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Dynarider
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

20th anniversary Poster payment instructions have been listed in the quick board section. Title is poster payments.


PS...Paypal is accepted & welcomed.

Thank you.
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ray -

You have mail at your aol account.
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Tracesof
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Answer for anonymous...i'll print & paste my last e-mail recieved from you on 07/25/03 It Reads:
Ray,

It's been a couple of weeks since I replied. I hope that you have received
my e-mail. I am interested in meeting with you for a "Match."

Bill
Is this the e-mail you wanted me to read Bill, or were you referring to the prior e-mail on 07/17/03 or maybe the e-mail letter that you sent me on 07/10/03 with your "15" direct insults to me ranging from "how I have always sucked Blakes ass" to my "atrcious grammer & spelling".
Is that the e-mail you are referring to above?
Got it...
Ray Montemagni
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Anonymous
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ray,
I was referring to the following unsolicited e-mail that you sent to me:

Your attacks @ the Moderator in my oppinion were very childish...but like the
saying goes..."oppinions are like assholes, everyone has one"....and I have my
own on this subject.
as for: (Ray, you can do your "Hip-Hip-Hooray" now)

Why hide behind your computer, and give me insults? You sat next to me having
breakfest @ the Rock...I thought all was well. It was with me...and if it
wasn't, i'd have the courage to say what was on my mind directly to you.
I hope you have the courage to give me a shot like that if/when we may ever see
each other again. Maybe you just need to physically vent your inner anger @ me,
so here's just a suggestion: I instruct Taekwondo on Fridays @ Lions Taekwondo
in Indianhead Park(located off Joliet Rd & Wolf Rd) every week @ 6:30 and i'd
love to provide you the oppertunity to vent your anger with me, one on one after
class...You can be a part of my class for 1 free visit, and than after class we
can both have the floor to vent whatever anger that may be built up inside. Feel
free to contact me for directions, or any other suggestions you may have. And be
just as strong, and brave when you see me, wherever that may be. I won't hide
behind a computer. Or you can just be an adult, and apoligize...
Take your best shot
Ray Montemagni



And my initial response was:

Hi Ray,

>..."oppinions are like assholes, everyone has one"....

You just proved it yourself! (by the way oppinions is spelled opinions)

It really is none of your business what goes on between me and the moderator and I really have no cares in what your thoughts or oppinions, err…excuse me opinions are. That board is an open forum for Buell owners and I have as much right to type there as you or anyone else does. I just have a little more class than to taunt someone with misdemeanor assault through e-mail. But if you want my opinion, your grammar sucks and your spelling is atrocious.

Furthermore, I really don’t think, in my OPINION that I have insulted you in any way, shape, and/or form. Since you have always sucked Blake’s ass whenever I had anything to say on that board, I thought you might be excited that I have decided to no longer visit that piece if e-shit anymore, and gave you an opportunity to celebrate. In case you haven’t notice, those of us who actually RIDE our bikes no longer post there. It used to be fun to chit-chat with our buddies and goof off, but you Nazi bastards put a stop to all of that.

I never really liked you. I think you are rude, you always complain on rides, and when the leader is not riding fast enough for you, you always zoom out in front and haul ass well above the posted speed limits. You also always cut the fun roads short to make sure that you make your reservation on time. We know your slogan “Ride to Eat.” But just because I dislike you does not mean that I want to punch your lights out or does it stop me from having an intelligent normal conversation with you. I am a gentleman and always will be. Your verbal and intended physical assault on me is above reproach and I think that I will report it to both the BRAG Chapter President as well as the National Chapter. This is all I have to say about this at this time because I am not a little whiney little cry-baby bitch.

Since, in my O-P-I-N-I-O-N, I did not do anything wrong, I have no apologies to offer. But I am a gentleman, and if a gentleman is challenged to a “Duel,” he must oblige. I accept your offer and I would rather meet on a weekend, maybe a Saturday or Sunday since I am on the north side and I could never be there by 6:30 PM on a week night. No need to send me directions, just forward me the address with your confirmation (You might misspell something and I’ll get lost.)

I look forward to giving you my best shot.

Bill Janakos

P.S. Other misspelled words:

· breakfest - breakfast
· oppertunity - opportunity
· apoligize – apologize
· I’d – (This isn’t even a word)



In your e-mail, you invited me to join you for a showdown and I wrote back to let you know that I was accepting your offer. I haven’t heard from you since then and I just wanted to make sure that you got my letter.

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Mikej
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm thinking you two might want to take this back offline. Anony's have been outed for much less and I personally see nothing in this dialog that deems a necessary Anony-post.
=====
Hey, Blake, is the above a justifiable unveiling of this particular anonymous? Or should the above couple of bickerings and chest poundings just be deleted from the board? The calls for a showdown sound like an invitation to the back alley between the veiled and unveiled ones above.

Hope all is well down your way.

MikeJ.
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We will see how this pans out. Personally I say go kick the shit out of each other & sell tickets.

Since you have always sucked Blake’s ass whenever I had anything to say on that board, I thought you might be excited that I have decided to no longer visit that piece if e-shit anymore,

Course seeing as how he no longer visits here he will never see how ticket sales are going anyways. Oh well, such is life.
Bye Bill.
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Vwolf
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WahT? I have had a great experence at my club that has open alot of interest in letting them alone..and now I see results!keep up the good work.I Just returned home from 2 weeks in Lake Geneva with a large group of people that like Buells and Watercraft...Had the best time.I did make the trip to Pukes Harley in Kenosha (what happend to 52 st?) on 194 and was suprized to find they had turned cold and hostile toward Buells.I had a oil leak that annoyed me all the way thru 500miles and just wanted to have them LOOK and recommend and they refused?!They did not want to spend any time on it at all.Not even a look..for a weary traveler not a look..I am sorryfull..but I guess a Harley should leak Vwolf
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Tracesof
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's sounds bad George...was that Yukes H-D ???
Just wanted to pass on a Great article I just read in my Sept Cycle World Re: the 2004 XB12
It's a must read for all us Buell enthusists...
And by the way...my apoligies to both the BWB & WCB for the out of hand banter above...I'm really not proud to be a part of that.
Rememeber Club: Just have "FUN" !!!
Ray
P.S. Thanks for the Cornfield Run Brad & Andi
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Dynarider
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did make the trip to Pukes Harley in Kenosha (what happend to 52 st?) on 194 and was suprized to find they had turned cold and hostile toward Buells

Dude, havent you been paying attention for the last 18 months? Thats exactly what I have been bitching about. More money in bolting on chrome than taking care of some poor Buell owner with a bike problem.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"was suprized to find they had turned cold and hostile toward Buells"

This could/should be very interesting on August 22nd. Has anyone confirmed that the BattleTrax is still on for that day? Has anyone contacted Mr. Ukes (I forget his name) about this? Since he and Erik Buell are somewhat good friends and due to past Buell Homecomings that have had events held at Uke's I'm thinking there is some background happenings or issues that may need to be brought foreward to the upper management there. Could just be the new digs/location has peeved some of the employees, could be there was a little internal ribbing that got out of hand with the I-94 small location supposedly for Buells, and the downtown Kenosha location for Harleys and major repairs, and now the new Main I-94 location for everything (if I understand it right). Could easily have been some internal cross-town infighting going on between the employees and with the remerger of facilities it may have migrated to the customers.

Just speculations on my part, but I'd be very surprised if this "new attitude" goes all the way to the top. And if it does then it needs to be addressed at an upper level.

Oh well, enough of my drivel, bye.
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Sams
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We got 2 new XB12S's in yesterday. I took one for a ride and all I can say is WOW. Stop by and demo one for yourself anytime. Sam

Sam Scolastico
Illinois H-D/Buell
708-788-1300
Sam@ilharley.com

edited by sams on July 30, 2003
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Fly
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

will do, Sam.....if you don't sell 'em first!
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the BattleTrax IS still on for 22 August, as are a number of other activities linked to the 20th . . . . not being a shill for Uke's (who have their own share of problems), but the commitment to Buell seems the same at the top. Not having gotten service there, I'm not in a position to comment on that department.

Also, since I wasn't present for the exchange between VWolf and the service guys, I can't comment on it, other to say that everyone (including riders) has bad days . . . . . .
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, alrighty then, BadMondayDude meet BadTuesdayDude. Get out back, on the track, and ride or duke it out, their choice.
Vacation day request submitted.
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

go get em, Mike!
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I'd need new tires for that, or about 500 yards (depending on what issue you're speaking of). I'll be happy just to play and not finish last this year. Need my boots for at least another year and don't want to grind them down to my little toe just yet.

How much were your frame sliders????? ;)
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike of course the battltrax is still going on for the 22nd at Uke's and Hal's the day after.Doesn't Brew City keep you up to date???
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not about Uke's stuff, and with the way VWolf was talking it sounded like Uke's was shoving all the Buell stuff out into the gutter.
At the very least I was getting ready to throw a shovel into the pickup and head down there and pick up a little debris and spare parts from said gutter. ;)
I have seen some companies in a different product market that once were favorable to a product turn against it and almost literally throw stuff into the dumpster and customers out the door for even asking about it, so VWolf's comments coupled with a few other ramblings made me ask for more info and expansion. Oh well, take care. Are you going to have your S1 out there playing around on the 22nd at Uke's and 23rd at Hal's?
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We'll see you there Mike.
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike

I know you know this, but graphing from a limited number of data points usually results in a skewed graph . . . .

If I was the service manager, and it was a busy day, and I'd had a fight with my wife, and a guy rides in and sez, "I got this oil leak, had it for about 500 miles . . .. . .I'm from far away, and you won't get the service business, but I'd like to to take a look at it and give me some advice for which I do not wish to pay."

I'm not sure how I would respond, in so many words, but the asker would likely not be pleased, as Vwolf was not . . . . .. .

again, not shilling for Uke's, don't have anyu experience with theri service dept (except the initial service on my wife's Blast, which was done on time, completely, and for the proce agreed upon), but the management of the joint talks a good Buell game . . .. . .

for whatever it's worth . . . . ..
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