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Cyko_bob


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey guys...

I just got my insurance renewal for the next year, and my insurance (full coverage) just jumped from $364 per year to $1430. Here is what my agent said:

"The rates on all Buells went up to everyone else. They had been 90% lower than the other companies. These bikes got wrecked at an incredible rate last year. I would try to pay it off and carry liability only."

Is everyone else experiencing the same thing - higher premiums? It looks like insurance is going up on our beloved rides!

Wow! Cyko Bob
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Rubberdown


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, Age 43 male with clean record, motorcycle endorsement since they started the requirement, no accidents, multiple vehicles. Over a grand a year in NC. DOH!
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P0p0k0pf
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It seems to be the same story year after year from agents... I bet it isn't Buells either...

Was this past year your first year insuring the bike? Bait and switch with premiums is a well-used tactic by insurance companies. You get a good premium when you shop around, then your rates triple (or more) at the next renewal...
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Yeags30
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep my 03 xb costs more to insure then my brand new dodge with full coverage
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M1combat


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm w/ Dairy land. My premiums have gone down about $40 every six months. I'm just over $650-700/Yr right now.
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Cyko_bob


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

POpOKOpf (what a web name!)

Regarding other bikes, I have three other bikes on the same policy (including a Kawa ZRX1200), and all of them went down a few dollars...pay less than $400 for full coverage on all of them. So, it appears just the Buell for me.

Just for stats, I am 59...no tickets, no claims. I get the "Classic" insurance, ha ha...same as "old fart" insurance. If they only knew...

Cyko Bob
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We've been around on this. You need to "go shopping".

Country Companies has been fairly priced and very good to me with regard to my Firebolt.
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Wyckedflesh


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It became my understanding that many of the Insurance companies were totalling bikes out that had frame damage rather then simply replacing the frame. The ease of changing the frame on an XB is very different then the hassles of other brands, so many of the insurance companies followed the norm and totalled the bikes. Now the insurance companies are finding out its about $1750 total to REPLACE the frame and that includes the labor. So now they have to catch back up and recoup the losses from their lack of research.

It also depends on where you live, were there more totaled XB's in your area then say mine? Those are all factors that influence the insurance rates. I will say as I did in the past, when Progressive attempted to raise my rate on my XB to higher then my ZX6RR I called the rep and we went through the cost of repair for a few accident scenarios. When he realised that it was going to cost alot less then the ZX he was amazed having made the assumption that "Its a HDI company so it has HDI prices for parts". When it was shown to him that wasn't the case, my rate went back to the original quote and this year it went down.
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Bonesbuell


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine went from $300 in 04 to over $700 in 05.
Maryland / DC area
This is disturbing as most/large percentage of XB riders seem to be professionals (in the business world) in the 30-50 age range. We're not a bunch of hot-rodding kids.
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nope, we're not a bunch of kids ; )
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$1200 a year. 22 yr old rider. That's my full coverage. Lowest I could find and it just so happened to be with Allstate who I've been with for some time now.
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Kowpow225
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

24 with a clean driving record and my Acura on a different policy-$1000 a year full coverage. That's ridiculous, but the least expensive so far. For those of you who think you're paying too much, try this website. Takes 5 minutes.
http://www.motorcycleservices.com/home.asp
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Got1nut


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"This is disturbing as most/large percentage of XB riders seem to be professionals (in the business world) in the 30-50 age range. We're not a bunch of hot-rodding kids."

Well according to the hurt report motorcycle riders between the ages of 30 and 50 are significantly underrepresented in motorcycle crashes.
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Spatten1


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some of the insurance companies, like Progressive look at the actuarial results for each model and price accordingly. Back in the day my YSR50 cost more than my KZ1000 to insure. There may a lot of truth to what the agent said about the rate increase.

Other companies charge by engine displacement, regardless of accident statistics.
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Xring
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys are scarin' me. I just checked Geico online, it gave me $270/year on an '04 XB9S for me (40 y/o in WV).

Last time I checked with State Farm they were about $300/years.

Bill
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Spatten1


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

West Virginia is a fine place to buy insurance. You'll find much higher rates in other parts of the country.
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Planning to move to SoCal... What are rates like down there? What can I expect?
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Hulley
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just paid $573 per year on my 05' CityX and I have 3 tickets! full coverage, 1 year premium and I'm 32yr old man, single, no kids. AMEN BROTHER!
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Spatten1


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SoCal might not be worse than Chicago, call a local agent.

Whatever it costs, the riding will be worth it. Email OrgegaKid (Derek). Man, SoCal has some serious motorcycle culture and awesome riding. You are one lucky SOB.
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Robxb


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I pay 1,700.00 for 3 bike per year
03 flhri Road King
04 xb12r Firebolt
05 P3 Blast (for the wife)
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Jlnance


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just called USAA to see what buying an M2 would do to my insurance. It would go up $110 per sixth month period. Thats better than I was expecting. Thats liability only.
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Xring
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did anybody catch the article in Cycle World or Motorcyclist a couple of months ago about insurance? They ran different scenarios; the worst was something like a 20 y/o with a lot of tickets/accidents riding a 'Busa. It was about $12000/year.

Bill
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Deuceman


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I paid just under $500 dollars a year for my '03 Firebolt, '98 Ducati Monster, and '69 Norton Mercury (no full coverage on the Norton-don't really know what the value is). I hope my rates don't go up when I renew. If so, I will just shop around again. This is in Austin, and I don't know about the totalled XBs in my area. There don't seem to be many Buells around. I don't see them if they are.
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Corrupter
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Using the website suggested by kowpow i put my info in and it came up with this: must be the area i live in or something. I dont know how you guys get such low rates.

Birth Date: 1980
Recent Insurance (past 6 months): No
Years of motorcycle riding experience: 11
Married: No
Ever taken a defensive driver course?: Yes
Do you belong to a motorcycle organization/association?: No
Number of AT FAULT accidents (past 3 years): 0
Number of MINOR MOVING violation convictions (past 3 years): 0
Motorcycle Year/Make/Model 1: 2003/BUELL/LIGHTNIN
Zip code where motorcycle is garaged: 33429
Motorcycle garaged in a locked structure: Yes
Coverage Options for 2003 LIGHTNIN
Accessory Coverage ($1000 included) $0 additional
Liability 50,000/100,000/25,000
UMUIM 10,000/20,000
MedicalPayment No Coverage
Other than collision $250 deductible
Collision $250 deductible

NOTE:
In the state of Florida, Liability coverage includes Guestpassenger.
Totals for Annual Coverage
Cost of Insurance: $3,087.00

Policy Fee: $25.00
Total Cost for year: $3,112.00
You could start YOUR INSURANCE TODAY with your first payment of $1,259.80
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Brad_buell


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Using the website suggested by kowpow, I was just quoted $564 for the year in Michigan with my XB9S. That's almost exactly what I pay with State Farm now. I feel very fortunate at the moment.
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Briz31


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

in heck... u guys are paying heaps..

In Australia were paying about $700 AUD($540 USD) for full cover on a 03 XB9s.
This was my last premium, paid it in December.

They arranged the insurance through the place where I purchased the bike, as they have preferred insurers and offer great rates.

You know HD should offer there own insurance to HD/Buell owners, it's just a little bit extra service that they could offer the loyal customers.

What are your thoughts guys..
Should the manufacturer also offer Insurance...
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Jasonxb12s


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah dude...1500/year in NC. Thanks for reminding me...
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Briz31


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pays to shop around I guess...
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Thansesxb9rs


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Harley Davidson does offer insurance but it is high from what I have heard.

I have State Farm and I pay $206 per year for full coverage. I am 24, and I have no tickets and I haven't been in any accidents.

I have heard that State Farm is a little higher on car insurance but they more then make up for it with the bike insurance. My 04 Dodge is around $700 a year. I also have home owners insurance through them.

The more polices the better the discount.
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Clydeglide


Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pays to shop around I guess...

Last year at Bike Week we came across the AIG display. My wife always asks for better rates on the Busa's as they can be a little pricey. They cut our current rate a bunch. Full coverage on both Busa's is ~$700/year........that's $350 EACH!

Needless to say we are very happy.

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