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Ustorque
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Settle down...... Thanks for the info, I'll pull it tonight. At least it will be one more thing to cross off the list one way or another.
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Scotty_j
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
How could that be it? Shawn doesn't lean his bike over enough to set it off...

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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Oh man,This is TO EASY....
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Shawn,

Noticed your post scanning down the new messages listing this morning. Geez I hate electrical gremlins like you are dealing with.

If it was the tip sensor, wouldn't you need to cycle the kill switch off then back on to get it to reset? Sounds like the kickstand safety switch issue I had with my Cyclone a decade ago, but no such switch on the XBikes as far as I know.

Might try swapping ECM (remember to reset TPS when you do) with another XB9 rider (remember to reset TPS when installed back on his bike too).
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Kickstand switches were only on the 03 XB's if I recall correctly.
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Ustorque
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I Forgotto add ECM swap to the list. I own 2, 1 stock and 1race and both run with the exact same stutter. Also another piece of info. The bike ran so badly the other day on the way home I got 80 miles out of 3 gallons of gas before reserve kicked on! How's that for fuel economy. I generally get 130+ during a spirited ride.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Blake is in the house.

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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Maybe a faulty ignition module? I think I have a spare that you can borrow to test. I'll be at NHMS next Tuesday/Wednesday, I'll have it with me if you want to come get it.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Maybe we should list every part on a Buell and go from there?
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
well the dude is getting shity gas mileage, something that was not mentioned before. tip over sensor won't do that.

But you know it all so why am I telling you.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I was waiting for you to tell us what was up. Maybe we could unplug something else and wait for a red light to come on. even if it still runs.. I'm a hack and I know it, I just seem to figure it out by accident & a little common sense I guess. We'll just Call it "LUCKY"...

But anyways, YES it would cause the bad gas mileage by the way. Thinks about it. It's like saying running on one cylinder will give you better gas mileage on a V-Twin.

Your pushing fuell into the motor, without igniting it all. Hence the "Cut out". Weather it be a bad ground, wire connection, exposed wire, sensor, etc..etc..Alot of his fuel is going out the exhaust pipe. I'd be willing to say that the AFR is WAY off also, and will continue to get worse each ride.

But this is all guess work without actually getting my hands on the thing & kicking it in the ass. We can guess till the cows come home...It's all Redundant.

How about teaching us what you would do, I'd love to learn from a "real mechanic"....
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Ustorque
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
ah i love this place, you guys always make me laugh.....now kiss and make up ya big "MO's"!

We all know it could be one of may different things and that is what sucks. i've been fighting this since early june so really i've lost my whole riding season to something completely unknown! And there is no chance in hell the dealer is gonna see this ever!!
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Thanks Shawn.. I'll be here all night, I'm just funnin with Jimmy. he knows it.

He just needs to get in the kitchen and make me a samich...

Jim's cool...He is like a chick, but has outdoor plumbing to try trick us all.

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Chippy
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
You KNOW he has outdoor plumbing? You didn't crash, he just smacked you around for draggin your teeth.
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Ok Stupes see if you can understand, I'll use small words so I don't confuse you. Someone mentioned tip over sensor, not me btw. As a person who has had an issue with it once, I know that if you remove it the bike will run normally, it will just have a check engine light on. Plug it back in, light shuts off. With me so far?

Shawn's bike is not throwing a code nor is the check engine light on, this is why I mentioned the light coming on.

Let's assume, cuz we don't know wtf is going on, that the BAS is acting up then by REMOVING it should tell you if it is bad. Right? Remove it, take bike for a ride, runs better? Yes=BAS No=Something else. I think it's underneath the seat on the S so it would take him 5 minutes to do.

Oh and I didn't suggest that it was the BAS. What I did suggest is, imo, the easiest way to diagnose it. But what do I know? obviously not as much as you.
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Ustorque
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I've already unhooked the BAS and i'll be taking it for a test ride tomorrow after work, should be quick and easy way to cancel it out, or solve the problem.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Damned, so it was my Honda that needs to be grounded...My Bad.

I'll kick back and see what Jimbo suggests next. He's on track and is good at explaining it for the mentally challenged..

Wait, wut?














And this PASSWORD thing is really SUCKING!!!
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Dude I can't keep up to you at both spots.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
HUH? you live at home with no job...

You got nothing but time... Give the kids a beer and your done for the night...Whats the problem?
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
True story.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
quote:

And this PASSWORD thing is really SUCKING!!!



It means you talk too much.

Permafix in the works, but its gonna take time.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
If I did not talk, the entertainment factor would drop off dramatically..(We actually have "Groupies" here) Then everyone would be at that "OTHER" site and this place would be a ghost town..

I'd have left long ago, but I'm pretty sure Blake wants me to stay here. I've seen the PM's from the guys to prove it.
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Scotty_j
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
There are "other" sites about motorcycles? Hogwash!

Shawn: Did you try powder-coating your ECM? It might help.

Frogface: This password thing is really annoying! It's taking .035 seconds away from me enjoying the baddest of the web.
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03worc9r
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
this wont last long...race jack point exhaust

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RACE-EXHAUST-JACKPO INT-XB9R-XB9-FIREBOLT-BUELL-06-914-_W0QQcmdZViewIt emQQhashZitem27b53b23b4QQitemZ170544276404QQptZMot orcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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Jpb
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Jim...you had a lot of text up there on that last post...I didn't get much of it...you lost me at "understand"...can you please try to use smaller less technical words?
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Chippy
Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Simple translation JP, "I enjoy putting on dresses for Eric."
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Scotty_j
Posted on Friday, September 24, 2010 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
I thought I was the only one!
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Jpb
Posted on Friday, September 24, 2010 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
He wears skirts for you, dresses for Jim and his birthday suit while roaming in front of the living room windows hoping a neighbor will be checking him out.
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Scotty_j
Posted on Friday, September 24, 2010 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Anybody interested in a big Buell patch? 11"x5", PVC backed, reflective. Will trade for 6-pack of Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA.



Or you can just have it. Whatever.

(Message edited by scotty_J on September 24, 2010)
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Blacklightning
Posted on Friday, September 24, 2010 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)
Hey Shawn,

If you're still having problems, try this. Pull and re-seat your fuel injector plugs. Take note how easily they pop off when you squeeze the plastic locks.

I had a similar problem. After hours of trouble shooting, a new o2 sensor, a new iat sensor and several stress migraines, I found the proverbial "something simple."

Turns out that the fuel injector plugs had backed off enough to become intermittent, (here's the clincher,) only at a certain rpm/frequency of vibration; and only when the engine came to operating temp. So the warm temps loosen the plastics enough to let them shake, but they only lose contact at the highest vibrations.

When I pulled the plugs they literally fell/popped off when I squeezed the locks. When I pushed them back in and tried again, they felt fully seated and I had to pull them off.

2000 miles later, the symptoms have not repeated.

Good luck
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