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Xbswede
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 01:04 am: | 
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"This coming Wednesday? The 29th?"
Not sure how much longer it will go. I know they had it for the last month. |
Borrowedbike
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 09:53 pm: |
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Yeah, slicks describes the feel more than the look! Rode Wed and the ass end didnt want to stay under me whne I stood up straight. Only about 200 miles on them since the sweed and I rode to the coast, but those 200 put a hurting on them! I orderd the Pirelli Diable Conti III. We'll see  how the do got the tires for $302 including shipping, just need to get them mounted and balanced, perhaps Roc will hook me up or something.
Jim, I'll get you the emulator next saturday or soon ofter if one of us cant make it. I'll ride the Blast next weekend if I must! Got it fired up today, (I'm teaching a couple of people to ride over the next weeks) and beat the hell out of it for a few miles
Later!
Paul |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 07:57 am: |
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Harley is expensive for mount and balance. Take the wheels of yourself and you should be be done in one day and save some money.
The last few times I did tire changes I would call the shop ahead of time to see what their schedule was like for tire mounting and be in and out in 2 hours.
Let me know if you need any help. We got some riding to do this Saturday... |
Borrowedbike
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:08 am: |
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I may want to borrow your stands if I can Saturday. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:32 am: |
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You will miss the ride if you wait that long. But yes You can borrow the stands to take the wheels off.
I can drop them off sooner if you want to do it in the evening this week. Paradise service is open until 7:00 pm Monday - Thursday and 6 pm on Friday. |
Borrowedbike
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 07:39 pm: |
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I wont know unti;ll UPS shows up with my tires and I'm out of town Wed Thu Fri! |
Hergy916
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:40 am: |
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Thought you guys might get a kick out of this...
Also, I successfully made a first to second gear shift while riding only on the back wheel yesterday after work. I used to do this all the time on all my other bikes, but my XB has so much torque it's a little bit spooky. |
Borrowedbike
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 01:16 pm: |
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One of these days we need to do a wheely clinique, so those uf us who dont have the balls to ride on one grow them in the safety of the group.
I also want to do a suspension clinique one of these days:
Pick a 2 or three mile route with diverse road surface and turns, something round trip that stops the same place it starts. Log the setup we each have when we show up, then baseline the bikes on factory recommendations. Ride the course, make notes on our logs. Burry the front rebound dampening, ride again. Note differences, back the front rebound dampening all the way out, ride the route again.. So on and so on...
I can make some "Log sheets" for each of us... Thoughts? I figure we can really learn the suspension on our bikes by trying this, and honestly, TALKING about what we felt after each adjustment... |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 03:51 pm: |
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Yes that way we can all laugh when bike goes down... |
Hergy916
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 02:48 am: |
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After riding to work the past couple days I'm feeling like my bike could run smoother, so I've been looking into the ECMSPY thing again. From what I'm reading on the other forum, you can do some pretty cool stuff with it. Some of the people using it are swapping custom maps via email. Anyway, I was considering the VDST from American Sport Bike, but it's not Vista compatible and I'm not sure if you have as much control with it. Not that I need a ton of control, but it would be nice to be able to reset TPS and A/F and compare stock ecm to the race ecm mapping without having to own both ecm's. Can you do all the mapping with the VDST or is it simply a diagnostic and reset tool? I guess ultimately it doesn't matter since my laptop runs Vista, but I was just curious. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 07:36 am: |
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Its simply a diagnostics tool (I have the VDST). There is a pro version that allows for some more settings but if you want to be able to tune and change maps you would be better off with Direct Link or try the ECMSpy.
With Direct Link you would be able to load custom maps or take into the dealer to run on a Dyno and tune to your specific setup. They would then save your map to a CD for future use and tweaking if needed.
I felt the same way it could run smoother. Since i commute 60 miles everyday it was really starting to bother me that it took so long to run right every time there was a 30 degree temp change from my previous commute so I bough the Race ECM.I felt the same way it could run smoother. Since i commute 60 miles everyday it was really starting to bother me that it took so long to run right every time there was a 30 degree temp change from my previous commute so I boughth e Race ECM.
I have found that the Race ECM is smoother then the stock especially with temperature and elevation changes.
I think if I had to do it again I might have done Direct link and custom map by using a Dyno to tune. After I bought the screaming Eagle Race Tuner for my V-Rod I am seeing the potential of being able to have full control of all the values. I am not sure if Direct link is as extensive as the Race Tuner but would be interesting to find out.
Rocky at Paradise has played with Direct link and could probably tell you what all it can do. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 08:01 am: |
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Jim, if you didn't have the TPS reset at your 1k service then it's due. Maybe its part of the reason it's feeling a little rough as well.
If you have a laptop with a com port I can meetup with you a little bit earlier Saturday and load the VDST and do a TPS and FA reset. It only takes about 5-10 minutes if the bike is warmed up maybe 15 if cold due to the fact the bike has to be at operating temp when adjusting idle back after the reset. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 08:08 am: |
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Direct Link Features
http://www.technoresearch.com/Products/Direct-Link/Direct-Link.htm
FEATURES & BENEFITS
· Re-flash calibrations maps via serial programming into the ECU.
· Modify front & rear cylinder fuel & spark table, etc.
· Modify Rev-limiter.
· Fuel & Spark table real time cell tracing (displays your current location on
map tables making it even easier to make a map)
· Option to simultaneously modify both front and rear spark & fuel tables
· View data using Strip Chart or Gauge/Meter format
· Data logger feature: Automatic or Manual modes.
· Alternate data capture positions: start/middle/end
· User-friendly toolbar buttons: Gauge Monitor, Strip Chart Monitor, Log View, etc.
· Logged or real-time data (RPM, TPS, PWM, 02 Sensor, etc)
· Graph/Trace color settings
· External Lambda sensor
· Includes Gas Analyzer (2 Gas) & Gas Analyzer (4Gas) software interface.
· Include Wideband O2 Controller software interface.
(Message edited by xbswede on August 29, 2007) |
Hergy916
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:50 am: |
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Aron,
Thanks for the offer, but American Sport Bike told me the VDST software isn't Vista compatible, so unless you've figured out how to fix that, I can't use my laptop. That's one of the main reasons I started looking at ECMSPY again. No, the reset hasn't been done, and I'm sure it is overdue, so I would love to get it done. Maybe I can get it to you some time while I'm working on the cable for ECMSPY.
I hadn't even thought about the Direct Link option. Do you know if you have to have some kind of "ecm key" to use it? That was another advantage to ECMSPY that I've been reading. No "ecm keys." I'm not even sure what that means. The way I understand it, some of these programs require "keys" to access data in the ecm and they can then only work with one ecm without purchasing more "keys" to tap into more ecm's. Seems a little like a money making gimmick to me. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 12:33 pm: |
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Yes Direct link just like my Race tuner I just got uses a hard key or dongle that sits between the two connecting cables. It contains the serial numbers and attaches itself to the serial number of the ECM that it is first connected to. So you will never be able to share it with anyone else or for that matter use it when upgrading bikes unless you take your old ECM with you.
If you want the most out of your bike it is really the only way unless you can get the ECMspy to work.
Even with the RACE ECM that I have I can tell that there is room for improvement. Even though everyone swear up and down that the race ecm runs richer, I don't see it. At least not with the SS and open airbox
I no longer have my laptop so I am in process of figuring out where I can get a real cheap desktop or lap top for the garage since I will need it for two bikes now. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 09:37 pm: |
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Well I scored a laptop off my work for $5. Hopefully it will work when I get it. Its an old Dell inspiron 7500. But all it needs to do is run the VDST and SE Race tuner software. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 02:33 am: |
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Paul, hows it going? Do you need the stands? |
Disturbed
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 08:19 am: |
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Well guys, I'm back. Dad is going GREAT!
Phillip, thanks for the use of the bags, came in very handy!
Work still has me on a crazy schedule but I'll be at the meeting Tuesday night and hope to get some riding in before the weather turns bad.
Aron, did you do your forks yet? I haven't had a day off since we moved into the house to do things around the house. Now I need to do my 10K mile service.
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Xbswede
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:23 am: |
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Is there already a Tuesday meeting? I thought we just had one two weeks ago?
Yes I already did my Fork oil. Once you posted you were out until September I didn't want to wait.
Make sure you use a socket for the Fork Caps. If you try to loosen it with a end wrench you will most likely deform the thin wall aluminum. had to buy a new one at $33. The tork spec is only like 23 ft/lbs or so but it took about 100 ft/lbs to break it loose. WTF is up with that?
I also used the methods posted by Saintly to compress the spring since I don't own an actual fork spring compression tool. This works pretty well but be warned it does put a small bulge on the tube spacer that compress the spring. I don't think it hurts anything since there is plenty of clearance all the way around it and the fork itself. The tube just act like a giant spacer for the spring and is made from mild steel. I would guess the actual probably would not deform the hole because it catches tube holes from both side. for a more even pull when compressing.
however it probably took me 6 hours because I screwed up my left cap. With the right tools I think you can do it in 4 hours your first time and probably 2-3 once you know what your doing and not having to double check everything.
I would also buy an extra 8oz of fork oil. I accidentally dropped one of the parts back in in the wrong order and getting back out caused me to dump some of my oil and I had to make another parts run.
But then if you can do it perfectly your first time it should be breeze.
Oh by the way my oil looked pretty good coming out at 11K miles. I think it all depends on how aggressive of a rider you are. My Vrod only requires Fork oil change every 25k.
(Message edited by xbswede on September 02, 2007) |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:41 am: |
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FYI-
My first 1500 miles running on on STD HD 20-50 oil I had no oil consumption. Once I switched to Sync 3, I started to see oil consumption especially when I had been spending a lot of time up in the 4-5 range. Not a lot but enough were I had to add some every 500 miles because it would drop from the middle of the dip stick (where I try to keep it) to just above the low mark.
About 400 miles ago I switched to Amsoil 20-50 Synthetic for motorcycles. So far I have not used any and I spent a great deal of time in he 4-5k range yesterday fro about 200 miles. (this is just for the XB12).
Not sure what you guys are experiencing once switching off of std oil but though i would share.
I don't want to start another oil discussion or BS feedback so that's why I posted it here as a FYI for us locals.
The reason I switched is because I have been reading a lot of Vrod threads. And they have had best success with Amsoil when it comes to oil consumption so I thought I would give it try in the Buell as well. Plus you can get it at Joe's and probably most motorcycle stores. Amsoil is also HD approved or at least so it says on the back of the bottle. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:52 am: |
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Jim, I just realized that the docking station with my new laptop at work has a IO port. So I went and grabbed it last night so that I could push a new MAP into my Vrod ECM. If you are still interested in a TPS or AFV I could help with it before taking back in on Tuesday.
otherwise I should have cheap-o laptop by next weekend and hopefully it will work. |
Hergy916
| | Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 11:10 pm: |
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Thanks for the offer, but I've been out of town since about two hours after getting home from our ride. I do need to get those reset badly as I found out I have more miles logged than I thought. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 11:43 pm: |
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No problem. I ended up being out all day today anyway with the family. Kids go back to school tomorrow.. YES! |
Borrowedbike
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 12:46 pm: |
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OK, Tires should be here tomorrow! Aron, can I borrow the stands tonight? I'll see if Destination can change my rubber on Wed evening and get the bike back together Thurs / Fri. Anyone have a soldering iron I can borrow? |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 01:13 pm: |
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Paul, I will be home around 6:00 pm tonight. Let me know when to swing by and I will drop off the stands. |
Borrowedbike
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 01:21 pm: |
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1573 8/30/2007 2:26:33 PM 3396 ft 0.2 mi 0:00:10 81 mph 197° true N44 59.264 W120 51.646
1574 8/30/2007 2:26:43 PM 3378 ft 0.3 mi 0:00:15 82 mph 199° true N44 59.076 W120 51.725
1575 8/30/2007 2:26:58 PM 3333 ft 0.4 mi 0:00:16 83 mph 212° true N44 58.796 W120 51.864
1576 8/30/2007 2:27:14 PM 3314 ft 0.5 mi 0:00:22 81 mph 212° true N44 58.524 W120 52.105
1577 8/30/2007 2:27:36 PM 3296 ft 0.2 mi 0:00:07 81 mph 220° true N44 58.158 W120 52.428
1578 8/30/2007 2:27:43 PM 3285 ft 0.2 mi 0:00:10 83 mph 231° true N44 58.052 W120 52.551
1579 8/30/2007 2:27:53 PM 3271 ft 0.5 mi 0:00:21 84 mph 232° true N44 57.927 W120 52.773
1580 8/30/2007 2:28:14 PM 3243 ft 0.4 mi 0:00:15 91 mph 232° true N44 57.666 W120 53.244
1581 8/30/2007 2:28:29 PM 3203 ft 0.4 mi 0:00:15 95 mph 232° true N44 57.464 W120 53.608
1582 8/30/2007 2:28:44 PM 3176 ft 0.5 mi 0:00:16 102 mph 232° true N44 57.251 W120 53.991
1583 8/30/2007 2:29:00 PM 3154 ft 482 ft 0:00:04 82 mph 231° true N44 57.007 W120 54.429
1584 8/30/2007 2:29:04 PM 3161 ft 0.2 mi 0:00:10 62 mph 232° true N44 56.958 W120 54.517
1585 8/30/2007 2:29:14 PM 3164 ft 0.3 mi 0:00:19 60 mph 232° true N44 56.865 W120 54.683
1586 8/30/2007 2:29:33 PM 3183 ft 0.4 mi 0:00:24 59 mph 232° true N44 56.695 W120 54.990
1587 8/30/2007 2:29:57 PM 3227 ft 0.2 mi 0:00:12 53 mph 232° true N44 56.484 W120 55.368
1588 8/30/2007 2:30:09 PM 3243 ft 0.2 mi 0:00:12 45 mph 232° true N44 56.390 W120 55.537
1589 8/30/2007 2:30:21 PM 3246 ft 120 ft 0:00:04 21 mph 233° true N44 56.310 W120 55.683
1590 8/30/2007 2:30:25 PM 3246 ft 28 ft 0:00:07 3 mph 234° true N44 56.298 W120 55.705
1591 8/30/2007 2:30:32 PM 3247 ft 27 ft 0:00:52 0.4 mph 52° true N44 56.295 W120 55.710
1592 8/30/2007 2:31:24 PM 3243 ft 39 ft 0:02:49 0.2 mph 220° true N44 56.298 W120 55.705
GPS track for Paul, point 1586 is when he turned the lights on. Got off with a warning!!!! |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 05:59 pm: |
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That's why I never speed...
You got lucky. I saw one bike get trailered on my way home Saturday off of hwy 26. |
Borrowedbike
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 06:12 pm: |
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Yeah, this was in the old ladys car. Thought I'd get the cuffs, but he only got me at 68, and let me off with a warning. You want me to pick up the stands, or do you want to deliver? |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 06:33 pm: |
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I can deliver. I have some errands to run after work anyway.
Would you be able to email me your address again? I remember the general area just not the street name and number. |
Xbswede
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 07:12 pm: |
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Jim, I went to Technoresearch's website and they do have Vista compatible version out now. It came out in July. It's a free download. Its the cables that cost money and I have them.
Here is a link to the software. I would test it for you but I don't have Win Vista on anything.
http://www.technoresearch.com/Downloads/downloads- VDSTS
You need the Standard version for the cables I have. The download is 47 MB or so. |
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