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Bluelightning
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 01:30 pm: |
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Anyone know where I can get a larger counter shaft sprocket? I know that by going to a slightly larger sprocket, I will loose low end torque, but as my bike puts out 108 ft/lbs at the rear wheel, I don't think that it will affect me that much. I just want to get a little more top end and keep it hidden in the process. |
Davefl
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 02:11 pm: |
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Just get a 29 tooth sprocket from your dealer or one of the sponsors. Stock on some Sportsters and maybe S2's as well. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 02:13 pm: |
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The "TUBE FRAME BUELLs" can run the same COUNTER SHAFT SPROCKETS as the SPORTSTERs do ... Got one for my BUELL from some supplier, BUT can not remember which one ??? Shop around for the largest and buy it as it like puting in a SIX SPEED(econo model) ... In BUELLing LaFayette |
Xldevil
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 04:09 pm: |
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A 29 tooth sprocket is standard on AUS.,ENG.,EUR. tubers. P/n is 40205-95 Ralph |
Bluelightning
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 05:32 pm: |
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I know that there is a 29 tooth front pulley available for the secondary drive. What I need is a countershaft sprocket, which is for the PRIMARY drive. As a few of you heard my bike at Lavale, the extensive motor work with the stock ratios I end up with gobs of torque and HP. I am willing to loose some of that to get just a bit more on top, where I run out of rpms (7k rpms gets there quick!!), so by changing the countershaft sprocket on the engine (not the tranny) I decrease the torque output slightly, but theoretically I increase the top end mph. This is just for testing and playing around purposes anyways. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:57 pm: |
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Some aftermarket supplier makes a 30 !!! In BUELLing |
Firemanjim
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 01:58 am: |
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And a 29 came on the S-2's and on some S-3's. |
Panic
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:42 am: |
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The countershaft sprocket on the engine? There is no sprocket on the countershaft, in the primary or transmission. The sprocket on the engine is called... (wait for it) the engine sprocket. Loose low end torque? No, it reduces all torque. If you're going to use technical terms - try to know what they mean first. (Message edited by panic on January 19, 2006) |
Buellistic
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:06 am: |
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STAY ON THIS "BOARD" AND LEARN !!! Countershaft sprocke(called SPROCKET,transmission in PARTS BOOK) works on TRANSMISSION MAINSHAFT ... Engine sprocket(called so is PARTS BOOK) is on flywheel shaft on left side of engine ... In BUELLi ng LaFayette |
Panic
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:09 am: |
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Learn? I worked for H-D in 1983 - what were you doing then? One more time - there is no sprocket on the countershaft. |
Bluelightning
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:01 pm: |
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Panic, First off, you comments opinions are not needed or warranted!! Second, I never said that I would only loose low end torque. I know that I will decrease my overall torque output and have accepted that for my purposes. Finally, for the term of the sprocket, I have heard it called a "countershaft sprocket" as well as the simple term of "engine sprocket". Either way everyone that has been replying knew exactly what I have been looking for, so again your smart a** comments are neither desired nor appreciated. Go to some looser squid board if you desire to start a flame war!! Thank you very much!! |
Jayvee
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:10 pm: |
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But back to the stated intention, wouldn't changing the front pulley of the secondary drive accomplish the same thing? And easier to install? |
Bluzm2
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:36 pm: |
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The countershaft rotates the opposite direction of the drive shaft and in our motors case, the crank shaft. Hence the prefix "counter". The countershaft lives in the transmission, not in the primary case. |
Sarodude
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:58 pm: |
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The cute thing about changing primary ratios is that your speedo stays accurate. You're changing the engine RPM / tranny RPM relationship as opposed to the Tranny RPM / wheel RPM relationship. Mostly the same end result. Dunno if the speedo bit matters to anyone or not. -Saro |
Buellistic
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 01:58 pm: |
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Panic: My mistake, should have typed mainshaft ... Can't we all just get along !!! Harley-Davidson University clsss of 1959 ... In BUELLing LaFayette |
Buellistic
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 08:53 pm: |
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Panic: "i" am confused now ??? In BUELLing LaFayette |
Panic
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 08:14 am: |
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Why confused? Our "moderator" has, as usual, deleted my post (in which I complained of being abused, but without resorting to profanity), while leaving the abusive post (rude personal attack containing profanity) untouched. Business as usual. I don't think I want to provide any more factual information - at least not here. |
Zoar
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 09:22 am: |
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Here is what u are looking for!! They are pricey but have a wide range and I have never seen anyone else that makes them. Bandit machine has maybe 1 different than stock..hope this helps http://www.billetusa.com/evoindex.html (Message edited by zoar on January 20, 2006) |
Bluelightning
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 11:49 am: |
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Zoar, that is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. Sarodude, You hit the nail right on the head about the speedo staying accurate, hence the reason I want to change the "engine sprocket" as opposed the the tranny output sprocket. It is a bit more of a pain to change out, but saves you from that ticket when you are cruising and forget to do the math in your head later on deal. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 05:12 pm: |
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"i" think you will find that the ENGINE SPROCKET is actually the front rear drive sprocket which is called the countershaft sprocket although it runs off the mainshaft ... Sounds like a lot of "BUELLschitte", but "i" think you will find out that's the way it is !!! In BUELLing LaFayette |
Panic
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 06:46 pm: |
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No, the engine sprocket is an engine sprocket. How to tell? Only the primary uses triple-row chain. Only... No, I think I'll wait and see what happens. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 08:55 pm: |
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Call the supplier and get them to define !!! |
Bigdaddy
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 09:24 pm: |
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Some great information on this thread! Word of advice to all that read the technical threads: If Buellistic gives tech advice you should cut and paste his comments into a self-made tech manual for your Buell. His accuracy is dead-nuts on -- I've never met him and we've never spoke, but I do have the vast majority of his technical posts saved. LaFayette, Thank you. G2 |
Matty
| Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 02:02 am: |
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Only the primary uses a triple row chain? Touche... } |
Zoar
| Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 02:38 am: |
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Post a pic of the chain u use.....and when did the XB's get the cassette tranny? (Message edited by zoar on January 21, 2006) |
Panic
| Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 08:55 am: |
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Get over yourself. The exact statement remains correct as posted, and referred specifically to the pictures on the linked site for an engine sprocket. Or would you mind taking a moment out of your busy schedule and explaining which drive chain is triple row? |
Buellistic
| Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 09:52 am: |
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It's either a SPORTSTER ENGINE in a XB frame or XB(R) RACING case's ??? WHO IS THE SUPPLIER ON THE FORK BRASE ??? |
Skyguy
| Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 11:36 am: |
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I want the forks from the bike in the picture! I wonder how much sperm I will have to sell to afford them........ |
Jpxb9
| Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 11:54 am: |
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Just have a look on the fork, it's a Ohlins ( the best for forks and absorber !) steering damper too (Message edited by jpxb9 on January 21, 2006) |
Buellistic
| Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 01:09 pm: |
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YOU'LL are missing the TRAP DOOR(ACCESS DOOR,ASM.,transmission) as BLAST/XB Models do not have this ??? |