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Dalx19
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i installed my latus exhaust tonight and when i started it up the check engine light came on. Is this normal and how do I fix it?? I know i've seen this somewhere before an I'm looking for it still. Any help? -XB12R
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Firebolt020283


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what ecu are u using?
if i remeber correctly and i may be wrong but if u use a aftermarket pipe with the 12 the check engine light will come one. But if u use the race ecu it takes car of that prob. But some one eles may want to jump in here and correct me.
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BadS1


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

correct!!!!
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Dalx19
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what about if i plug the butterfly back in? Is it bad to drive for a bit with it on?
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Firebolt020283


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok well heres my question then how do u solve this problem if u use the techslotion unit instead?
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BadS1


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Alex you can run th stock ecm but you should put the Race ECM in and have the TPS reset.If your running the stock ECM plug your servo motor back in so it thinks its still running it just disconnect the cable from it.Your light will go out.With the stock ECM your bike will run a little lean.
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Dalx19
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok, plugged it back in for now. I'll get the race ECM soon I hope. OMG, I cannot believe how it sounds. I'm not sure if it's to loud or not, ear plugs will prolly be coming. but it sounds beautiful. I don't know how you could stand the D&D being any louder. Sounds great

(Message edited by dalx19 on February 10, 2005)
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BadS1


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get that ECM and tear it up Alex.
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Navygunner
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you want to utilize the factory ECM which Dobeck recommends, you can remove the servo but it requires a little rewiring. You can find wiring diagrams in the knowledge vault. Once the servo is removed it makes a nice place to store the control for the TFI were moisture can't get to it and it is accessible for adjustment.
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Shazam


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't think the D&D is louder
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BadS1


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Then the Latus??Oh yeah....Dave used to run one and it wasn't all that loud.The D&D is much louder.
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Hanses25


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Shazam, is your force louder?
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BadS1


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing Frigg'n louder the the Force pipe.
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Hanses25


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh I think Shazam's force pipe is louder than anyone elses!!!!!!!!! Or may its the engine!
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Dalx19
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do know it hurts my ears just riding around, and I'm wearing a full face helmet
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12bolt


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the LAtus pipe with race ECM and it runs great! I left the exhaust servo plugged in. Am I right to say you don't need to leave it plugged in with the race ecm to get rid of the engine light?
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M1combat


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run a Force pipe on a 12R...

If you want to ride for more than about 30 minutes around town... Wear ear plugs. It's that simple. I installed it on a Friday, rode it a total of four times on Saturday for about 30-45 minutes each time. I had a pretty good headache each time and my ears didn't stop ringing until late that night.

I'm completely surprised that I haven't been pulled over for it yet...
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Captainplanet


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ran the latus for a little while. I thought it sounded great until I got over about 3500rpm. Then it was just too loud for me. Sensitive ears I guess. The jardine is not nearly as loud as the latus.

I think from quiet to loud it goes like this.

1. stock
2. Buell Race
3. jardine
4. latus / drummer
5. d and d
6. force
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Hogs
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey M1combat ,

If ya know what a d&d sounds like on a 12 how wd. you compare the sound of your new Force side by side?? on a scale of 1 to 10 as far as LOudness goes and tone? Thanks Buddy
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Hogs
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh yeah also M1,

How does this new force compare to the old force, what are the main differences I heard they are going to be making one for the 9 and the 12 will be different is yours the new 12 one or the new one they put out but not the new design just for the 12?
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M1combat


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the old Force...

I would do it this way...

1 - Stock
3 - Race muffler
4 - Drummer
5 - D&D
9 - Force (Maybe eight on a nine)

The Force gives a FREAKING AWESOME gurgle, spit, growl, roar, pop, howl, rasp and volume.

Blipping the throttle for downshift (and just for fun : )) is great. Shifting up is awesome as you let out the clutch. Idle is sweet. The raspy gurgle you get from 4K down to 1500 coming to a street light is WAY TOO COOL! It sounds better than any Harley I've ever heard, and I grew up around some very nice ones.

My next choice for the sound alone would be a Drummer.
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M1combat


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One more thing...

I FULLY expect to get a noise pollution ticket fairly soon : ).
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Blublak


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stay out of Alexandria VA.. They ticket loud pipes.. And if they think they are not street legal, they will 'impound for inspection' which of course you have to pay for.. So.. For warned is for armed..

Later,
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Hogs
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmmm ,

I wd. have thought the d&d wd. be louder than the drummer I know it is louder on mine than the drummer, I wonder what the difference will be for the new force for the 12?
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12bolt


Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just noticed today that some of the paint on the back of my Latus can is peeling off between the outlets. No big deal but I only have about 4k on that can.
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Kowpow225
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got misatos force pipe clip saved on my computer and play it occasionally for a really invigorating rush. I love the sound of that thing.
gurgle, spit, growl, roar, pop, howl

That's EXACTLY the way I'd describe it too,
M1combat.
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Noface


Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hogs, the "new" Force will sound like the first one, in that the XB Force sounds just like the one's for tubers.

It's that open, reverse megaphone that get's the unique sound.

I've heard one on all models of Buells, as I'm sure also, have many others.
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Noface,

I guess I`m wondering that they are making the new force for the 9 and I heard they are also making one for the 12 two different pipes or just the headers orrrrrrrrrr Just a bunch of rumors etc. But I wd. think that the 9 and 12 should be different size headers Seems to me that it would make a difference for two different displacements but then again maybe too much money to make two different systems.??? Anyone know anything about this ,Sorry maybe this is the wrong thread to be asking this as well..!
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Noface


Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you'd like to hear the Force pipe on a 9R, here's a link to a clip I made this am.

Keep in mind it's a cold engine, and it's cold outside, and I didn't rap on it too much.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ACgOQuYyESoTgtDcRDCLyfw90qQHDZc5r_HhK3BUZbagTHHZktl l034jmE1vTUf8DvdZesrjzmyjvaLFsZnA/XB9R%20wForce.MPG
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Noface


Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Force might be making two different headers on the second generation headers, and I could see how that might make a difference, but I don't know if they are or not.
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M1combat


Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I've got misatos force pipe clip saved on my computer and play it occasionally for a really invigorating rush. I love the sound of that thing.
gurgle, spit, growl, roar, pop, howl
That's EXACTLY the way I'd describe it too, M1combat."

: ). You should here it from the saddle under load and when you blip the throttle for downshifts : ).
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Lpd22
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kowpow- I have that same sound clip, and i listen to it frequently also. You got to love it.
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M1combat


Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Misato actually made two... One is the green bike and the other when it was black and mostly not polished. He's got a couple of dyno runs as well.
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Hogs
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1combat,

Hey pal would you have a sound clip of that pipe on your 12 , would like to hear what it sounds like also Do you know of any other new units like you got off ebay for that kind of money? Thanks
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