| Author | Message | ||
     X1glider |
Jeff, are all those fasteners coarse threads? My Super Glide Sport has some fine threads thrown in. Do you still want to find those elusive fasteners? | ||
| Rempss |
Bob, If I remember correctly all are coarse thread, the Totally Stainless book Catalog # will tell. I am still planning to revise this with a little more info, just wanted to get a rough draft out to the masses ASAP. I will add the thread pitch and pricing. Anything else you want to see? I have a "fastener" file about 1 1/4" thick. Love to keep information at my fingertips when I need it. I will be touching base with you on the several oddballs, if I remember the shock mount are 12mm x 65mm or so, but need to be Grade 8 or better, and a 5/16 high strength x about 4" with a cap screw size head. Not everyone will need high strength in the bottom of the primary, but I have the Banke shifter so they are critical in my mind. Jeff | ||
| Skulley |
X1Glider- About your fastener connections? Uh, Ya... Years ago I was in the air wing USMC, we used some of the best bolts I have ever seen. I would like to find someone who makes the type head and apply them to my Buell. I just happen to have two samples of the bolt in mention. The head is a 12pt. with a drilled center, also safety wire holes cross drilled. The two bolts I have do not have safety wire holes. Can you locate something like these? 12pt. heads with safety wire provisions, in SS. Pictures to follow if I can get a good close up. | ||
| Skulley |
Ok! No picts allowed here. well see if it will go in the picts area. | ||
| Skulley |
picture from fastner discussion.  Note: photo moved here from Pics topic - Don | ||
| X1glider |
That one might be too tall an order unless you want to pay one or 2 off prices. They make 12 pt stuff but I don't know why the head is drilled (shaving wight?) They only seem to do safety wire for the big bolts and nuts. I guess when I said they were highly specialized, I should have said "for the turbomachinery indusrty." I'd suggest drilling for the safety wire your self. I have no idea what diameter the safety wire is anyway. I'm sure I'll find out when I take the new rider course at Cesson next month. Tell me the exact size anyway and I'll ask our purchaser to find out more. Better yet, when Jeff makes his list for me, I'll have him ask all at once. | ||
| Rempss |
Totally Stainless sells many drilled for safety wire, they may even drill to order if desired. In all of the information I researched on this, ARP is the ONLY company that makes high strength stainless steel fasteners and only in 6pt and 12pt head style. The reason I recieved for no high strength caps in stainles is that the tooling to punch the hex into that hard a head would not last long, I'm sure that would be the same case for those heads - neat though, leave it to the USMC. ARP high strength are stronger that Grade 8 steel. Seems as thought the high strength of steel cap screws is from work hardening when stamping them from rod. You might try to find those in steel and have them chrome or nickel plated. Careful of how chrome plating is applied, most fasteners loose their Grade rating when chromed unless the manufacturer of the bolt tests it after plating. All grade markings must be removed if not. Again, US and metric have differnt rule/types, all US caps are Grade 8+, metric has 8.8, 10.9 and 12.9 strengths. Jeff | ||
| X1glider |
As I'm sure you know, Jeff and Skulley, if the military will pay 600 bucks for a toilet seat, they probably won't have much of a problem spending 2k on 2 grade 8 12 pt cap screws to fasten it. hehe I hadn't really considered the tooling costs and testing afterwards for the proper strength. So, Jeff might be right in buying it in steel (1 for cost, 2 for availability) and get it electroless nickel plated. The plating is cheap, looks like polished stainless, doesn't effect the material properties and won't chip off like chrome under axial stess. I'll still ask, never hurts. | ||
| Rempss |
Or if you want the DIY route Plate It Yourself. Jeff I have used some of thier items for firearms related platings and coatings, good people, simple to use. | ||
| X1glider |
Hey hardware master Jeff! What size hex socket do the fork tube pinch bolts take? 10mm? 3/8"? I don't have this size and want to buy one. | ||
| Rempss |
Upper ones on the triple trees, or the lower ones that pinch the axle? There is also a small one on the top tree. I'll go look. Jeff | ||
| X1glider |
Jeff, the ones on the trees that pinch the stanchion tubes. Gracias amigo. | ||
| Rempss |
3/8" on the upper large ones, 1/4" on the small upper & 6mm on the lower axle pinch screws Jeff | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
Hello all, I've taken the 8 screws out of the fuel tank filler cap surround, they are stainless countersunk allen screws, but I don't have my thread guage at home (stupid me). They look like metric M5 but I can't believe they are? Anyone know please? I'm replacing the surround with a homemade item and am going to buy some stainless cap heads this afternoon if I can find out the thread. I really don't want to look a jerk carrying the gas tank in and asking if they got some "to fit this please?".  Regards and thanks. Steve. | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
Just in case anyone ever needs to know, the above screws are not 5mm, but in fact, #10 UNC (I think sometimes this is referred to as 3/16" UNC?). Cheers. Steve. | ||
| Ara |
Steve, where did you find stainless flathead allen screws??? Russ | ||
| Rempss |
Ara, Here Steve, You would be surprised how many items I take around to figure out how to make it work. For the bike some, but picture a guy at the local hardware store with a 36" tall x 24" diameter light fixture, "all I need is that screw way down there, do you have one?" Jeff You may finf them locally at a Fastenall or the like. | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
Hi Russ, I didn't, the countersunk stainless Allen screws were already in the tank when I got it. The other two tanks I have are fitted with philips style cross head screws. I am going shopping at the weekend for some #10 UNC x 1/2" long stainless cap screws, so far I can't find anything less than 1/4" diameter. Sign of the times, get anything you want in friggin' metric, but over here in the place where "imperial" was invented, you get looked at like a nutcase! And that is without carrying round a gas tank! Steve steve@ukbeg.com http://ukbeg.com | ||
| Blake |
Buell switched from Phillip's head to allen screws a few years back. My '00 had allen heads. | ||
| Ara |
My '97 has SS allen flatheads on the tank, but plated allen flatheads on the primary chain inspection cover. Ya gotta wonder. Russ | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
Hmmm, well that dates one of my spare gas tanks as a 97/98 and the other as a 2000 (large one) then! Neat to know that. Steve | ||
| Skulley |
  This handy tool lets you install blind nuts in your timing plate. Add your choice of fastner for quick access to your timing with out drilling out a rivet. I used 6-32x1/2 Hex drive bolts and safety wired them. | ||
| Jmartz |
Road Thing: Remember we once talked about Titanium bolts for the bar risers in the 1996 (only year) models? Mettec.com has started to make the 1/2 - 13 again. The actual bolt in the bike is 1/2 - 13 x 1.5 with 0 grip. Mettec used to offer the 1.5 inch length but now only sells a 1 5/8 with a 1/2 grip. The grip part is ok but the length will need trimming. Price about $12. Another company Redmist Motorsports (titinuimfasteners.com) sells the right bolt but I'm not paying 31.50. | ||
| Road_Thing |
Jose: Thanks! I'll check it out. Are there any special issues related to grinding Titanium? r-t | ||
| Jmartz |
It is an odd meal. Light as aluminum strong as steel but with somewhat of a soft surface hardness. This is the reason that unless plated with some special coating (and even so) its lifetime is limited as an axle. I have tried cutting some and it is tough to accomplish with a hacksaw. I'm pretty sure they grind ok. For this particular application only 1/8 or less needs to be removed. | ||
| Tripper |
JMartz: move in date is 11/25. Will you have the 999 by then? DaveT | ||
| Blake |
 Ti is as light as Al and as strong as steel? Careful JM, you'll get me to looking up densities and tensile strenghts in my Materials Handbook.  | ||
| Jmartz |
Don't worry Blake, when dealing with Mettec you can rest assured the application will work. While, if I coiuld afford it, I would use as much Ti as possible, all I want to replace are those offensive riser bolts on '96 S1's. | ||
| Jmartz |
Daytripper: Welcome to Republican controlled GA..........! The days of the mandatory lid are numbered. A modification bill is already being crafted. The old Athens dealership is now a mile from my house. I spied a regular 999 on the floor on Sunday (store was closed). I need to sit on it to see if the ergos suit me. If I proceed down that road I will need to get the S since I'm not coveting Mg wheels forever. The S has a few more ponies, supposedly. The old S1 is under reconstruction. Top end, trans and electrical system. Waiting for parts and tools. I actually renewed the registration in anticipation of the 100th. It wouldn't be too cool to ride around Milwaukee on a Duc. Lets get together when you resettle. The former owner (of your S1(w)) is renovating his house. I am also but so slowly you would not notice it. | ||
| Blake |
JM, Not saying it won't work. Just questioning your statement that Ti is as light as Al and as strong as steel. |
