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Skifastbadly
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 01:07 pm: |
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Seems like the info is spread all around here so I thought I'd start a thread to consolidate. Here's what I have so far: SkiFastBadly: Built July 06. VIN is 4mzdx03d873700235. Engine failed at 28K miles. Hughlysses: Built Sept 06 VIN 4MZDX03D173700481, mfd Sept 06 29K miles Desertdweller: Build date Sept 06 VIN Vin # 4MZDX03D373700532, Mileage 19K Union_man: 40K miles VIN and build date TBD Rdkingryder: 30K miles VIN and build date June 07 Towpro Jul 2006 mileage and VIN TBD Dirtbike Sept 2006 mileage and VIN TBD Let's try and limit the thread to VIN, build date, and mileage, there are lots of other threads for the tech questions. (Message edited by skifastbadly on August 23, 2011) (Message edited by skifastbadly on August 23, 2011) (Message edited by skifastbadly on August 23, 2011) (Message edited by skifastbadly on August 23, 2011) |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 01:14 pm: |
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Mine failed at approximately 29k miles. |
Jomartijr
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 04:23 pm: |
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Something that needs doing for sure and thanks for stepping up. My 2007 bike hasn't failed- I just mentioned my reason for being concerned. |
Steveford
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 05:57 pm: |
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Is this confined to the Ulysses only, all of the 07 XBs or is it across the board to all 07 XB and 07 Sportsters? P.S. I forgot to say it, sorry to hear of the broken cranks to all the 07 owners. |
Skifastbadly
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 06:01 pm: |
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Steve, as all the XBs use the same motor, I think we should include those. I'll note the non Ulys, and come up with a better format if we start getting a lot of those. Same with sportsters. It's not my thread, I just started it, anybody's welcome to throw in whatever the feel is relevant. I'll keep the original post updated. Thanks |
Jomartijr
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 06:18 pm: |
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I'm guessing the Ulys get more miles put on sooner from being used as a sport tourer and commuter than the other XBs so are more likely to exhibit the failure within 3-4 years from new. For sure all XBs should be included. |
Rdkingryder
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 07:57 pm: |
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Craig, my build date is Jun '07, probably the latest with the problem. Hmm, I shouldn't be so happy about that. |
Steveford
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 08:20 pm: |
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Nallin Racing just educated me over on the XLforum and the XL cranks are different so that wouldn't apply. I was hoping they would be the same; not to wish misfortune on Sportser owners, it would be the only way you could get H-D to even think about addressing the problem. Sorry to hijack your thread. A spreadsheet is in order for this one. |
Desertdweller
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 09:58 pm: |
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My Vin # 4MZDX03D373700532 |
Towpro
| Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:33 pm: |
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skidfastbadly, I don't know who owns mine now but it had around 6K miles when I sold it 1 year ago. (crank was still good). It went to some HD dealer in SE PA (the dealer I traded it to sold it wholesale to another dealer) I just hang around because you folks are the most civil group I have ever found on the internet |
Teeps
| Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 09:51 am: |
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Steveford Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 I was hoping they would be the same; not to wish misfortune on Sportser owners, it would be the only way you could get H-D to even think about addressing the problem. H/D address the problem? Really? So far failed bikes are all out of warranty. The brand is discontinued. The question is: does H/D have any motive to help, beyond selling parts, to repair the engine? Look at the wheel bearing fiascoes. The answer: buy a 2010 wheel. |
Buewulf
| Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 10:03 am: |
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You may want to post an inquiry on the XB board as well if you have not already done so. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 02:09 pm: |
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Correction on my VIN and Build date... I do not have any discernable crank problem at 18k miles. So the new total is:
quote: SkiFastBadly: Built July 06. VIN is 4mzdx03d873700235. Engine failed at 28K miles. Hughlysses: Built Sept 06 VIN 4MZDX03D173700481, mfd Sept 06 29K miles Desertdweller: Build date Sept 06 VIN Vin # 4MZDX03D373700532, Mileage 19K Union_man: 40K miles VIN and build date TBD Rdkingryder: 30K miles VIN and build date June 07 Towpro Jul 2006 mileage and VIN TBD Dirtbike Sept 2006 mileage and VIN TBD Reepichep: (no failure) 18k miles, build date June 07, VIN X-01332
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Marks3tbillet
| Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 08:33 pm: |
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My 2007 Built Jun 07, VIN #4MZDX03D973701359, Mileage 18K, no problems to date. |
Rdkingryder
| Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - 11:47 pm: |
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I'm wondering if there's a way to find out the engine build date. I would think this is more important than the frame/assembly date. If an older engine is put into a later frame, like mine. I can see a particular engine build date being a problem of a bad crank batch. Or maybe the guy making that crank then was new or something. New guy, "Oh, you mean crank pins are supposed to be hardened? Uh, no I haven't made any yet." |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 09:05 am: |
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EG's son's 07 ULY. Build date May 07, 15,000 miles. No problems. |
Jomartijr
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 12:11 pm: |
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My bike- 2007 Uly, build date June 2006, 6281 miles, VIN 4MZDX03D673700041. No crank issues that I know of but then that low miles is way out of the population of "knockers". |
Davegess
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 12:43 pm: |
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I doubt there is much difference between engine build date and bike build date. They ran these pretty close together as the cot of storing a $2000 engine would really mess up your profits. |
Easttroy
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 01:23 pm: |
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Sorry those of you with an '07 that are having this issue (or unsure of whether you will). This is exactly why I paid 1600 for my extended warranty. Some will say "Too damn much" but I guess when it's 4500 for a new motor, I say it's a good bet, even though I have an '09. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 01:27 pm: |
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Please update or correct as you see fit, but keep the format.
quote: Handle, Build Date, VIN, mileage, failure SkiFastBadly, July 06, 4MZDX03D873700235, 28k miles, crank failure Hughlysses, Sept 06, 4MZDX03D173700481,29K miles, crank failure Desertdweller, Sept 06, 4MZDX03D373700532, 19K, crank failure Union_man, ???, ???, 40K miles, crank failure Rdkingryder, June 07, ???, 30K miles, crank failure Towpro, Jul 2006, ???, ???, crank failure Dirtbike, Sept 2006, ???, ???, crank failure Reepicheep: Jun 07, *01332, 18k miles, no crank problems Marks3tbillet, Jun 07, 4MZDX03D973701359, 18K miles, no crank problems EGssons07uly, May 07, ???, 15k miles, no crank problems Jomartijr, Jun 2006, 4MZDX03D673700041, 6281 miles, no crank problems
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Skifastbadly
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 01:52 pm: |
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Thanks for the reformat, I've tried to correct the original post but am informed that posts older than 2160 minutes cannot be edited. Bit of a pain...I'll see if I can find a work around. (Message edited by skifastbadly on August 25, 2011) |
Buewulf
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 02:12 pm: |
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I would reserve your list for failures only. There is also value in keeping up with the "non" failures, but keep it on a separate list. My .02. Just the few failures you have indicates there was obviously a problem. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 02:58 pm: |
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Ski, just cut and paste it to a new post with your browser, and change what needs to be changed. My plan was to keep the whole list together, but make it so we can sort on failed versus fine. Just putting up the bad crank cases leads people to amplify the scope of the problem. You look at it and say "holy smokes! 8 crank failures in one year". Where if you saw 3000 entries, and 8 crank failures, it give a whole different perception. We are just gathering data now. When the list gets too big, we can move it to something easier to manage. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 02:08 pm: |
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Updated to reflect that towpro did NOT have a crank failure. Updated to sort by build date
quote: Handle, Build Date, VIN, mileage, failure Jomartijr, Jun 06, 4MZDX03D673700041, 6281 miles, no crank problems SkiFastBadly, Jul 06, 4MZDX03D873700235, 28k miles, crank failure Towpro, Jul 06, ???, ???, no crank problems Hughlysses, Sept 06, 4MZDX03D173700481,29K miles, crank failure Dirtbike, Sept 06, ???, ???, crank failure Desertdweller, Sept 06, 4MZDX03D373700532, 19K, crank failure EGssons07uly, May 07, ???, 15k miles, no crank problems Rdkingryder, Jun 07, ???, 30K miles, crank failure Reepicheep: Jun 07, 4MZDX03D973701332, 18k miles, no crank problems Marks3tbillet, Jun 07, 4MZDX03D973701359, 18K miles, no crank problems Union_man, ???, ???, 40K miles, crank failure
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 02:21 pm: |
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Lets try it as a table:
| Handle | Build Date | VIN | mileage | failure | Jomartijr | Jun 06 | 4MZDX03D673700041 | 6281 miles | no crank problems | SkiFastBadly | Jul 06 | 4MZDX03D873700235 | 28k miles | crank failure | Towpro | Jul 06 | ??? | ??? | no crank problems | Hughlysses | Sept 06 | 4MZDX03D173700481 | 29K miles | crank failure | Dirtbike | Sept 06 | ??? | ??? | crank failure | Desertdweller | Sept 06 | 4MZDX03D373700532 | 19K | crank failure | EGssons07uly | May 07 | ??? | 15k miles | no crank problems | Rdkingryder | Jun 07 | ??? | 30K miles | crank failure | Reepicheep | Jun 07 | 4MZDX03D973701332 | 18k miles | no crank problems | Marks3tbillet | Jun 07 | 4MZDX03D973701359 | 18K miles | no crank problems | Union_man | ??? | ??? | 40K miles | crank failure | |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 02:24 pm: |
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OK, that displays nice, but is hard to manage. From here on I'll do it this way: First the table version:
| Handle | Build Date | VIN | mileage | failure | Jomartijr | Jun 06 | 4MZDX03D673700041 | 6281 miles | no crank problems | SkiFastBadly | Jul 06 | 4MZDX03D873700235 | 28k miles | crank failure | Towpro | Jul 06 | ??? | ??? | no crank problems | Hughlysses | Sept 06 | 4MZDX03D173700481 | 29K miles | crank failure | Dirtbike | Sept 06 | ??? | ??? | crank failure | Desertdweller | Sept 06 | 4MZDX03D373700532 | 19K | crank failure | EGssons07uly | May 07 | ??? | 15k miles | no crank problems | Rdkingryder | Jun 07 | ??? | 30K miles | crank failure | Reepicheep | Jun 07 | 4MZDX03D973701332 | 18k miles | no crank problems | Marks3tbillet | Jun 07 | 4MZDX03D973701359 | 18K miles | no crank problems | Union_man | ??? | ??? | 40K miles | crank failure | | Then the edit version: Handle, Build Date, VIN, mileage, failure Jomartijr, Jun 06, 4MZDX03D673700041, 6281 miles, no crank problems SkiFastBadly, Jul 06, 4MZDX03D873700235, 28k miles, crank failure Towpro, Jul 06, ???, ???, no crank problems Hughlysses, Sept 06, 4MZDX03D173700481,29K miles, crank failure Dirtbike, Sept 06, ???, ???, crank failure Desertdweller, Sept 06, 4MZDX03D373700532, 19K, crank failure EGssons07uly, May 07, ???, 15k miles, no crank problems Rdkingryder, Jun 07, ???, 30K miles, crank failure Reepicheep, Jun 07, 4MZDX03D973701332, 18k miles, no crank problems Marks3tbillet, Jun 07, 4MZDX03D973701359, 18K miles, no crank problems Union_man, ???, ???, 40K miles, crank failure |
Harleywern
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 04:24 pm: |
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Thank God mine is build in October. No cases so far. After the accident with the King, the Uly babe is my bike to rely on. European Bike Week is coming soon. Except for a rusted muffler and a loosening seat cover, the bike was without any trouble. Not to mention the stunts the mechanics at the dealership pulled. As my friend used to say: bring your vehicle to a workshop and you might as well junk it |
Ksc12c
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 06:28 pm: |
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Build date Jan 06 33k miles no crank failure |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:53 pm: |
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thanks ksc!
| Handle | Build Date | VIN | mileage | failure | Ksc12c | Jan 06 | ??? | 33k | no crank problems | Jomartijr | Jun 06 | 4MZDX03D673700041 | 6281 miles | no crank problems | SkiFastBadly | Jul 06 | 4MZDX03D873700235 | 28k miles | crank failure | Towpro | Jul 06 | ??? | ??? | no crank problems | Hughlysses | Sept 06 | 4MZDX03D173700481 | 29K miles | crank failure | Dirtbike | Sept 06 | ??? | ??? | crank failure | Desertdweller | Sept 06 | 4MZDX03D373700532 | 19K | crank failure | EGssons07uly | May 07 | ??? | 15k miles | no crank problems | Rdkingryder | Jun 07 | ??? | 30K miles | crank failure | Reepicheep | Jun 07 | 4MZDX03D973701332 | 18k miles | no crank problems | Marks3tbillet | Jun 07 | 4MZDX03D973701359 | 18K miles | no crank problems | Union_man | ??? | ??? | 40K miles | crank failure | | (cut and paste copy) Handle, Build Date, VIN, mileage, failure Ksc12c, Jan 06, ???, 33k, no crank problems Jomartijr, Jun 06, 4MZDX03D673700041, 6281 miles, no crank problems SkiFastBadly, Jul 06, 4MZDX03D873700235, 28k miles, crank failure Towpro, Jul 06, ???, ???, no crank problems Hughlysses, Sept 06, 4MZDX03D173700481,29K miles, crank failure Dirtbike, Sept 06, ???, ???, crank failure Desertdweller, Sept 06, 4MZDX03D373700532, 19K, crank failure EGssons07uly, May 07, ???, 15k miles, no crank problems Rdkingryder, Jun 07, ???, 30K miles, crank failure Reepicheep, Jun 07, 4MZDX03D973701332, 18k miles, no crank problems Marks3tbillet, Jun 07, 4MZDX03D973701359, 18K miles, no crank problems Union_man, ???, ???, 40K miles, crank failure |
Bking
| Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 12:04 am: |
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Apr 07. 19k miles. No crank problems. |
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