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Turnagain
| Posted on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 09:27 am: |
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Hein, Didn't read and couldn't see if you're using a frame brace. If not, maybe something to consider. After going through this thread, I think I'll check into it. Steve(2) |
Ralph
| Posted on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 10:56 am: |
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Wow, man, so much love on this board. Hein, I'm retracting what I said about the tie bars. When I woke up I realized they have nothing to do with height. I also realized it'd be a piece of cake to set them up. Cool, forget that one. Hans, Charley welded one like that up? More balls than me (okay, actually it's the rider with the cajones). If nothing else Hein, that's a good clue. That X1 broke the head in the crash so you can sure look at the crash as the possible beginning of that fracture. To bad there are the other problems that confuse the issue. Arvel, Hein has flowed heads. He might want to stick with his. By the way, try as you might, we all know your an engineer too, plllllgdddhdhdhd. Lars, how long ago were the isolators replaced and by whom? The reason I ask is the typical thing to do removing the isolators is basically to drop the rear of the motor. That leaves the front mount as the only contact area. That's okay as long as the motor isn't dropped to far. If it is dropped to far, guess where all the stress goes? Uh huh, front mount. There were a spate of bolt failures a few years ago. Would you believe they were associated with isolator replacement? Since, the factory has fixed the isolator issue and gotten the word out on the correct method for replacement. I am NOT saying this is the cause, just a possibility. bighairyralph |
Lars
| Posted on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 12:11 pm: |
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bighairy sez: Lars, how long ago were the isolators replaced and by whom? The reason I ask is the typical thing to do removing the isolators is basically to drop the rear of the motor. That leaves the front mount as the only contact area. That's okay as long as the motor isn't dropped to far. If it is dropped to far, guess where all the stress goes? Uh huh, front mount. There were a spate of bolt failures a few years ago. Would you believe they were associated with isolator replacement? Since, the factory has fixed the isolator issue and gotten the word out on the correct method for replacement. I am NOT saying this is the cause, just a possibility. Hmmm, if I remember correctly, (OWW that hurts!) it was last done about 2 years ago. The bike sat in mothballs for the last year though and just came back on line this month. MANCHESTER did the work on the isolators both times. It seems they twisted the first set while installing them. I can see where that would be a lot of weight on the front end. I've got an appointment with TSI down in CT for July 9th. DO NOT want Manchester to touch it again, ever. Thanks for the info O Great Hairy One. Lars |
Mark_In_Ireland
| Posted on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 02:36 pm: |
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The pictures posted by Hein is exactly what has happened to mine....the crack is identical, the paint been rubbed off on the frame but my oil filter remains perfect. I don't know when the crack appeared as I only noticed it when I cleaned the bike and I don't clean it very often!! |
Hans
| Posted on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 03:53 pm: |
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What Carley did: Looks irrepairable Shaving Would it be possible then? As new after powdercoating. Pictures without any permission or consent stolen from Charley`s site. |
S2no1
| Posted on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 05:35 pm: |
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Don't you love it when you know there are some really skilled people out there. Arvel |
Anonymous
| Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 12:28 pm: |
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Great job for an antique motorcycle with obsolte parts. Personally In rather replace. |
Hans
| Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 02:07 pm: |
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Well Anon, you have a problem then: Anonymi have no personality. Hans. |
Court
| Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 02:17 pm: |
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Hans: Agreed. The "antique motorcycle" statement is patently, regardless of one's preferred object of passion, inaccurate statement that robs any words that follow of credibility. Here....wanna play? How come Porsche or Lomborghini can't get their act together and make a vehicle with as low a Coefficient of Drag (cd) as, say, a 15 year old Buell? And, in my world, someone who would "rather replace".....well, should. Timing couldn't be better. The world is plum chuck full (Arvel can explain to you what that means) of GREAT motorcycles. But, I'm betting that they at least wait until July 13th...hehehehe. Court |
Rocketman
| Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 03:48 pm: |
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Ah yes, but Charley is few in his years and his Buell is only a couple of years old too, and it is an excellent testament to the fellas skills which speaks volumes for his Buell brain (undeveloped brain that is , Analmouse) . Rocket in England |
Hein
| Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 04:55 pm: |
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I've been to the dealer (West Coast Motors in Alkmaar) today with the bike and after some thorough measurements there was no other conclusion possible than a bent triangle. They were really generous in admitting that they should have seen the bent triangle straight away. They called H-D/Buell Benelux and found out that a new frame is gonna take at least 2 months to be produced and arrive in Holland. With that knowledge they talked to Nico Bakker, the famous frame builder from Holland and he stated that it would be absolutely no problem to straigthen the frame to its original dimensions without losing any strength or reliability. So unless there is a nuclear blue 98 S1WL frame somewhere which we don't know off, that's what's gonna happen. Take the front end off, straighten the frame, if necessary re-powdercoat it. Front cylinder head is in stock, have it flowed, and get the thing together again. If all goes well this should not take much longer than 1 to 2 weeks. I'm keeping my fingers crossed even in my sleep! Keep u posted. S1WL Hein (a bit less unhappy) in Am*dam |
Court
| Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 08:09 pm: |
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Hein: This sounds like a GREAT solution. One problem with getting a new frame (Buell is innocent on this one) is the time and turn around to get a frame with YOUR V.I.N. Buell, and thier subsidiary Harley-Davidson, have done a wonderful job of speeding this process up. Used to be you had to remove the old, send in, new produced, shipped....yeah...forever it took. Now, they ship new and you have like 10 days to produce (by certified mail) the head section bearing the V.I.N or they charge your dealer account like $7M Geldings ...or whatever your currency is. Frame "fixing", like motor oils, has evolved light years. You, it sounds, have the best of ALL worlds. You lucky dude ~ Court |
Chuck
| Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 01:50 am: |
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Hein, while you're waiting on your frame, you might want to have your forks disassembled and checked. Newer forks have comparatively thin walls and often bend inside the sliders (I learned this the hard way) |
Hein
| Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 03:53 am: |
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Thanks Chuck, Forks have already been disassembled and checked by Technoflex! But I'll try to get a second opinion on that. S1WL Hein in Am*dam |
Rocketman
| Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 09:10 pm: |
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I now declare this year BUELL BROKEN HEAD YEAR ! YOU B A S T A R D S HAVE JINXED ME My front cylinder head has BROKEN off from the mount, whilst out riding tonight. The right side casting is snapped clean in half and the left side stud has broken in half and left its threaded section in the hole. The motor is slumped forward and down and is relying upon the rocker cover, sat on the mount itself, to hold the motor up ! Rocket in England |
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