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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2022 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you know if there is a reverse gear mod for Buell XB, maybe similar to what they do on Harley Davidson motorcycles? I have to operate my Buell on sloped tight gravel paved spot in order to park it in the the spot and can can not do it without reverse gear. Even worst, I can be trapped in that spot without reverse gear if I do a little mistake attempting to operate it there.

Maybe there are attachable external electric units to roll the motorcycle in reverse?



(Message edited by TPEHAK on July 25, 2022)
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Nillaice
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

been watching romaniacs ... pivot turns seem to work for the hard enduro guys lol

can you ride the bike up hill/back the bike down the hill so its facing the right way for exit?
is there enough space to spin the bike around on the side stand?
any ratchet strap/winch points up hill?

i dont think your need the entire range of a gear in reverse. electric reverse on a goldwing seems bout the right speed. as far as frequency of use, sounds like youd use it every day but there's not much un-engineered space left open on these bikes for an aftermarket reverse gear drive.
i guess you could take a chunk of an old broken belt and wrap it around a spindle to make a gear, run it thru a hole in the belt guard off of a windsheild wiper motor or probably just a cordless drill for ease of control idk
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Tpehak
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2022 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking about replacing the front sprocket cover by a gearbox with brushless motor. When you need to move your motorcycle you set the motorcycle in neutral gear, engage the gearbox with the front sprocket and operate it using a switch on the handlebar. The power can be sourced from the starter wire.

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Nillaice
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2022 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that'd be trick

seems like a perfect place to mount it into a custom front sprocket cover.
it'll benefit from the allready existing final drive reduction

makes sense to just use the bike's battery. what if the control circuit could be tagged in thru the neutral switch/clutch switch and then use the high beam flash switch to momentarily actuate it?

if its electronically locked out by a logic gate, then i guess it'd be safe to leave it mechanically engaged but probaly not a good for longevity, especially at highway speeds.
... what about a cog small enough to fit between behind the drive sprocket (more reduction) with a (skateboard ?) hub motor that is retained disengages/engages with a clevis pin?

i keep thinking of a windsheild wiper motor for higher torque but those a pretty bulky

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Nillaice
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2022 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

are you running a belt or chain final drive?
only asking cuz the idler pictured is a sprocket ...
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34nineteen
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2022 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not just figure out a way to run the starter motor backwards?

Or quit skipping leg day. Just sayin.
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2022 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run chain with sprockets.

Using starter is not easy mod because of it needs changing polarity to rotate it opposite way, the starter sprocket has chamfers do not allow to rotate the clutch basket sprocket opposite way and the clutch basket is engaged with the engine crank so the starter will not turn it smooth and easy.

My legs are strong enough, the problem is the gravel pavement is loose enough not to hold the grip with my legs.

(Message edited by TPEHAK on August 01, 2022)
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34nineteen
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2022 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seems a lot easier to redesign the starter than it is to adapt the motor to accept a reversing motor.

Goldwings and other bikes use the starter as part of the "reverse gear".

Well, regardless of what you choose to do, you seem to have the know how and ability to figure it out.

I get it about your legs being strong enough. I'm pretty ripped myself, the rest of the world just needs to HTFU.
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2022 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

engineering a reverse function is a fun exercise but, in practical application: wouldn't the back wheel just burn out on your gravel pavement if the bike is pointed down hill and all the weight is on the front wheel?
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