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Jlnance
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 08:28 am: | 
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Any ideas what plan B should be?
It scares me that I actually do. I've been doing this too much lately.
I assume the bolts have loctite on them. You'll need to break it loose. Tap them with a hammer a few times and try again. If that doesn't work you will need to heat them with a torch.
You might want to get an allen socket. It will be easier to work with than an allen wrench.
Now, it may come to pass that you wring the head off a bolt. It turns out that this is not the end of the world. But lets be optimistic and not go there yet.  |
1313
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 09:22 am: |
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Any ideas what plan B should be?
I've never had to even think about plan B as I've always used the proper plan A. The bolts have red loctite on them. The proper way is to take a torch and hold the tip of the flame right in the recessed hex. Holding the torch there for sufficient time will make the bolts come out easier than if there was blue loctite on them. And the little torch head with the small bottle of fuel (I can't remember if it is butane, propane, or whatever) that is available at damn near any hardware store is sufficient for the job. That's what I have in my tool box!
And, YES, I'd aadvise putting red loctite on the new bolts that will be attaching the new carrier. You do not need to use very much loctite either - usually a drop or two is plenty. The piece of mind knowing that those bolts will NOT be able to be easily removed (or back out on their own) is worth the extra hassle the next time they need to be removed. Dontcha think? Or think about the consequences if the bolts were to back out.
Good luck,
1313 |
1313
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 09:39 am: |
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A little help for one of our own...
Red (Jetbuilder) posted about needing a primary cover for his 12. He said that either one from a 9 or a 12 would be okay, used or not. Does anyone know where one can be had (specially in his timeframe)?
Just trying to see what a decent sized group of *organized* people can do to help one of our own out,
1313 |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 06:38 pm: |
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I went to get the Blast inspected this morning. It failed.  Not enough rubber on the rear tire. Not a big deal, I've had the replacement tires for over a month. I just need to get them on the bike.
I jacked the bike up, took off the rear wheel, and headed over to Cycle Gear. They will mount tires they sell for $20. Well, at least they will if they aren't Blast tires. Their tire machine can't deal with the Blast's pulley. They offered to mount it if I would take the pulley off, but last week Mark was telling me that was a bad idea because the pulley needs to be on when the wheel gets balanced.
So I went to Biker Blvd. They mounted the tire for me, but not quite for $20.
I got home and was convinced it was going to be difficult to get the tire back on. But it only took about 10 minutes.
The mounting system for the Blast rear brake is a work of art. It is held on by exactly 0 bolts. |
Dfishman
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 07:04 pm: |
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All you need is two tire irons!!!
I mounted 2 tires on my X1 today before I could listen to one side of The Wall. |
M2nc
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 07:38 pm: |
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Dfishman - I know I wish I knew we had a Bueller on Hatteras last month. We missed the ferry off the island going south and had to turn around and ride back the long way at 9pm. Oh well next time, welcome! |
Southern Marine
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 10:29 pm: |
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Jim, shoulda scrubbed them tires a bit before mounting them.  Be careful. |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 11:16 pm: |
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Now you tell me Donnie.
Can you balance them yourself as well? |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 11:26 pm: |
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Rubberdown - There are 2 Blasts for sale in the classifieds section. |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 11:27 pm: |
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Southern - I'll be careful. |
Ulywife
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 11:55 pm: |
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Dfishman - welcome to C3! Now we really are from the coast to the mountains!! Let us know when you're headed inland. Explore all the folders in C3 - you can find our adventures, past, present and future. Feel free to say "I'm coming along" for anything that interest you.
Kristi |
Sportymark
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 10:04 am: |
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Whats up Dfishman? good to hear from ya! |
M2nc
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 10:58 am: |
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By the way, thanks Jlnance & 1313. I will stop by the hardware store on the way home today. |
Webesblastgirl
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 02:48 pm: |
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 Well, I survived my first 'post-incident' ride. Must say I did have thoughts like "ummm last time you leaned this way you ...."
nervous, a little slow, in the beginning.. but not petrified.
Better by the time we got home. Whew! Glad the 'first' is over.
Excited to be riding again.
Ride safe and ride often.
Webe's BG
(Message edited by Webesblastgirl on August 06, 2006) |
Wes12185
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 04:51 pm: |
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Jim, what classifieds section has two blasts? One of my buddies is looking for a bike in the 0-3500ish range, and hes never owned a motorcycle before. If anyone knows of a good deal let me know here(if you send me a pm tell me to check it, I don't check that mailbox as often as I should). |
1313
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 05:58 pm: |
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Alrighty folks. It's time to get serious!
Who's in for VIR? I haven't spoken with Court yet, but as Buell (and XBRR) believers we need to have as many of us there supporting as we can. After I finally pick up the cylinders for my S2 this coming Saturday I will be in the garage and won't be coming out until the S2 is ready to go to VIR!
VIR Schedule
In the schedule qualifying for FX is Friday night, with the FX race Saturday afternoon. Taking off work early on Friday, camping out Friday night and coming home Satruday after the races doesn't sound too bad to me. Anyone got any other ideas/suggestions?
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M2nc
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 06:11 pm: |
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With Court rallying the troops, I would guess that the XBRRs will be there right? I am giving up a ride in the mountains for this but count me in.
Mike & Jim N. I am not going to be able to make the ride this weekend. I have too many fish in the fryer and can not do it all. Sorry guys but repairs to the bike and time are just not on my side. Maybe next trip to Asheville. |
Dfishman
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 07:08 pm: |
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I always put the mark on the tire inline with the valvestem..........................
Then I ride 100mph..........................
If it don't shake I don't worry about it.
I had one tire on my Kaw chop that I had to balance.The Pirelli Strada's are right on(Providing someone balanced the wheel previous)
What's up Mark?
Ulywife,
I will be heading west soon! |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 07:31 pm: |
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Wes - I see you found one of the ads. Here is the other one:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=21&post=713133#POST71 3133
That one is in Jackson, NJ. The price is good. Looks like you can get a plane ticket for $60 to Philly. |
Hotrats
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 09:19 pm: |
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1313 & all
we live about 40 miles west of vir. we plan on going to the races.
can offer a couch to any that need a place to stay. let us know....
doing some mods to the buell, hope to have it going for the race ride.
if we can help out - let us know
andy & my phuong (C3 lurkers) |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 09:28 pm: |
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Sporty - You seen the thread on manley diesels? How do you like the header studs on this baby:
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Ulywife
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 09:32 pm: |
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Hotrats - careful what you offer!! |
Zxzer04
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 10:06 pm: |
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Hi, I will not be able to make VIR this year as Aaron is having Surgery next Monday. He will be in the PICU for a few days and we are not sure how long he will be in the hospital. I would love to be there and I hope you all have fun. Larry |
Hotrats
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 10:21 pm: |
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Ulywife- we've lurked long enough. seems like everything C3 happens to the 'south' of us. this event is in our neck of the woods & we're not going to miss the running of the buells!
we can offer the basics, a couple of couches - floor - food(maybe even some cha gio & vn bbq)-beer, to anyone that wants to come by.
andy & my phuong |
Ulywife
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 10:22 pm: |
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Larry - we'll be praying for Aaron and your family during this time. Please keep us posted on how he's doing.
Kristi |
M2nc
| | Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 12:38 am: |
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I do not know why every time I try to work on something it always goes wrong. In my attempt to remove the rotor carrier off the wheel I get a torch and a new 3/16" allen wrench socket. I heat the first screw, then try to get it to break loose. The only thing I break is my new allen socket. So I regroup and start really heating things up. Time and again I try to loosen the screws on the carrier and they will not break loose. I try tapping them with a punch and hammer, no help. So I decide to really, really heat things up. I crank up the torch and let it sit on the carrier bolts. The whole wheel is hot to the touch and it starts to smoke. I try again to loosen the bolts and again no luck. So out of frustration I start to ping the carrier with direct blows from a 16oz hammer. I am marking up the carrier with about five solid hits. Jim, my hats to you, it worked. I finally got the first screw out. I repeat the process and after an hour plus and one more allen wrench I finally get the carrier off the wheel. Brankin they were bathed in lock tight. I mean the entire threads were covered plus it pushed up the counter sunk portion of the wheel up the heads of the bolts.
So success right, I get the rotor off the carrier with no problems so I am ready to start putting new parts on the wheel. I move the wheel and I hear a rattle. ???? So I look and inside the wheel, between the wheel bearings a tube that the axle must go through has fallen out of place. It is moving around loose in the wheel. As much as I try I can not get it back in place. What the >>>>>! So now I guess I am going to have to take the wheel somewhere to have the bearings pushed out so I can retrieve and relocate the tube. It just can not always be this much BS to just change out brake rotor carrier and pads. This is becoming an all out project for something that should have taken a few hours at most. |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 05:19 am: |
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This is becoming an all out project for something that should have taken a few hours
So I'm not the only one this stuff happens to.
You are way out of my area of expertise now. Time to buy beer for Brankin? |
Ulywife
| | Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 09:16 am: |
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Time to buy beer for Brankin
According to a thread on Quick Board, with beer comes no strings attached sex. Maybe we'll stick with dinner!!
kls |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 06:06 pm: |
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I'm not going there.  |
1313
| | Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 08:29 pm: |
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The center tube spacer shouldn't be too difficult to get back into place as long as it is not cocked out of position. If that's the case, something unusual happened as every spacer I've ever dealt with has remained parallel to the axis of the axle with their radial travel limited by the outer bearing race. Even if it did get cocked, with a little time and level headed coaxing it should be possible to right it.
Reminds me of the V-Rod wheels I got on eBay. I got an EXCELLENT deal, but I was a little apprehentious shortly after I removed the front wheel from the packaging. I checked the bearings and they were fine. The rotors were barely, skip that, they were not even burnished in fully. These were obviously wheels that were removed after very few miles. So after everything else checks out I roll the wheel on the ground and I hear something that sounds like something with a little weight is inside the wheel and stays on the bottom of the inside of the casting as the wheel rotates. I think to myself it could be one of the balls from the wheel bearing, but I checked them and they were good. What in the world could it be? Slightly dejected I went to bed at would deal with it the next day. Well before I left for work the next morning I thought "let's take a closer look at it". The V-Rod wheels have 15 nice black plastic caps (5 on each side of the the front, and 5 on the rear) that are somewhat easily removable. I gently pry one out and shake the wheel and still hear the noise I look inside with a flashlight and I was able to stick a finger in and this is what I pulled out:
It is approx. 1&1/2" in diameter and about 1/4" thick at the thickest spot. It appears that when the wheel was machined, this piece of the casting was not eradicated as is normally expected. I can see why the owner of the V-Rod didn't want them on his bike, but it was such an easy fix it really netted me a SUPER deal on a spare set of wheels. I put the front on Saturday morning and (even though I prefer Metzeler's) the new front wheel has been working like a charm. Once cords start showing on the rear I will put the new rear on.
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