| Author | Message | ||
     Frausty_void |
Eeeeek, Like this  (man's gotta sleep right?!)  | ||
| Eeeeek |
Prior: Word on multiple pavers joined together is no. So the question is what to do with the extra money? Vik | ||
| Frausty_void |
Or...  I tried make the last line a bit more positive as recommended by blake. | ||
| Frausty_void |
I say give the extra money to his family, or buy a nice Marble/stone Motorcycle to be placed along side his Headstone. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
it's important to me, and i think it would be important to Gordon, that the words "SacBORG" and "BadWeatherBikers" are included somehow, somewhere, in the inscription. FB | ||
| Frausty_void |
- SACBORG & BADWEB could replace "- Loving Friends" Still fits the 19 character constraints. | ||
| Blake |
Great job Vic. Jerry, Frausty, Methinks we may be trying for too much content on one lone brick. Do we not have at least two more 12x12 bricks to fill? Or if that is up for discussion then consider possibly providing his family with a replica brick and donating the rest to the RRW Action Fund in memory of Gordon Buhle? If desired a RRW Action Fund donation could be submitted as... "In loving memory of racing fan Gordon Buhle by his friends at BadWeatherBikers.com and SacBORG.com" | ||
| Eeeeek |
Hey....I like it, Blake. We could order a couple of replica bricks (although not available in 12 x 12, maybe they could make them in 8 x 8) for the family and donate the rest to the Action Fund in his name. Vik | ||
| Henrik |
Great looking paver - and a perfect change of wording for the positive. I'd be in favor of the Action fund. Henrik | ||
| Frausty_void |
Blake, Surely we could get more than one.. but we can't combine them, and I'm not sure about them "connecting" their location. Also about the "too much content on one lone brick" They allow for a Logo and six lines of text, the above is just an idea on how it may look. I'm sure it will be more spaced out as thats really a 6x6 picture (60kb filesize limit) I've got the paver background/layers saved as a .psd so any changes can be made in a matter of minutes. Edit: Just thought of this, but is it ok that we're using a Buell© logo? I mean it's for a great cause don't get me wrong... but could legal issues arise from this? Did Gordon meet Eric? Just a side thought.. don't wanna be committing copyright infringement. Being an amatuer graphic designer,gotta watch out for stuff like that. (Message edited by frausty_void on August 18, 2005) | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
i have a call in to the person who will make the decision whether or not we can combine pavers at Laguna, and am presently waiting for a reply. not that i doubt you Vik, but i don't give up very easily, and i'm told i can be very persuasive. i agree that we don't want to crowd "too" much onto one paver, hence my desire for more than one, especially since we have the budget for it. as for donating any "excess" to the Action Fund, as a good friend of mine reminded me not more than a few hours ago, "Folks donated for a specific purpose; best to keep their donations headed in that direction unaltered." seemed like good advice then, seems like good advice now. i had in mind a 12 x 12 paver as above (great job, Vik!), and perhaps it could be flanked with a squadron of 4 x 8 pavers. if we get the green light for this from Mr. Fields at Laguna, it would open up the opportunity to make an even more impressive, distinctive, and righteous memorial to Gordon. it would also allow additional text. i REALLY like the idea of mentioning SacBORG and BadWeB (or BadWeatherBikers), as this effort is, so far, being spearheaded 100% by our two motorcycle enthusiast groups. however, Monique (Buhle) Morales has asked me to burn copies of this fundraising effort to hand out at Gordon's memorial tomorrow. she thinks what we're doing here is fantastic, and my guts tell me that another influx of $ may be headed to the fund very soon, from people not necessarily intimate with BadWeB and/or SacBORG. food for thought, and we're not crunched for time. the money is in good hands, Vik and all of us are doing a great job of trying to create something truly befitting our friend Gordon, and we should continue to do what we're doing, that is keep pitching our suggestions and ideas until we KNOW we're at the right place. Vik, again, I don't doubt your word, but i couldn't let go of the concept of being able to park pavers next to each other without having a run at Laguna. no offense meant, not trying to get in the way, it's just that this effort by all of us is very personal to me, and i have to try. will post an answer from Mr. Fields just as soon as i hear back from him. thanks everyone, and please keep the ideas coming! FB | ||
| Jb2 |
GORDON BUHLE MEMORIAL FUND 1652.18 Current Balance There were no donations to report today. I've been watching the process unfold and as treasure I'm choosing to stay out of the decision making process. Having said that there are a few things that should be taken into consideration. 1.) The entire balance must be applied towards one or more memorials(pavers, roadside marker, donation to charitable cause, etc.) at the conclusion of this effort and they all must bear Gordon's name or be made in his name. SacBORG and BadWeB pavers would have to be placed next to or frame Gordon's paver to fall under the kosher umbrella. Fingers crossed that your appeal to Laguna doesn't fall on deaf ears. Sounds like a good idea. 2.) Should we call a deadline so that we don't have donations trickling in after you folks have budgeted the final tally? Ferris do me a HUGE favor when you burn those copies for the memorial tomorrow... request that people from outside our two BBS communities mention their affiliation(family, friend, co-worker, XL board, Porsche) with Gordon if they choose to donate. So far it's been easy because I know most everyone participating or at least know of them. Thanks. Ride Safe tomorrow, JB2 | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
will do, JB2, thanks for the good work and the good suggestions. FB1 | ||
| Blake |
Fausty, No need to combine them. If those heading up this effort decide to do so, they may simply specify additional memorial bricks that stand-alone, entirely upon their own merits. Two or three distinct and different versions. Whatever. Jerry, I lie your idea of a layout with one 12"x12" paver flanked by three 4"x8" bricks. I'm not comfortable with the idea of recognizing BadWeatherBikers.com on the memorial brick(s) especially if there is to be only one. Seems a bit self-promoting to me, but then I may have a different perspective on that issue what with my own personal involvement here. It just makes me personally uncomfortable. However, if the folks running the effort are okay with it, I will be too. I think you may have misinterpreted that statement you quoted. As long as the funds are spent memorializing Gordon, how can there be a problem? Also please consider that there will likely be funds remaining after the Laguna-Seca brick effort. Where do those remaining funds get invested? Gordon was a racing fan. The RRW action fund seems like a another great and even productive way to honor our fallen friend. Not up to me though. Just a suggestion trying to help. | ||
| Bobup |
Frausty_void "Edit: Just thought of this, but is it ok that we're using a Buell© logo? I mean it's for a great cause don't get me wrong... but could legal issues arise from this? Did Gordon meet Eric? Just a side thought.. don't wanna be committing copyright infringement. Being an amatuer graphic designer,gotta watch out for stuff like that. " As I understand it...copyright infringement is usually only persued when there is money being made from the use of said logo....Court might be able to give a more legal response. Bob | ||
| Jb2 |
Blake you hit the nail on the head with the RRW action fund. I foresee a "leftover" amount and since we need to spend every penny of the donations towards something in memory of Gordon this would be the perfect solution. I also like the idea of SacBORG/BadWeB pavers framing or surrounding Gordon's but we could go another route if that doesn't get a unanimous vote. Don't forget a roadside memorial(like Daryl's) as one option. If Gordon sketched, like his brother mentioned, maybe we could get our hands on something he drew(motorcycle related) to create another paver with his artwork? I'm sure we're okay on the copyright deal. If we got any flack over the old logo it would probably be from Marathon Oil Co. if you guys remember correctly. (Message edited by jb2 on August 19, 2005) | ||
| Eeeeek |
Ferris, no oofense taken. You may also be asking different questions. I asked if multiple pavers could be placed together to form a larger image and got a no. My opinion: The fund is for a memorial to Gordon, not BadWeb and SacBorg. I agree with Jim on the Copyright thing. Buell moved on to the new logo not out of choice. I would think He'd be happy to see the old one live on. Vik | ||
| Firstbuell |
Hello all, Unfortunately a couple of us that go to American Sport Bike Night can not make the ride on Saturday.... so we (myself and Skip) are going to run the route ourselves on Sunday (21st). We are planning to meet up at Alice's at 11:00 Sunday morning (closer for us to start from) and run the same loop, starting and ending at Alice's. Those others that may be interested in joining us, please do. Bob Mappes [bobup] XB9SX -------------------------------------------------- Sounds great to me - too many folks are unavailable Sat, so have at it. I hereby declare Gordon's 2nd Memorial Ride is 11am tomorrow, Sun 8/21, beginning [and ending] at Alice's. Curt | ||
| Jb2 |
GORDON BUHLE MEMORIAL FUND 1652.18 Previous Balance 19.12 {20.00} 48.25 {50.00} 96.80 {100.00} 23.97 {25.00} ------- 1840.32 total to date I continue to be in awe of the outpouring here. (Message edited by jb2 on August 20, 2005) | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
cool! | ||
| Jb2 |
GORDON BUHLE MEMORIAL FUND 1840.32 Previous Balance 38.54 {40.00} ------ 1878.86 total to date | ||
| Firstbuell |
JB2, that total is super - I'll send in my $$, too. Vik [+ others, too] I recently said: "We all liked the paver idea, and now, I have another: A Gordon patch, simple & rectangular, blue lettering on black, based on the paver design & text. Its cost would be 100% funded by sales, or perhaps underwritten with some of the surplus from the paver account. Watcha think?" Ferris replied: "....the patch idea sounds good, and i encourage you to run with it. clear anything that involves promoting your idea via BADWEB with Blake first. using the paver design that Vik has spearheaded sounds great. there could be issues regarding using some of the paver fund for this, since the money so far has been donated for that purpose only. i'd be ok with a portion of the $ that Denise and i donated being used to design and create a patch, but i can't speak on anyone else's behalf, of course. the time to run with the patch idea is now, while Gordon's memory is still fresh and vivid in our collective minds...." Comments, anyone? | ||
| Jon |
To that end, I have had a T shirt idea. I'll try to get the art work done and then post. | ||
| Sparky |
I like the idea of a simple patch. It's an honorable way to commemorate a departed friend that can be expressed in a personal way. Sparky | ||
| Jon |
Well that can be said fro a T shirt certainly. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. | ||
| Jb2 |
GORDON BUHLE MEMORIAL FUND 1878.66 Previous Balance 1.80 Adjustment 50.00 ------ 1930.66 total to date The $1.80 adjustment comes from our first accounting. I had attempted to "cut and paste" the figures from our PayPal account but was unsuccessful so I keyed them over manually. I typed the balance incorrectly and started the accounting with that wrong figure(ARRRGH!). All the checks have cleared and all PayPal donations have been posted to our account. Although we haven't closed the fund to new donations it would appear that everyone who wanted to make a contribution has. Vik this is your budget. | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
i haven't heard back from Laguna re: multiple pavers, i will put in another call this morning. | ||
| Eeeeek |
Here's another idea. Start an informal club: The Gordon Buhle 100,000 mile club. Exclusive to people who put 100,000 miles on their bike. Vik | ||
| Jerry_haughton |
i just got off the phone with Steve Fields at Laguna Seca; doesn't look good for placing multiple pavers side by side. sorry. i tried. the connection was poor, and we made arrangements to speak again in the morning, when i can talk to him on his office phone instead of his cell phone. i *think* he was beginning to offer up some other ways we might be able to honor Gordon at Laguna, but it was hard to tell with the connection being so bad. i'll post more in the morning, but based on his reply just now it seems that there is no way to *guarantee* that multiples pavers would be placed side-by-side in a pattern of our choosing, and if we CAN'T do that, then i think one 12 x 12 would be appropriate, leaving the decision as to what to do with the other $1430.66. i will talk to Mr. Fields again in the morning, and post the outcome of the call immediately thereafter. FB | ||
| Sparropie |
Been out of touch for the last little bit. Sounds like you guys are doing Gordons tribute up right. Gotta say the patch sounds kinda cool to me. I loved the road side memorial too... Right On bros. sooner, Galen |
