| Author | Message | ||
     Xb12burner |
Anyone see the Goldammer Board Track Racer 3 bike? It has what appears to be the ZTL brake on the front and rear. This guy won the Art in Iron award as shown on the travel channel last night. Isn't this brake system supposed to be heavily patented? | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
It isn't a ZTL system but a hard mounted perimeter rotor design. What is patented is the mounting and free floating rotor design, not the perimeter style. What happens when motorcycle rotor isn't a floating type? it warps kinda fast... | ||
| M1combat |
The patent also requires that if someone does market a perimeter mounted rotor, they can not take advantage of the primary benefit... The reduction of un-sprung mass. The wheel that they use must be capable of transmitting braking forces from the hub to the rim or it infringes on Buell's patent  | ||
| Dana P. |
Got a pic?? | ||
| M1combat |
I don't, but it's a very nice looking bike IMO... | ||
| M1combat |
Try here... http://www.goldammercycle.com/BT%20Bike2.htm It looks to me like the rotor is mounted almost exactly like the ZTL setup... | ||
| Xb12burner |
On the show he does a lot of talking about the special 23" wheels, but never once says anything about the brakes, I thought that was odd. I think it looks like it is mounted very similarly to my bike as well. | ||
| Dana P. |
M1 I just got done doing the second annual Wisconsin Custom Build-off out of my bar this past August 21st.This was one of the bikes in my show.Built by Don Cook (Cooks Custom Choppers).Notice the brakes!!!   | ||
| Dana P. |
Heres alittle tidbit about it. http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2005/08/22/local/iq_3652205.txt | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
If you zoom in on the closeup pic, the area of the rotor is closed at the mounting point, not open like on our XB's, which means its not a free floating design, it may be spring loaded and floating, but as it heats and cools it can't expand and contract the ours does without binding and warping. | ||
| M1combat |
That's a nice looking bike... | ||
| Dana P. |
Cool I thought as well but it lost.The brakes on the two bikes above appear to be the same. | ||
| M1combat |
Unless all of the holes are slotted just a little... or I think that would be equivalent... | ||
| Buell_less |
Where does this fit in?  (Message edited by buell_less on September 08, 2005) | ||
| M1combat |
That's a wheel that can be bought. The rotors are hard mounted. | ||
| Tom_b |
Hank Young sells a pretty similar perimeter disc brake kit. It comes with bungs to weld on a steel wheel. Not that complicated, but pricey. caliper is hard mounted. It has been used on several of his bikes. | ||
| Rokoneer |
The Guzzi pictured above would 'fit in' my garage nicely! | ||
| Blake |
Pretty sure the perimeter kit brake disk on the Guzzi above also protrudes out in harms way well past the edge of the rim. | ||
| Trojan |
The wheel on the Ghezzi & Brian 'Guzzi' is made by Braking of Italy (The same people who make the wave rotors). It is a dual disc setup rather than the single on the Buell. They do a Buell fitment for the tube framers, and Reg Kitrelle tested one on a Buell in Battle2win many moons ago. If my memory serves correctly (and it often fails these days!) the conclusion was that it wasn't a huge improvement on the stock setup and upset the handling of the bike. |
