| Author | Message | ||
     Sarodude |
A buddy has stumbled upon a bunch of tube frame components with no motor. He was thinking about various motor build options and was wondering about starting with an XB motor. I seem to remember that there was a BadWeB poster who actually had this done - and with massive dealer help at that! Anyone have any recollections? I've trolled and searched and can't seem to find this info. -Saro | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
I looked into it, the problem is the XB cases. If you can get a tuber shortblock, the internals, cylinders and heads can be switched over to the tuber case. To make the XB cases work, will require a mounting plate to be fabricated to mate to the tuber engine/swingarm plate. I have an S3 frame I had intended on putting an XB engine which I have a spare of, but its the fabrication part that is looking costly since I do not have the equipment to make up the bracketry. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Note: the above comment about switching parts from one case to another did not include the transmission. | ||
| Slaughter |
Saro - look at the two S1-framed race Blasts at Willow Springs on the next race weekend. Could be a real pain in the •••. Work was done by Wil at Bartels racing. | ||
| Fullpower |
saro: the obvious thing is to build up a big mean sportster motor to drop right in the tube frame. the XB doesn't have any thing over the sportster, EXCEPT THE HEADS, which will retro-fit.(ok the bronze oil pump drive is cool) I wish it was so easy to get my XB to make horsepower. the sportster engine, with that magic AFI system ( Atmospheric Fuel Injection, also sometimes refered to by the french term Carburetor), and easily accesible stand-alone ignition module is so darned easy to hot rod. myself, i would LOVE to find a well used M2 chassis to bolt a cammed up high compression 89 inch stroker motor into. with a 4.5 gallon steel tank, rubber mounts, 100 ftlbs torque and 21:50 chain drive ratio, I think 60 mile per hour roll on wheelies would be pretty easy in 3rd gear. that and a 200 mile fuel range. | ||
| Fullpower |
also the further possibility of the 6 speed transmission, which is still available for the evo sporty makes an attractive project idea. | ||
| Steve_mackay |
Fullpower, the flywheels & pistons on the XBs are also different. Hals HD has done several XB transplants to tube. Putting all XB components in to tuber cases. Also, why would you want an 89" "STROKER" motor? You can make 100 Ft/LBS out of your XB. There are several speed shops that can do that with ease. Hals HD, NHRS, and Cyclerama all come to mind. | ||
| Sarodude |
There are many refinements to the XB motors beyond heads, cams, etc. They seem to be much more reliable than the traditional XL motors. Hals it is, then.... -Saro | ||
| Seth |
I found this: http://www.halspa.com/default.asp?P=11 | ||
| Fullpower |
"why would you want an 89" "STROKER" motor?" "TORQUE" with a 4.312 inch stroke strong acceleration is on tap from 2500 rpm.the stroker flywheels are also smaller in diameter, and very much lighter in weight than the stock 883 wheels, so the thing revs like a 2 stroke.spools up faster than the tach needle. | ||
| Bigblock |
S T R O K E R . . .= T O R Q U E . . . Might make a bit o' HP, Too | ||
| Paint_shaker |
How about a tuber motor (trans and all) in an XB?? | ||
| Easy_rider |
That price is just a little too steep for me. I've got a S3 frame and bodywork that I'd like to resurrect. I'm not too sure I can break even unless I can get an engine/tranny for ~$1500 and that's with using upgrade castoffs from my running S3. For someone going to keep a bike around for awhile it may be appealing (actually I think that's what happened to the motor that was in this frame), for those trying to keep within a recoverable budget finding a rebuildable sporty motor might be the way to go. I actually decided today to start trying to price that option to compare with the $1500-$2000 range. If anyone's got a more cost effective way to get a frame back on the road I'm all ears! | ||
| Steve_mackay |
Easy Rider, you may want to check the classifieds here. There was someone selling an '01 X1 motor IIRC, for $1500 |
