way less money | ||
| Trojan |
An XB-T would eat it for breakfast! for way less money But have you seen the new R1200S ? 122bhp! | ||
| Ghostrider |
At the Riding The Rockies Adventure, I asked Erik when they would come out with the next sport tourer. He pointed to the Uly and said, "There it is." I guess he doesn't understand that not all of us want an over grown dual sport. I have a firebolt, but would like to have a true sport tourer. I've recently looked at the Honda ST1300. It's comfortable, roomy, and made for miles. | ||
| Ryker77 |
all were asking for is a Ss with a fairing and bags. Just sell a "tour kit" that can be installed onto and Xb.. '''Yes I've seen the r1200s and I sold my r1100sa to get my x1. Not to found of BMW new wiring system. Also not fond of the MPG's BMW gets. my r1100sa with a 6speed tranny got around 30mpg. | ||
| Buellkowski |
If enough buyers are willing to deposit some cash for a few months, I'm sure an enterprising Bueller could buy design time and a mold. I volunteer to be in charge of the accounting and road test teams.  | ||
| Fullpower |
"but would like to have a true sport tourer." try the XB12s. that is my definition of sport touring motorcycle. have twice ran it 1000 miles in under 24 hours. have ridden MANY 1300 mile weekends on it, only thing i could ask would be an additional gallon of fuel capacity. | ||
| Crusty |
BMW isn't getting all of the market. I'm looking pretty seriously at a Moto Guzzi Breva 1100. I know,"Sport-Tourers don't sell." That's why I'm about to drop twelve grand on one.(Unless it really sucks when I test ride it) | ||
| Buellgrrrl |
Over at the diehard BMW list, the airheads, the new BMW 800cc. twin has proviked some interest, but nobody seems to be saving up a down payment for one. My guess is that BMW will want over $10,000 for one and that will leave Buell and everyone else plenty of breathing room. Like the F650, an excellent $6000 motorcycle selling for half again that price, I suspect BMW won't sell a lot but will make a lot of money on this bike. | ||
| Martya |
just sold an 1150rt for an XB12r, the most expensive bike i bought and the only one to breakdown on me, twice!(BMW). the new triumph sprint ST looks a good bet for "sport's tourer". | ||
| Brucelee |
I would think Buell could easily mod the new Ss to be a nice sport tourer, at least for the rider. Don't know about the chick in the back though! | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Check out the Moto Guzzi Norge if a V-twin S/T bike interests you. I think it's sweet, aside from the afterthought placement of the mirrors. http://www.maxmoto.co.uk/moto_guzzi_1200_norge.shtml | ||
| Court |
I've got a BMW with some absolutely awesome luggage now which, in terms of liters/cc, is one heck of a bike for carrying stuff. But, alas, a motorcycle, at least for me and most of America, is less of a true utility vehicle and more recreational vehicle. One of my criteria is "fun". Given my experience with BMW, which is pretty much lackluster and "totally vanilla dude", I'd prefer, from those two, the Moto Guzzi. It's a marque with a Buell like following. But. . . the thought of the Buell SS going through, what would seem to be, a mild metamorphisi to become a 100% highway targeted sport-tourer is most interesting. The platform, the largest hurdle, has been leapt. The motor, say what you will, is ideally suited. For that type of riding, I'll sacrifice top end for low down grunt anyday. I want to be able to "pass enthusistically", not outrun F1's. Cool thread....you really have me thinking on this SS deal. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Looking at the Ss, I'd have to say in order to make it a S/T it would need a 3/4 to full fairing and hard bags. Good weather protection on your lower body can be priceless when you are eating the miles. Then I would upgrade the cooling fan, and put a bigger oil cooler, for the ineveitable hot conditions and traffic that a sport tourer is going to get into. And to top it all off I'd look for a slightly longer wearing tire, even if it is at the slight expense of GP like handling. | ||
| Buellkowski |
Where/how do the Uly's side bags mount? Is there anything in that hardware that could be massaged into an Ss tail section? Anyone brave enough to mount a Uly tail on an Ss? How about a Uly windscreen as well? | ||
| Ryker77 |
and small oil cooler could be mounted just like BMW r1100s. Right up front just below the headlight. It would get blasted air and keep the bike cool. Fairing. I'd like to see a removable faring. That would allow naked summer bike or full faired winter bike. Surely with the number of Xb's on the market either buell or an aftermarket company should jump on a "Touring Kit" | ||
| Old_mil |
Based on European pricing, the US price of the 800st is going to be $13,500. I don't think they're going to move many of them trying to sell the thing for $1000 more than an FJR. | ||
| Gomo |
I believe that Buell is 85% there with a Sport-Tourer. The SS would be a perfect platform and as far as hardbags, Buell already has a set of great bags - the Uly's. I would think that fabrication of brackets to make the bags fit a SS is far cheaper and easier than starting from scratch. I also like the removable fairing and lowers idea. Just make a set of handlebars that set back & up for some and TaaDaa - An American Sport-Tourer that is so much more. Now one bike can be either naked, sport-touring, partially faired or a mixture of all. Having one bike do so much with a few options, could easily attract a larger customer base. Not only would it make several present Buell owners gaga, but thoose that have been on the outter edges may come in and enjoy themselves - sounds like a good idea to me. | ||
| Branebanger |
Im the kind of rider that rides where I'm going. there's nothing wrong with shipping your bike to your destination but I dont do that. I needed a bike that I can leave my house with, and go where the day leads me. the FJR and the GS were on my list for over a few years and I was very close to buying a gs. Having ridden GSXR's for the past decade, the FJR just didn't do it for me. I've been cross country on my gsxr a few times so I dont buy into the comfort angle either, a long ride is a long ride, no matter what you're riding. with some luck I found this site, read everything I could in the archives. and it was 'just' enough to get me to wait for a uly. I was initially a bit freaked out, there were more than a few posts about buells with problems. but I read on and without fail, they were followed by suggestions, leads, contacts, etc. someone cares about buell riders in a way I have not seen with bmw's. I mean, I've seen Mr. Buell play blues, and the last time I checked there is no 'Mr. BMW', and if there is, he doesn't play the blues. The bottom line is the bike. and so far mines been great. I have to admit I'm only at ~12k miles, well see how things go past 50k. I've never had a bike for 50k miles before, I'm really hoping this is my first. Adam | ||
| Bartimus |
be patient grasshopper... I think something is in the works with the lightning long. It's a good start towards a good sport tourer. All it needs is a decent fairing that works, like the S2 or S3 bikes had. and a better tail section that will work well with bags and a passenger. I think the mothership hears us and accessories may be coming in the future. Buellwhore | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Bartimus _ I don't think the fairing lowers on my S3T are particularly effective. Any new ones would have to be better. I think they have a unique look though. | ||
| Crusty |
I have no complaints with the S3-T fairing lowers protection. I rode through a lot of rain and they kept my legs relatively dry, and a good bit warmer in the winter. I didn't realize how good they worked until I got my M2. I didn't like the way they cracked and broke, but like every other problem that Buell has addressed, that's now a non-issue. Now, If only the factory (Erik) would address the problem of not making a Sport-Tourer (and not by building a 2 wheel SUV) I'd be a lot happier. | ||
| Sanchez |
http://mopped.michaelbense.de/index.php?cat=10 Anyone else think this bike looks like Bill The Cat?  | ||
| Whodom |
Eck! Ppphhhhttt! | ||
| Shred |
Myself and about 4 other 3%ers were crusin up 60 north from Suches Ga. (look at that road on a map) We were going into a straight away and this guy on a 05'R1200S buzzed us at about a 120mph. I realized this was the same guy we had seen at T.W.O (Motorcycle Resort) in Suches Ga that has passed one of our fellow 3%ers and was bragging about it and sticking his noise in the air while doing it. To make a long story short I pulled out of our riding formation and dropped the hammer and it was on. He had the top end speed but as we hit the twisties he was toast. He wouldn't let me by and almost wrecked 3 times trying to stay in front and coming out of every corner he wouldn't hold his line. I backed off because I don't want to see anyone wreck trying to prove something. I saw a hard left hander and he went wide and I stuck-it to the inside and end of story. We all ended up at the same gas station. Needless to say he seemed to like our bikes and wasn't trash-mouthing them anymore. I told him lesson 101, If your going to buzz someone and show your AZZ make sure you can stay in front. He laughed and said it was all good... (Message edited by shred on November 28, 2005) (Message edited by shred on November 28, 2005) |
