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Gunslinger
Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 2000 Cyclone. I am still using the stock airbox. Frankly I am getting sick of it. I have been trying to get my carb jetted just right, and the stock airbox is a royal PITA to take off and put back on. Besides, it has a crack starting where it screws on to the front engine bracket. So which is the best option of the aftermarket out there? I am not looking for more horsepower, just something with fewer parts to deal with. I have not decided on whether I want to go with a catch-can for the breather or just keep it venting into the intake.

Any advice?
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Gunslinger
Posted on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does the Arlen Ness Big Sucker stage II work? It is reasonably priced and seems pretty straight forward.
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Tdman77
Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Force intake is a very simple design, but has problems with water ingestion in the rain. IMHO I think the ham cam is the best all around intake available. I was going to put one on my X1 but ended up using a S&S intake that I had laying around.
Go with the catch can! You won't believe how much crap the breathers puts back into the intake. After installing my catch can there is no way I would ever go back. I got my catch can here for cheap!

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.as p?RecID=4703
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Gunslinger
Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow. I was going to try putting together a catch-can out of basic hardware. I could not buy the parts I had in mind for what the one you recommended cost. I have just ordered one. Thanks. I will do a post once I get it and let you know how it comes out.

By "Ham can" are you referring to any of the various oval shaped units that take a K&N filter, or is there one in particular. American Sport Bike has a couple, but they are a bit rich for my budget right now.
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Tdman77
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ham Can - the race air cleaner. You can use any after market intake that is made for a 40mm CV carb. You will have to drill a hole in the back of the intake for the air temp sensor or just relocate it some where cool. I moved my air temp sensor up near the steering head just above the diagnostic port. I am using an intake that I bought for my old sporty but sold the bike b4 I could install it. It sits nicely tucked, my knee will hit it every once in a while but it doesnt bother me.

Make sure to empty the catch can b4 or after EVERY ride. I had put a small K&N breather filter on mine but with in 2 rides I was pukeing out the filter. I have since removed the filter and routed a hose down to the ground so if it does puke it blows it on the ground and not on my pants. You will also need to get 3/8 hose fittings for the catch can, it comes with 1/4 fittings.
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Gunslinger
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bike does not have a air temperature sensor. I am most likely going with the unit American Sport Bike sells. The tax man is bending me over this year, so I may have to wait a month or so.
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5liter
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have this one. http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/17005.html
Nice piece.
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Gunslinger
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, that is basically the same one I was thinking of. My bike is an M-2, so I need the 17000.
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Tdman77
Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can't go wrong with that intake from American Sport Bike. It's very well designed and really works! Make sure to get the banjo bolt kit so you can route your breather lines.
http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/5623.html
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Gunslinger
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Question. The picture on American Sport Bike shows a hole in the backplate for the breather bolt. Does the banjo bolt go through that to help hold it in place?
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Tdman77
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, it's for the air temp sensor on the FI bikes. I think they just have the wrong picture up for the carb intake. there should not be any holes on the carb model. Give them a call to make sure. The banjo bolts turns 90deg instead of straight, this gives you the room to reroute the breather hoses. The stock breather bolts are meant to run the breather hose straight into the back of the stock intake, that is why you need the banjo bolts.
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Gunslinger
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds good. One of the reasons I want to ditch the stock box is that any work I need to do on the carb requires the removal of 13 bolts/screws just to get the air-box out of the way, a process requiring no less than 3 different sized Allen wrenches, three different sized sockets, a screw driver, and pliers. I had a stuck float on the way home from work, and using the tools in my tank-bag it took nearly half an hour just to get to it, and about the same to get everything back together. With the ham-can I think I should be able to get to the carb by removing the cover and taking out the three bolts into the carb body. I would only need to remove the breathers if I had to actually remove the carb. So a max of 7 vice 13 screws/bolts.
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5liter
Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gunslinger: This is on Ebay right now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NHRS-Billet-milled- aircleaner-baking-plate-BUELL-Harley_W0QQitemZ2203 95090479QQihZ012QQcategoryZ35572QQssPageNameZWDVWQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Gunslinger
Posted on Monday, April 13, 2009 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I missed it. Bidding was already closed. Thanks anyway.
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Genesisclimber
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2011 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Best M2 intake: Stock! Keeps it quiet, keeps engine from puking on your leg, gives just the right air intake. Looks dorky, but in this case it's function over form. The race intake is OK, pukes on your leg- and stay away from that Force intake.
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