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Jeffl
Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bought the quest tank bag Boz had for sale in the classifieds. Cool bag.

Thanks Boz! Got it today.

Question: What is the 'Correct' way to mount the front strap? I've figured out a few ways to do it but none of them appeal to me. I'd like to be able to remove just the bag and leave the front mounting strap 'attached' somehow so that it would then be safe to ride the bike without the bag if I want to.

Thanks!
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Dana
Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Henrik,

I'm curious about your Pro-Pad implant in your seat. Did you use the stock covering and carve out some seat foam?

Any lines on a seat maker?

Dana
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Henrik
Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dana: I pulled the staples out of the stock seat pan and pulled the stock covering off. I used a marker and tape measure to draw out where and how much I needed to cut. Then, using an electrical carving knife and an electrical drill with a sanding drum I carved out a cavity matching the ProPad that I'd cut to a shape that would fit well within the seat.

ProPad recommends using 3M extra strong spray adhesive to keep the pad in place. They also sent me a piece of thin foam/fabric covering to glue on top of the stock seat foam and ProPad. I glued that covering on top of everything, cut the covering to shape and glued the stock cover on. I had an upholstery shop staple the stock cover back on the seat pan.

Of course ProPad will do all of this for you for a price. As far as top notch seat customizers, Sargent have got a good reputation.

Henrik
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Jim_Sb
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, Here is a picture of the deep lid I bought for my S2 that does not fit. I have shown it resting on top of the base - if you look closely you can see the areas of over (and under) lap.

The right side deep lid was white and fit nicely. This lid, the left side, had "right side" hardware. I removed the "right side" hardware and put on left side hardware but she still has problems. 1) The hardware is in the wrong place for it to have any chance of fitting. 2) Even if the hardware were properly mounted the lid is significantly out of shape enough that I do not believe it will work.

Is this an S2 lid? Based upon your "production tolerance" comment it may in fact be an S2 lid. See the pronounced curve in the base of this lid? Any suggestions on how I can make this unit operational?

Right Saddlebag

Jim in Santa Barbara - with 1 working deep lid..
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Al_Lighton
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeff,
I don't know about the "correct" way top mount the strap, I never loked at the instructions (bought used). But I wrap mine around the front top tubes welded to the headstock just in front of the tank, feed them thru the plastic end sewn onto the strap, and then pull it tight. Then feed the plain end of the strap thru the buckle thingies. When I'm not using the bag, I just tuck the buckles in under the tank in the front. They always seem to stay just fine, have never lost a buckle or had them interfere with steering or anything. Let me know if you need a picture.

Al
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Grndskpr
Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is my great idea to put narrow lids on my 98 s3t, but i ended up with s2 lids(i thought they were the same) but they just dont fit the inner part of the bags, do s1 inners fit the s3???
does anyone want to trade s1 narrow lids for narrow s3 lids(amazon green) new paint or are there other ideas out there???
guess i am off to ebay again
Roger
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Grndskpr
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone have the part number for the narrow saddle bag lids(not the kit just lids) for a 98 st3??
thanks
Roger
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Court
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roger:

What color ?
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Court
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bag narrow bag lid PN for 1998 S3 in, primer, is Z0723.EPMD.

This is for a pair.

The price is $244.00
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Grndskpr
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Court, if you have time could you look up the # for amazon green? And 244 dosnt seem to bad, but with paint what do they go for??
thanks again for the help
Roger
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Grndskpr
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forget it court, no need to waste time, i found it, but its odd that the primer covers come in sets, yet the green needs to be purchased r side ans l side
dosnt matter i think i will be ordering in the morning
roger
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Snowm2an
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool wat !!
Koffers aan M2
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S3dave
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Snowm2an..are those Givi bags or?? Are there mounting brackets, or did you have to make them???
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Ocbueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm,
Those bags would look mighty fine on my black X1.
Lets have some details.
SteveH
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Snowm2an
Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

C:\Mijn documenten\Mijn afbeeldingen\koffers
C:Mijn documentenMijn afbeeldingenkoffersvrij kniperlicht.JPGvrij kniperlicht.JPG
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Snowm2an
Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Opdate
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Snowm2an
Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

C:\Mijn documenten\Mijn afbeeldingen\koffers
C:Mijn documentenMijn afbeeldingenkoffersvoetsteun.JPGvoetsteun.JPG
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Snowm2an
Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wie wil dit vertalen ????!!!!
Beste Amerikaanse vrienden,lezen in het engels is heel wat anders dan zelf wat schrijven,en in dat laatste ben echt heel slecht.
Deze koffers zijn goedkope
topkoffers van een postorder bedrijf.
Ik wil ze monteren zonder de knippelichten te verplaatsen zie de foto.
Daardoor blijft er niet genoeg plaats voor de duovoetsteun zie foto.
En inderdaad het rek is zelf gemaakt.

gr:Gert.
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S3dave
Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

....ok....
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Hans
Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 02:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Snowm2an`s message, somewhat free translated:

Dear friends, maybe somebody can translate as my English is just enough to follow the threads, but too poor to write.
On the pics, inexpensive, mail ordered hardcases.
The rack is home made. Has anybody a better idea to fix them, without replacing the lights, but to make the passenger footpegs functional again?
Regards, Gert

Hans.

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Snowm2an
Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mounting brackets home-made.
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Snowm2an
Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 04:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

C:\Mijn documenten\Mijn afbeeldingen\koffers C:Mijn documentenMijn afbeeldingenkoffersrek.jpgrek.jpg
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey snowm2man... very nice.

I was in Germany visiting a friend (from another motorcycle list) and he took me to the "Louis" store in Regansburg. Very neat, great prices and great stuff. I came back with luggage stuffed full of things from there.

We stopped by the Harley / Buell dealer there on the way back, and there was not a single Buell in the shop. Great country for a Buell there, great roads.

We then stopped by another place half way back, and the guy I was with bought a Cagiva Raptor. Awsome bike, you Germans get all the great motorcycles!

Would your passenger have enough room for their legs even if you did get the pegs back on? It looks like there would not be much space for them with the location of those bags.

Bill
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Snowm2an
Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Bil.
No the passenger wil not have enough room for their legs even if i get the pegs back on.
The pegs back on is not a problem.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you trying to get more room for the rider's feet, or trying to make room for the passenger to be able to ride as well?

Either way, it does not look like there is much room left, and I imagine T.U.V. would not like you relocating the signals

The tail lights come off pretty easily, and Louis (the same place you got the bags) had cheap turn signal assemblies. You could probably build a set of the turnsignals INTO the bags and rig up a quick disconnect bayonet type connector for the electrics. They would probably work well, but getting them past TUV would be a another problem.

Anyone else interested... I think he got the bags from louis fun factory (www.loius.de). I was at the store in Regansburg Germany, and came back with buckets of very nice stuff that was very cheap ($30 tank bags, $30 boots, $10 turn signal sets, etc). I also got (off the shelf) the Schuberth Concept flip open helmet with integrated flip down sun visor. They took my Visa card when I was there, I don't know if they will ship overseas or not. I have a contact in Germany that would probably help if any one is super motivated.
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Jeffl
Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in the market for a new helmet. I bought a large last year and, well, it's too big. I've been looking at the Shuberth Concept helmet and the Arai Quantum f. Has anyone here had any experience with the Shuberth? It sure looks cool! 'Folding' design and built in sun visor. www.louis.de has it for around 360 Euros plus shipping. (I have know idea what shipping will be from DE.) Helmet Harbor has the Arai Quantum F for $330 including shipping. I can't decide... Advice?

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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand Arai helmets are very good. I'm a Shoei man myself. Quietest helmets I've ever worn.
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V2win
Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeff,
Racerboy, over in the SLAB section of stormfronts, can give you some advise on the Shuberth. He has two of them. I like a lot of their features execpt for the noise that comes from a fold-up helmet. As always, try it on before you buy. I just sold an Arai on Ebay for more than I paid for it back in 99. Go figure.2
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought the Schuberth concept from Lois on my visit to Germany. I can best compare it to my previous flip front, a Nolan N100(?) Trend.

The Schuberth is a much better fit, even when sized right, the Nolan felt like the top of a golfball was being pressed into the front and center of my forehead. The Schuberth is very tight all around, but very comfortable (which I suspect significantly improves safety).

The controls work well, one hand release on the lid. It is probably quieter then my Nolan was, but not a huge difference. The clips for the chin strap are a little weird, but work fine once you get used to them (about the 5th time you use them).

It does not breathe as well as the Nolan, but that is probably a reflection of how much better it fits. The Nolan was probably loose enough that it was not totally safe anymore. The Concept is MUCH warmer in cold weather (where the Nolan leaked like a sieve).

The Concept has some sort of anti-fog coating on the inside of the visor that works pretty well. It'll start to look a little gooey if you are in 100% humidity and stopped for a very long light, but you have plenty of time as it gradually gets worse to pop open the visor and let it clear. It works well, and you don't have to worry about a plastic insert popping out into your face at speed (which my Nolan anti fog insert did). It turned out fine, but could have been bad.

The really trick part is the flip down internal sun shield. It looks very cool, and works well, but not in the way I expected. It is not so much a full "tinted visor", it only comes half way down your face max, and it is not optically perfect. You can drive while looking through it, but there is some distortion, like looking through glass on an old house. Not a huge deal, but a little distracting.

The way it really works is to put it just above your normal sightline, were it shades the sun well but does not interfere with seeing the road. This works well for me, but it seems it could have been shaped a little better if operating this way, it is shaped like a "U" and would work better straight across, or even like a slight upside down U. It will hold in any position, so you can tweak it for your sightline and time of day.

The shell of the helmet also slightly blocks just a little peripheral vision, but that may be a problem with my face :) My eye sockets are REALLY deep (cro-magnon eyebrows). It might also be the riding position on my Cyclone with the rear-sets. A more upright position would give me a little more view, these things are probably designed for the perfectly upright touring bikes. Not a real issue, as I have to do regular headchecks to really be safe anyway, but I did notice it. (Heck, with the Napolean bar end mirrors, I can check my right hand blindspot with my LEFT HAND mirror the things give such a good sight picture).

The helmet looks very nice, with a neat little ridge on the back, and darkened over reflective logos... they look VERY cool.

The helmet is nice and light as well, at least relative to the cheap helmets I have a history of buying.

Overall I am happy with it. Probably not the best helmet made, but I liked the features, the fit, and the look.

Louis was very cool btw. Wish we had one in the states. Good practical gear at reasonable prices. Obviously run by people that aren't rich and really ride, though nobody there spoke english (which is fair, it was in Germany after all)....

Let me know if there is anything else you want to know / see pictures of. The camera and the helmet are only a flight of steps away.

Bill
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Jim_Sb
Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Quote:

I'm a Shoei man myself. Quietest helmets I've ever worn.



Really? I'm gonna have to try one of those. I'll still wear earplugs but after 3 years my HJC is noisier than it used to be, although the venting, face shield, etc., all work quite nicely.

I like the idea of the "flip up" chin bar helmets for sitting at stop lights on warm days but I wonder how well they would protect one's face in an accident.

Jim in Santa Barbara
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