| Author | Message | ||
     Crazy_z |
I hear that if you put an exhaust, K & N, and a race Ecm on, it will void the warranty. Is this true? What would you guys do, wait or go for it? Thanks | ||
| Coturi |
It depends on the servicing dealer, mine said that it would be fine, but definitely worth asking yours. | ||
| Ethanr |
There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding aftermarket filters (K&N in particular) and warranties. From K&N's web site Vehicle Warranty Contrary to what you may have heard or read, in the USA, a K&N Filtercharger will not void your vehicle warranty. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, passed in 1975, prohibits a manufacturer from conditioning its warranty of a consumer product upon the consumer using any article or service (other than one provided without charge under the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name, unless expressly authorized by the Federal Trade Commission. If the manufacturer does not provide air filters free of charge, they cannot void the vehicle's warranty simply because you have installed an aftermarket air filter. See also Warranty Letter | ||
| Crazy_z |
I suppose the K & N might not do it, but I am sure that the race ECM and the slip-on might? | ||
| Lovematt |
It really does depend upon the dealer and the sensibility of what has been done on the bike. I have ridden around California and dropped in on several dealers to see how they have their stores set up and ask what will invalidate a warranty. My dealer says bolt on stuff without opening up the motor (heads/cam/cylinder) should not void their warranty. I have heard other dealers say that if the work was not done by them, in which they considered the total effects of the work being done, then the warranty might be voided. Their reasoning is that if one kept the stock ECM but totally opened up the air box, put in a K&N, and totally opened up the exhaust...a lean condition could cause problems when simply putting in a recommended ECM or PCIII/TFI type device would remove this problem...at least to the point where damage to the bike is no longer an issue. Personally I feel some sensibility in the mods made should be considered. I have the 12 airbox, a K&N, and a Drummer installed...I am a little worried about a lean condition but the weather is much cooler and the bike does not seem to be running any hotter than normal. However I plan to to swap out the chip so that I have done something to ensure a lean condition does not occur. | ||
| Ted |
Lovematt, do you mean you're going to install the Race ecm..? I plan on the same setup as you currently have but havent decided wether the race ecm or TFI is the route to go. | ||
| Bake |
I just had this chat with my dealer 5 minutes ago, he said they will honor the warranty, but if I break down elsewhere the other dealerships may turn me down! | ||
| Thansesxb9rs |
Just keep your stock stuff until the warranty runs out. If something happens to your bike put the stock stuff back on, don't worry about the TPS reset as that is something that will be under warranty when they fix the bike and they can reset it. Then after it is fixed put everything back on and go to a different dealer and have them reset your TPS. | ||
| Buells Rule! (Dyna in disguise) |
1 problem there Tim, HD/Buells warranty dept can look & see which dealerships have worked on your bike & even what parts you have bought from which dealership. 1 way around it is to purchase parts online from ebay & other non-mothership stores. Try pulling what you describe & they will find out pretty easily. | ||
| Johnny7051 |
I just bought my xb12r a few weeks and asked the dealer about all this and they told me if I have a warranty issue throw the stock stuff back on. | ||
| Duff24 |
If you have the dealer install everything, it will be covered. | ||
| Mikej |
Duff, Not so. A dealer will install "For Race Use Only" parts that will void a warranty. | ||
| Court |
>>>If you have the dealer install everything, it will be covered. That's hilarious. did you make that up or get it from someone? Please read the warranty in the front of your owners manual and share with us where you read the "exception". If'n I were you, I'd find the soul who told you that and give them a brisk slap.  Court | ||
| Thansesxb9rs |
Just ignore Duff he is an idiot (he is my roommate). Dyna, What if you knew an ex Buell dealer that still has the capabilities of reseting your TPS and will do it for free? I'm not worried about this since my warranty is long gone, but correct me if I am wrong, Buell hasn't taken the old dealers ability to reset the TPS away and since they no longer have warranty capabilities for checking or do the warranty work then couldn't they reset it without the current dealers knowing? | ||
| Court |
>>>Just ignore Duff he is an idiot (he is my roommate). JCCC I hope. Please tell me you are not at KU! By the way, having an "ex-Buell" dealer do a gray reset is a great way to learn how they got to acheived "ex" status. Think about it, you could write a term paper. Take it to Topeka, and tell Bruce I sent you. Court | ||
| Whistle |
Court, I just read through my warranty-the whole shebang-general M/C warranty, noise warranty and emission system warranty. In the M/C warranty they said (not an EXACT quote but very close) "Use or installation of off-road and or race parts may void part or all of your warranty. See your authorized Buell dealer for details." That's a total walkaround. Gives them the ability to say "okay yeah we sold you that race filter and it disintegrated and got sucked in and blew your engine even though it was used properly so we'll replace your engine." OR "Yeah well it was stupid of you to install just the race muffler and intake. Don't you know your bike was running lean? Plus you were running 87 octane? That's why you got a hole in your piston. So NO we aren't going to fix it for free cause it's YOUR faux-pas!" At least that is the way most normal dealers are about stuff. When I had my Wide Glide I did all the service on it. I didn't take it to them for the BS rip-off 1k service ($3XX to change the oil adjust the clutch and "look at everything"  -and your lucky if the guy doing your service actually does anything more than just change your oil then take the bike for a spin... ANYWAY, some 10k miles after I bought the bike I notice the spark plug wires were being rubbed through by the cylinder fins. So I take it over to the shop (Battley cycles/Rockville HD/Buell for those of you who know them) they see "Yeahp the spark plug wire is rubbed through, that's bad. We'll give you new wires." OK cool...off I go on my merry way. I think people get too caught up in all the fricken worrying. Crazy_Z-Go buy your race kit, install it properly (if you have the ability), maintain your bike properly, and have a good time. IF anything goes awry and IF you have done everything right, you don't have anything to worry about. later, Nick | ||
| Crazy_z |
The dealership I bought my Lightning said that it would not void the warranty with them. All I have to now is save up the $750. I plan on going with the following mods: D & D slip-on K & N air filter Race ECM This is all I plan on doing to it. I am sure that it will be more than enough. |
