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Trenchtractor
| | Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 06:17 am: | 
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Stoich is the ratio at which all the air and all the fuel will be burnt off (simply put). Doesn't always equal best performance.
That dyno run is a 12, with induction mod, K&N, and like I said, a straight through prototype muffler that has since been thrown in the trash, it actually cost me power. I had to use the induction mod to make up what I'd lost. What it did gain, though was a bunch better throttle response and smoother delivery.
I learnt a lot from this run and the others we did the same day, point is, it's very dificult to do better than the stock muffler on a 12.
If you bolted pretty much any muffler in isolation onto a 12, you are going to go backwards. That stock muffler is tuned so well to the ECM, induction, heads... It's almost imposible to beat. It's not until you add other mods like the pro series ecm, K&N, mod the induction that you start to see the benifit of the aftermarket mufflers. And they all loose something to gain something else.
But then sometimes people don't like to hear the bad news. I certainly didn't. I've been trying to come up with a muffler that sounds great and can at least be as good as the stock unit everywhere, and better than it somewhere... It certainly isn't easy. The math will do your head in, then you learn that no matter how much you run the numbers, it's still down to trial and error. |
Oconnor
| | Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 02:04 pm: |
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Just got a response from dobsck performance about using the TFi on a race ecu:
no worries
you should be alright with the race
ECU. We develop our products with stock ECU configurations and we have no
idea what has been done with the stock mapping, so it leaves the possibility
for troublesome tuning. we will be glad to assist in tuning, when you're
ready.
have a great ride
George Levings
Tech / Sales Support
Dobeck Performance
2595 Simmental Way
Bozeman, MT 59718
877-764-3337
www.dobeckperformance.com
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Jerseyguy
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 12:02 pm: |
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Cool.... |
Jerseyguy
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 12:04 pm: |
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Dave - How about an update.... any news on the ETA of the new units? |
Daves
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 01:33 pm: |
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I'll check again today or tomorrow.
Dave |
Srlorg
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 05:28 pm: |
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Just for the record, Im using a techlusion box on my 03 xb9r w race ecm, tiforce, stack, drilled airbox, and it works flawlessly. I did turn # 1 pot to 2.5 from recommended 3 but I ended up setting the others as recommended in the install sheet after messing around. I highly recommend the box as is. No dyno, but It really ads to the responsiveness of the motor. I did get a guarantee I could return it for free to get an updated rom when they are ready. |
Ingemar
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 05:39 pm: |
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Thanks Mark. That's really what we all want to hear.
Did you come from a race ecm to the tfi? |
Tatsu
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 05:44 pm: |
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How is the installation of this unit? Do you have to cut and splice wires?
Thanks |
Buell_boy_beau
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 07:33 pm: |
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Tatsu,just plugs into exsisting harness.easy as.all the tools u need r in buell toolpack.fits under pillion seat for easy access.got mine a month ago delivered to australia.
everyone should have one |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 08:25 pm: |
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MIL light comes on? |
Tatsu
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 12:40 am: |
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Cool... sounds like another toy to play with. |
Tatsu
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 12:56 am: |
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Okay so has anyone installed to on a 12r with a Drummer Pipe, air box holed,snorkle removed and a race ecm. If so, any improvements? |
2k4xb12
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 01:41 am: |
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fullpower -- he has a 9. Is there an MIL issue with the 9's or just the 12's? I thought it had to do with the exhaust valve... |
Tatsu
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 01:44 pm: |
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Anyone with this on a 12R with a aftermarket pipe? Go or No Go? |
Odie
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 02:09 pm: |
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Tatsu, I will have one on my 12S with aftermarket pipe but not until after the holidays...Odie |
Tatsu
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 03:23 pm: |
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Okay let me know how that goes. Is that with or with a Race ECM and Race Filter? |
Odie
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 03:25 pm: |
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That will be with a K&N, snorkle removed, cut-away airbox, Pro-Series plugs, (hopefully some better wires too), under airbox heat barrier, and my Special O.P.S. pipe.......Later, Odie |
Odie
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 03:26 pm: |
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Sorry, that is a stock ECM too....odie |
Odie
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 03:31 am: |
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Tatsu...by the way, on my Special O.P.S. pipe mod I leave the valve operational. Dyno time fell thru on saturday but should be doing it this week sometime if they can squeeze me in......Odie |
Tatsu
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 09:43 pm: |
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Sounds good. Keep me posted. |
Odie
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 11:16 pm: |
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Will do......... |
Xbolt12
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 11:35 pm: |
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Tatsu,
Do a search on Techlusion in the archives and you will find my many posts on the TFI. I now have a Jardine and it runs great with the TFI. It seems to be rid of the occasional hiccup when taking off from a stop as well.
xbolt12
BTW: Ti Jardine, stock ECM, motor in-place w/o cable (for now), Race Filter, snorkle cut down, heat reflective material on the bottom of the airbox and seat. |
Tatsu
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 04:57 pm: |
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Thanks! Will do the search. |
Daves
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 06:04 pm: |
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I have 5 coming in next week.
2 are sold, 3 for sale!
Dave |
2k4xb12
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 08:29 pm: |
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Dave, I was on the original want list from when you first announced the sale. Am I one of the two sold ones? |
Glitch
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 09:34 pm: |
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Dave, sorry if you've said already, what's the BadWeB price? |
Dj_rider
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 09:38 pm: |
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im runnin a holey airbox, race ecm, drummer exhaust and ceramic in and out header pipe, and i have had no problems except for it stalling a few times on cold starts...although my BRAN NEW triple tree is cracked, so i cant ride my bike:@@@@@@@@@@@...but i rode it anyways to make sure everything else worked, and hot damn the thing is just one word...siCK!!!!!!! |
Rr_eater
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 10:38 pm: |
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Dave, messaged ya
LMK
Bruce |
Daves
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 10:46 pm: |
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They are only sending me 3 this week with more to follow.
SteveO I've got one for you.
I'll have everyone else's soon! |
Jerseyguy
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:48 pm: |
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Dave, I'd like you to ship me one ASAP also. What's your ETA? |
Daves
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 01:40 pm: |
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I just ordered some more. |
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