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Braindrain
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi all , just signed up from good ol' blighty . Been reading about chain conversions on a UK Buell site . Have to say the feedback there regarding chain conversion is mostly negative - with issues relating to lack of cush drive and swingarm clearance mainly . On the same topic some of you guys seem to have really embraced the idea . So what gives ?
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Alessio66xb12r
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 05:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the chain conversion of the english site(trojan i think) its made in Italy. i have bought one for my xb , those are the results : its not so easy to find the correct free play of the chain if you use a smaller rear sprocket than 50 (front is 21) to get more top speed , better if you put a piece of teflon or somethings similar on the swingarm ( top and bottom side) where the chain can touch it in some situation. on positive you have four different rear sprockets to change the final ratio , for me chain is stronger than belt ( i broke a belt on my bike) , less weight , less friction....for me it is better than chain .my opinion : if you are not mechanically inclined to set yourself the kit and if your bike has a stock engine with stock power you can stay with the belt , but if you like to put your hands on the bike and if you have done or have in mind to do some mods on the engine to get more power... so by it.
i hope you understand what i mean (i know my english is really bad.. sorry )
bye Alessio
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Buellboiler
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

....for me chain is stronger than belt ( i broke a belt on my bike) , less weight , less friction....

Less weight??? I just changed back to a belt drive and I can easily say that the belt is much lighter than the chain (530). If you include the weight of the pulleys/sprokets the belt drive is still lighter.

Boiler
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Jlnance
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brain - I think the major reason people go to a chain is because they feel it is more reliable than a belt and they like the idea they can cary a spare chain link with them on the road. Racers may go to a chain to achieve better adjustabilty of drive ratios, but most people do it for reliability concerns.

Most people acknowlege that the belt has it's share of benifits over the chain. However, if you ride around all the time worried that the belt is going to break, then you can't enjoy the bike. So you switch to a chain, accept the downsides, and enjoy the bike.

Personally, I kept the belt. I changed it at 22,000 miles, and keep the old belt as a spare. I have a friend who went to a chain after breaking belts. We are both happy with our decisions.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I chain conversion gives you a lot more benefit on an M2 or S1... believe me. It's a major deal to replace a belt on these specific models because there is no way to get the new belt on without removing the rear isolator. There is no removeable plate to do this on these models. If the belt breaks, even if you have an extra one, you are up shit creek without a paddle.

If you get a chain conversion, get a good one that has teflon guards for the swingarm or fab your own. It might also be a very good idea to fab up a case-saver to keep a broken chain from going through the cam case.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ain't no big deal if you have the isolator removal tool.

Al Lighton at American Sport Bike lent me his and it proved its worth. In return I'm sending him two.
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Interceptor
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

um, I am going to need one of those. Where do I find one?
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Dconstrux
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have a manufacturer/part number for a 21T front sprocket for late model '07 XB12R? Pbi doesn't list a part number for late model- need help
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Terrys1980
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2012 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

277-21T. Our bikes use the same sprocket as the 91-92 883 Sportster.
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Patayers73
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, not to flog a dead thread, but I've read everything I could find on the saintly style conversion. More power to ya if you've got the bucks for an off the shelf kit, I don't. Saintly seems like he nailed it. My question is couldn't you use a freespirits modified tensioner bracket with the grainger gear to get a bit more reliable tension? The suspension unloaded with a chain could have nasty and painful results....
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