| Author | Message | ||
     Imusuallyuseless |
I just picked up my first bike, a 2000 Blast w/ about 8,000 miles a week ago. It's been sitting for nearly two years so my friend suggested an oil change. He says he can do it in like five minutes, no problem  Didn't quite work out that way. First off he couldn't figure out where the oil drain plug was an assumed it was one of these two holes, so he unbolted both and they seemed to produce the same thick, black tar-looking liquid.  At this point i still have no idea if that was the motor oil or from the transmission since that seems to be the transcase  , so confirmation on that would be helpful. Anyway, after all of it was drained, he couldn't find the oil filler location and apparently we both overlooked the insanely obvious location on top of the bike. Finally he determined that this hole was were the oil needed to go...  so we put two quarts in there, and seconds later discover the proper location on top. Anyway my concern here is whether or not i just put a bunch of oil into a place where it doesn't belong??? I ignored my first instinct to just take it to harley to have it done, but now i'm hoping you guys can help me fix what our stupidity (possibly) broke  Any help would be greatly appreciated since i'm pretty disappointed i can't drive my new bike. | ||
| Sloppy |
STOP RIGHT THERE! Go back to the shop and order the owners manual and shop manual. All of your answers will be in there. From what I can see from your pictures, you have drained all the oil out of your transmission and have overfilled your engine oil through the timing hole plug. Instead of trying to explain what to do, go buy the books that you should have gotten in the first place and follow the directions. Make sure you get the right oil, in the right locations, in the right way. If you don't have a 3/8" torque wrench then you'd better buy one of those too because aluminum threads are very easy to strip... HD engines are completely different from Jap. engines as they use dry sump oil systems and a seperate lubrication system for their engine and transmission. Not all friends are good mechanics...  | ||
| Bluzm2 |
If I didn't know better, I'd say this was a troll. However, what Sloppy said abov eis true. GET THE MANUAL!!!!! The motor is a dry sump. The MOTOR oil is in the oil tank under the seat. It's drained via an oil line on the left rear by the passenger foot peg. It's fill under the seat via the stopper on the top of the oil tank. You drained the tranny as mentioned above. DO NOT START OR RUN THIS BIKE!!!!! YOU WILL DETSTROY THE MOTOR AND TRANNY! You now have WAY too much oil in the motor and none in the tranny. The tranny oil will be added via a cover on the left side. YOU NEED THE MANUAL to determine how much to add and where. Too much to go into here. However, there are basic outlines on oil changes in the Knowlege Vault. Again DO NOT RUN THIS BIKE UNTIL YOU HAVE THIS FIXED!!!! Good luck! Brad | ||
| Imusuallyuseless |
I appreciate both of your responses, but no i'm not a troll...just really stupid  and yes sloppy guessed correctly that my buddy is used to working on jap bikes, not domestic Anyway, i was smart enough not to start this bike and never planned to, once i realized the stupid mistake we made. His other friend that works at harley told us about the oil line by the left foot peg, so we drained all the oil from there and refilled w/new oil once again. At this point i think we're good on the motor oil side of things, just got the transmission to worry about now. Just to be clear on this though which manual do i need in order to find out how to refill the tranny, the owners manual or shop manual??? Also, since i'm clearly an idiot regarding bikes, would you suggest i just skip on the manual and have harley do it, or is the manual clearly written enough that i could do it myself??? Thanks for your help so far  | ||
| Bigdog_tim |
Shop manual. | ||
| Imusuallyuseless |
Well, i called the harley dealership today and they said the manual is gonna come out to $60 which is fine, BUT they'd have to special order it and wouldn't be here for at least 1-2 weeks. I honestly don't want to wait that much longer to drive my bike again, so i'm planning on just putting it in back of a truck and driving it over there. My question is, should i just have them refill the transmission or should i go ahead and ask them to check everything out since it's been sitting for soooooo long??? Also, the inspection sticker is expired and i'd like to know if they typically require proof insurance like they do w/cars??? | ||
| Bluzm2 |
The manual is worth every penny of the $60. Shoot me a PM, I'll scan the necessary pages for you. Brad | ||
| Justin_case |
Getting an inspection sticker requires a valid registration. | ||
| Imusuallyuseless |
Well, i took it into the harley dealership last saturday and it ran pretty well for a few days...except for the smoking. I figured it was just the oil burning off from where i let it leak on the exhaust, but it kept smoking longer than i thought it should. I finally realized that it has been leaking and that's what's been causing the continued smoking. I haven't identified the source of the leak yet, but a big spot about 5" in diameter definately tells me it's leaking alot. Anyway, i haven't driven it for the past few days because of this. As i said i'm not positive where this leak is coming from, but i have a fairly good idea that it's coming from those two bolts that we initally undid. The reason i believe this is based on the fact that the larger of the bolts appeared to have teflon tape on the threads when i removed it, but i forgot to put any back on when i replaced the bolt | ||
| Berkshire |
That large bolt is probably either the primary chain tensioner adjuster (long, has a locknut, toward rear) or the oil drain plug for the primary chain and transmission (toward front). Neither one should have teflon tape on it, but the drain plug should have an o-ring. The primary chain tensioner will need to be re-adjusted if it's been messed with. The manual recommended procedure is to torque it to an extremely low value, like 2ft.lbs. (about finger-tight), then back it off 3/4 turn and lock the nut. Most Blast owners agree that the factory recommended setting is too tight, and back it off about 2 turns, or set it using a completely different method. You can read more about this in the BadWeB "Thumper" forum. |
