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Fasted
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i am currently searching the knowledge vault, but time is not on my side....the moto has:
charged battery
tight, clean, grounds
secure,clean positive and negative battery cables

bridging hot starter post with the solenoid results in fast, free spinning motor, but no pinion activation to turn motor over
pressing starter button on handlebar (with ignition switch on run) activates the relay under the seat, but no click or other sound from the starter, and no fluctuation of the headlight
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Solenoid?

What is battery voltage?

Full charge on healthy battery is 12.7 V. Service manual in Knowledge Vault provides detailed troubleshooting guide.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Link to 1997/1998 Buell S1 Lightning service manual...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/Manuals/S1_1 996-1997_Service/intro.pdf

Click on "Electric Starter" then "Troubleshooting".

Also applicable to your M2 Cyclone. : )

Prior to this problem, what if anything was done to the bike?
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Buell_bert
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey there. Did you try swapping the relays?
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5liter
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a push button cover on my starter solenoid just in case.
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Fasted
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the thoughts, info, and link. turns out that a snagged cable tie caused the starter wire connection to pull apart enough to interrupt current.....
we had a buddy who is a moto mechanic come check it out....he looked at the bike, pulled out his pocketknife, cut two cable ties, pushed the starter wire connectors together, and started the bike.....30 seconds, tops...............
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Blake
Posted on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gotta love a buddy like that! Thanks for the follow-up! : )
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Fasted
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very knowledgeable buell mechanic..."nothing like someone who knows all of the common problems related to the breed..I'm still learning
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