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Dago
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My good friend found an auction on ebay for a 2004 Ducati 999 for $2700. When he told me about it, I called scam and blew it off.

He took the liberty to email the seller. He wrote:

"$2,700? Whats wrong with it?"

THe seller replied:

"Hello there, First of all I want to thank you for contact me and your interest to purchase my bike. The bike is like new, in perfect conditions, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. The price for it is $2,700(us dollars) with all the shipping taxes included. All the manuals and the original documentation are written in eight languages. As a shipping career I will use Lufthansa Air Cargo insured, all the shipping/handling and insurance charges are included in the sale price. You will get the package with proper custom papers, clear title, bill of sale signed by me as well,please note that there isn't or never was any problem with the bike. So me know if you are interested and I will provide you further information to purchase the bike ASAP"

My friend forwarded me this email, which I in turn forwarded to the seller with these words:

"My friend Eric emailed you with my interest in mind.

I’m very interested. Being that I don’t have the link to the e-bay listing (I’ll try to find it), could you please forward detailed pics of the bike and VIN number as well as a copy of the clear title?

If everything matches up properly and everything is on the up and up, I’ll wire the money to you today."

He responded:

"Hello,
Sorry about the auction! It seems that according to eBay I still have to pay some fees (taxes) for some old transactions. I didn't receive any emails from them to announce me about that, that's why I did not pay!
Therefore, they decided to stop my auction until I will complete the payment for the old debts. It is rather pitiful, but that's what happened!
I will fulfill my obligations and afterwards I will renew the auction!
Anyway, the product is still available for sale and I would be glad to answer whatever questions you might have about it!
Thank you for understanding!"

My reply:

"Well, if you can send me some detailed pics of the bike and vin plate along with a scan of the clear title that shows matching numbers you’ll more than likely have a sale outside of e-bay."

What else should I ask for? Is there anything I'm missing here?

I know deals too good to be true usually are...

Thanks in advance!
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Scitz
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's a scam to get you to wire money out of the country where they can't be arrested for fraud.
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Dago
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are there any customs issues I'll have to deal with shipping a bike into the States like this?
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Dago
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gotcha, Scitz. Thanks.
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Whodom
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
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Typeone
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Scitz is exactly right, there have been many cases of this on eBay. You read more about deadbeat sellers being called out and reported to eBay on the Japanese forums. Dont' waste your time Dago.
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Dago
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not. He never replied to my request for detailed pics, copy of the clear title, or additional details on where the bike actually is nor where it would be shipped from.

Thanks again.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If there's ever anything like that that I'm interested in I will ask if my friend who lives locally to them can come see the item in person. If the seller all of a sudden says the item is located elsewhere, well then as if by magic I also happen to know someone who lives near that new location too. ; )
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