| Author | Message | ||
     Phrogg |
I bought these because everyone was saying how good they were and what not. I didn't want to spend $50 or more and sliders for this bike when I saw you could get them for less on the jap bikes. That is why I bought the eco sliders from them. I am a little more then dissapointed in this whole thing. I thought there was going to be a little more to it then a long bolt with a couple of nuts and bolts. For $42 shipped, $34.95 before S/H, I was expecting a little more. Not to mention I didn't get the "thread locker goo" to make sure might my right one stays on..... I wish someone had pictures of theres for others to see. So that is why i'm posting these pictures. For the person that is tossing around the idea of making their own or buying them. You can see that these things are not worth the money they are charging. No offense.... The delrin does have a better finish then what I would have been able to do.Yes, they will save your bike from far more worse fate then not having them. As you can see though. It doesn't take a brainiac to see how to make these. Just look at the pictures and you can figure it out from there. If you do have any questions then please ask. Nothing really special and definately not worth $42. I wish I could get my money back....   (Message edited by phrogg on April 10, 2008) | ||
| Rcontroler |
Do they have a 'no refund' policy? Sure you won't get shipping/handling back but they should give you your purchase price back if you have not mounted them yet....my 2 cents only. | ||
| Blake |
Send them to me. I'll happily pay retail for them. The slider images on Dark Horse Moto are shown clearly and in amazing high quality detail. Your lousy snapshots above don't compare. From the dismally poor blurry and grainy photos you posted, it seems as though you are intenionally trying to portray the sliders as poorly as possible. They don't need locktite. The locknuts serve that purpose. If you don't think that a high-quality set of nicely machined American-made Delrin sliders is worth $35, then by all means spend hours making your own. Next time you decide to purchase a product, I suggest that you read the description of what is included. What did you think, that sliders came with other than the sliders and mounting hardware?  Nice first post. | ||
| Phrogg |
Hrs making them???? Try maybe 1.5 hrs.... Give or take few minutes.... As far as the pic quality I don't see how having the res any better is going to make them look any better. But hey, give me your email and $43 and I we can get this show on the road. | ||
| Blake |
You are a gifted machinist if you can create your own set of sliders in 1.5 hours from scratch. Most gifted machinists earn more than $35/hr. Send them to me and I'll paypal you the $35 plus whatever shipping costs. Click on my profile to send me a PM and then I'll get back to you. | ||
| Blake |
"As far as the pic quality I don't see how having the res any better is going to make them look any better." Then you're even more of a moron than I first thought. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I'll be happy to give you $40 for them to my door also. I've been meaning to get some. PM me if you want to sell them. | ||
| Rickie_d |
Blake Great response, I like it!! These kinds of BS posts with agendas by misguided individuals really irritate me and I appreciate when the originator gets their ears pinned back BTW - Just for the entertainment value of this, I will turn out a set of AL2 sliders for you, free. Post a drawing of how you would like them to look and any specific dimensions and I will mail them to you on Monday. Phrogg You are right is does not take a “braniac” to make such a part or assembly. You are also right that it is not a great amount of time by the machinist, especially if you are set up for production and pound them out. However what you are not considering as a “braniac” or a “moron” yourself is that you are paying for the convenience of not investing in a lathe, tooling, and the time to set up, store, market and so on. I am a machinist and I personally own the tools and tooling to make much more sophisticated parts than what you are bitching about. Also, my time is worth a lot more than $35.00 per hour because of my investment(I am not a hired operator). When I get loudmouths like you in my shop, I hand them a block of aluminum and tell them to go home and take a whack at being a brilliant fabricator. I also add as they walk away bewildered, that for the pay cheapskates like you consider my time worth, I will go in the house and waste my time drinking beer and some watching ridiculous reality shows. | ||
| Blake |
The short of it is that he's only looking for something that is "made in China." | ||
| Rickie_d |
Made in China - In huge quantities for a huge market. | ||
| Skully |
Jeph - First, had you simply emailed us and asked for a refund, it would have been granted assuming that the sliders are in "like new" condition. Your purchase price would have been refunded. That offer is still valid. Second, the high-resolution photos that we link to on our web page show very clearly the quality and components included with our kits. The high-res photo for the EcoSliders clearly show the self-locking nut that does not requite thread locker. Third, we've received hundred of emails and posts from customers telling us how impressed they are with our sliders. The quality, the fit, the appearance, and most importantly, the performance. The EcoSliders are no different. We received this one just yesterday: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=17143&post=1118634#POST1118634 Fourth, on the occasion that we received constructive criticism, we have worked hard to improve the quality of our products while keeping the prices as low as possible. If you can produce the quality that we do at a lower price, I suggest that you get busy. At Dark Horse Moto, we work with our suppliers to keep the work in the United States, keeping American workers employed. I refuse to send work to China. Fifth, the sliders we produce are not universal fit. Instead of producing just one component that fits the front and rear axles, we have three unique parts! This costs us time in design, costs more to produce (individual quantities are less), costs more to maintain inventory, and, it costs more to assemble. If we took the approach that some of our competitors do, we could reduce our costs, but I refuse to sell something that I would not use on my bikes. Sixth, we use only high strength, stainless steel hardware including the threaded rod. We could cut costs here as well but in in a few months, our customers would be very unhappy as their cheap, cad plated hardware began to corrode. Finally, if you want to return the kits, please email us and we will give you a return address. Sincerely, Keith Thrash DarkHorseMoto, LLC Protecting and Propelling Buell Motorcycles http://www.darkhorsemoto.com | ||
| Blake |
"First, had you simply emailed us..." But why do that when you can contrive a public stink, reveal your own idiocy, and make an ass of yourself in public while trying unsuccessfully to malign the work and good name of others? | ||
| Buell_bert |
WOW I hope he sent them back. For humors sake (modified training wheels). I also have my own miil/lathe and has allowed me to custom make some parts. | ||
| Phrogg |
blake... I know it came across kind of the way you are saying. That really wasn't my goal for this whole thread. I should have probably went about a different way. What done is done though, and frankly im over it. I've already taken care of it with skully. The point of the thread was to hopefully give some people a better understanding on how to make their own. Like buell_bert for example. Someone that has access to the necessary tools to make them. To show people that making axle sliders isn't that hard. Also, to provide a picture of what the rod looks like, as well as the sliders themselves. Like I said, definately could have done it differently. | ||
| Retrittion |
I bought those, mounted them, love them. Thanks Dark Horse Moto for making quality product for my 12R -- something I wish other companies would do (headlight solution and mirrors anyone?).  | ||
| Rah7777777 |
Those are one of the best damn deals you will find for a top notch product for your Buell! hands down! | ||
| Marko138 |
First time I have heard anything negative about Dark Horse Moto. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
I was at cycle gear today and they had sliders made of what looked like rubber. With a bolt. No instructions don't know how they would attatch. They are $20.00. Worth the extra $ for the Dark Horse Moto that fit perfect and are designed for my xb. | ||
| Dick_stilton |
Designed in America/Made in America... by a quality manufacturer using quality materials works for me every time. We have an old family motto 'Buy cheap, buy twice' or should that be 'Buy Chinese, buy crap'. My Dark Horse Moto sliders await me at my friends house in Seattle where I pick them up later this month. | ||
| White |
If anyone is thinking about these dark horse sliders I say buy them. They fit the axle perfectly and are very high quality parts with good instructions and come with the red thread looker goop. | ||
| Dick_stilton |
I'm more than happy with Mine | ||
| Mohogger |
I used 1/2" rod and ground down nuts to center in axle with locknuts with loc-tite so the dont move and then used chrome harley axle nut covers.Will they stay on in a hard slide? who knows. but saved me when bike fell over in driveway when someone leaned on it wrong. Scuff them up and paint with wrinkle paint if you don't like shiny. Just FYI | ||
| Gunut75 |
I own a machine shop, and Im still buying mine from Dark Horse. Why? The R & D is already done! I KNOW the part will be quality. I KNOW the part will fit my bike. I could not justify the cost of making them myself. The only way I would make them myself is if I wanted custom sliders. To me, these are meant to be used! Im not gonna put bling on my scoot, if its the first part MADE to hit the ground first in a tip over. Ill keep working on my other billet parts that are NOT meant to hit the ground. $35 for a sacrificial part is not much. Call it cheap insurance. If you already have the parts, put em on. If you can find better for cheaper, put em on. Im not tryin to knock ya. I do a lot of customizing for a local bike builder. If I had to make him a set of custom sliders for one of his bikes, the cost would be well above $35. Delrin or otherwise. Dark Horse is the best I've seen, bang for the buck. Delrin dosent look great anyway, its a sacrificial part. Once you scuff it, it wont matter anyway. At least your swingarm or forks are still pretty!  |
