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Black_sunshine
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Torqer..I saw Prince when he was here a few months ago. I agree..best show I have seen and I not really a Prince fan per say.

I did a test on the plastic of the belt guard this morning. The resin that I use for the carbon WILL NOT stick to the plastic. I guess there is some petro in it. So all the pieces that I want to do have to be custom replacements not cover overs.

Torqer..my idea with the air ram of covering it instead of fabbing a new piece is nill! Shiznit!

Guess I will have to see how good I am copying that crazy contoured piece.
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Along4theride
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I doubt I'll be able to get away.
The ridge run is during the week and I don't have anyone to care for my daughter. If I had family here that might be a different story but I don't think it's cool to ask one of her friends to let her stay on school nights.

That and the whole bike thing.
There is NO way I am taking the bike I have up there and I don't know if I would have enough experience on a 'new' bike to feel comfortable going.

So unless there is a cosmic shift in the universe I don't think I'll be going.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I can not wait.
Wait'll you see the roads up there!
B_S, how about making a two piece mold, then after the parts are made, glue them together. May not look exactly like the scoop, but maybe better looking.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
The road to Linville...
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
That's an idea Glitch...you could use some sort of epoxy or actually some sort of bracket from the inside where no one would see but you. I will attempt the belt guard some time this week or next. The problem is the deep wells that the screw hole are. I figure you cannot change the depth without the guard rubbing on the belt. That would spell trouble.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Since the carbon fiber won't stretch, how would you over come the depth of pull so deep and narrow?
Could you have a hole in the fiber at the hole and have no fiber being pulled down, only the resin?
Seems like if you tried to pull that down that steep and narrow that the fiber would deform/wrinckle....not look so good.
Hm, something to ponder....
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
#2 bingo..That is my plan to use just resin and cut the fiber at the hole. Glitch...your smarter than you look!!

The problem is actually getting the inner bag to get in the hole.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Could you warm the bags up some how so they will at least stretch a little?

your smarter than you look!!
And I look pretty darn smart!
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Along4theride
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Who's heading to Cycle Gear tonight???
Michael/ Shred will be down there about 6pm with some friends.

I am probably going to make it for a bit if I can get my headlight and clutch adjusted. Apparently after Sunday's little adventure my clutch is now ten times tighter than it was previously. I was wondering why my forearm felt strained but I just figured it was par for the course from Sunday.
Then when I left my friends house last night after dark I realized my headlight in now aimed 5 feet in front of my bike. Not cool!!!
So I have some adjustments to make to be able to go tonight but I think I can pull it off with a little help.

Anyone else interested in going??
Glitch??
New12R?
It's right around the corner for you guys.
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Torqer
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
If you put the bag over something, shove in and out... in and out of the hole with the appropriate lube, you may get it to feel good... wait... I lost track.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Torqer
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I read that the tires are not interchangable from XB to XBX.
Huh? What? Why? How?
Don't leave us hanging like that!
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
torqer...mind in the gutter as usual

Actually...Glitch...heat dries it out witch makes it stiffer. Water makes it plyable with out breaking it. Its like a condom, you want it as thin as possible so it will conform to the shape but not so thin that it will break. If it breaks then you will have a bunch of carbon fiber babies runnin' around.


I am out for tonight. My grandfather is in the hospital.
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Torqer
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I'm not sure about the why... but, in the '05 P&A catalog, the new d208s fit all XBs except the XBSX. and the Syncs fit only the XBSX. I'll scan and post Wednesday. The one who should be most concerned is Shred... 'cause he just bought the wheels!}
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Along4theride
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I am out for tonight. My grandfather is in the hospital

<<<Good Vibes to him>>>>>>>>

The one who should be most concerned is Shred... 'cause he just bought the wheels!
This doesn't sound like a good thing.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
The one who should be most concerned is Shred... 'cause he just bought the wheels!
Honestly, I think it's marketing hub-bub.
From the Buell web site Dark wheels enhance the attitude and appeal of your Buell.
Fits '03-later XB models. Stock on '05 XB9SX models.

B_S: Man I know what you're going through, Ann's Grand Dad ain't been doin' too well either, that's why I've not been able to just take off like I'm so used to.
Our thoughts are with him and yours.

Edit: They just want to make sure that everyone doesn't just drop Dunlop and run to the Perellis is my guess.

(Message edited by glitch on August 10, 2004)
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Torqer
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
They just want to make sure that everyone doesn't just drop Dunlop and run to the Perellis is my guess.
You ma be right. If you look at the tires on the wheels side-by-side you can see a little difference. The hub and axle specs can be the same and rim different.Fits '03-later XB models
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Yeah I reckon, interesting though.
I'd still like to find out though.
My mind hasn't had it's fill of trivial information yet...
I guess we've accomplished "cross threading"
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Thanks for the thoughts.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
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New12r
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I will be there tonight, just a little late. I forgot that I am on the 9:00 to 7:00 this week. I will be leaving right from work to get there. Sam will be there on time I believe. See yall tonight.
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Well, sorry to say that the front belt guard was a failure!

Glitch...the undercuts and ridges were too severe and caused the resin to pool up and bubble from the excessive heat of cure. I will however attempt it again by altering the shape of the guard. I will remold the piece by taking out the curves. It will not look exactly like the factory part but that is why they call it a custom...right?

Anyway, back to the drawing board. I have to wait until I order more carbon...I used it up.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
undercuts and ridges
I was afraid of that, when I looked at it last night.
Buell doesn't even sell one for our bikes.
All they have is the upper one for the '04s and up.

Might I suggest a nice front fender, or flyscreen perhaps?
I have to wait until I order more carbon.
I'll go halfsies with ya if ya wanna make two of a couple of pieces. : )
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I will be there tonight
Lookin' forward to it.
Seein' all ya'll I haven't seen in a while.
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I don't think I could do a fender with my set up. It would be too large for my PVA bags to fit over. THe fly screen and chin faring is about my limit on size. That is why I am sticking to the smaller plastic bits as accents and not the body work. I promise I will get to the fly screen eventually. I want to work out the bugs on this belt guard first. I am not making a fly screen for me but yours could be the trial run. Doesn't seem hard at all.

The problem for me is that the ones I am fabricating is finished differently that the ones you can buy. Those have a clearcoat finish that would be an extra step if I did that. I like the raw carbon look. So, if I buy a ram air scoop or belt guard it will not match. Those little details would drive me nuts.


I am somewhat of a perfectionist w/a health dose of OCD.
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Torqer..I just got a crazy idea. I am going to try something at work today...if it works I believe I can make some RED transparent bodywork!

Yes..I said transparent. I have some plastic here and some red transfer paper that cam give a clear look (I think). If it works I can then try some surlyn. THe transfer paper only comes in red, yellow and orange. No Black (smoke) Damnit!

I kinda slow here today..Time to play.
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Along4theride
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Torquer-
Shred talked to the people with Atlanta Freestyle last night and well, I'll let him tell you about it today when he picks up his wheels but you might want to check about getting that guy you saw at the dealership, was it Bubba somebody???
Also my friend Alex, the guy who sat in with us from GSB, he got some additional leads for us on stunt local riders. Hopefully you'll remember what he looks like and can approach him Thursday. He is going to try to get on here and PM either Michael or I with the info.
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
lookie, lookie.

It is really rough but with some practice I think I can pull it off. I used Durr-plex instead of surlyn. Same effect different plastic.



You could vacuum form plastic over fly screen mold.
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Along4theride
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Will, That looks pretty cool!!!
Good job!!!
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Minitrucker
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I was talking to a buddy of mine about the ATlanta Free-style riding...but i guess not
Rodi
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