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Oddball
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/brawler-conc ept/

I like it
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Dragonwing
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, everybody! That guy designed a Buell! Wow. What talent!

DW
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

looks like a cross between an XB, a speed triple, and a VRod.

Sadly, that particular design, will have to choose between having a fuel tank or having an air box, as clearly it can't have both as currently pictured.
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Kc10_fe
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm look at those brakes.
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Phwx2
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since HD is incapable of building something that is light and quick this bike will be targeted to that market segment that wants to accessorize their never-been-to-the-track-race-leathers rather than the current HD market segment who want to accessorize their assless chaps. One way or another HD would turn this beautiful piece of artistry into a junk wagon used to sell "motor cloths" and self delusion.
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Eweaver
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks heavy.
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Artist concepts have as much to do with the creation of real motorcycles as Michaelangelo's Sistine Chapel ceiling paintings are to the creation of humankind.
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Clutchreaper
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like a ripoff of other...ACKHEM...peoples' ideas...
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Clutchreaper
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Inverted forks! Zero-torsion-load brakes! Whaddya knowwww!!!
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 06:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is as much liklihood of that making production as I have of winning the Miss World contest!

Ugly, overweight and unbuildable in that form at least.

When will somebody at H-D realise what BMW have recently found out....Sports bike buyers don't want 'different' they want something that they can relate to and that they know will work. BMW have been trying to sell their own 'distinctive' bikes for years with limited success, but as soon as they build a Kawahondozuki clone S1000RR it is the best selling bike in Europe and outsells every other sportsbike over 1000cc, period.

If you want to attract a younger demographic then build bikes similar to those that younger people are buying NOW. Trying to invent a new category just to attract younger buyers will not work now and never has before.
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No you have to be brain dead to work at hardley ableson. Here is a little insight into their advertising department's way of thinking:

People don't want "sportbikes" or anything sporty for that matter. They want the same thing we made last year and the year before that. That's what the people really want. They don't want a V-Rod, that goes WAY too fast. You see, people want what we tell them to want. So when we come out with a machine that under performs we don't have any unsatisfied customers. They want a 800 lb machine with 65 horsepower with a springer front end. Yeah, that's what we tell everyone that they want. That's what you want, isn't it?

(Message edited by mcballpeen on August 10, 2010)
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have friends and people I respect who still work for H-D. I don't respect the HDI BOD or the CEO. They are short-sighted and wildly out of touch, and he is a liar.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think you have to be brain dead to work at Harley, though these days I suspect it would help.

I suspect there are a lot of talented and hard working people there, and they deserve better leadership.
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Charlies_s1
Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well said, Come on guy's lets not bash the brand or the hard working guys and gals on the line. It's the guys at the top that make it all look bad, They will be gone soon enough or it's the dumb investors to blame next.
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Los5445
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My son loves riding on the back of my Uly, he was 7 at the time we bought the bike, so since he was too young to own his own bike we bought him H-D stock.
When H-D closed up Buell, my son was quite upset. He looked at the all the H-D products in the annual reports he gets and said, "You know Dad, I wouldn't own one of those motorcycles, those are for old fat guys."
While the opinions of an 8 year old are somewhat unpolished, there is some truth there, who does H-D think there target audience will be in the coming years?
As the boy said, there is nothing in their lineup that would replace my Uly, my wife's SS or anything my 15 year old daughter likes or the aforementioned boy (now9).
In fact my daughter wants a Uly or F650GS of her own.
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