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Rigga
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

been offered a usa spec xb9s over here in the uk for a reasonable ammount of money,only 500 miles on the clock 2003 spec bike,does anyone know what if any changes there are in specification between the usa version and the euro version normaly found in the uk? the speedo is obviously in mph so no problem there,just anything else i need to be aware of? emmission restrictions etc

thanks
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Forcebuell
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Rigga,
Main difference should be gearing(more grunt less top end) and headlamps must be e-marked,otherwise buy it mate ,you wont be sorry!
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Rigga
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

right ive been in touch with the seller and the bike was originally a nevada registerd bike.....now can any of you guys from that area tell me if your bikes have emmission cannisters fitted?...also it has the orange wheel bearings fitted,so those are the latter spec ones i believe?

thanks

martin
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Martin,
California is the main cannister state here, but Nevada is right next to it and there are more bargaining bike dealers in California than in Nevada. So it is possible that the bike is a California cannister equipped bike, but not necessarily. Check the bike over for decals to see if any of them state something like "meets California emissions standards".
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Rigga
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

would a carbon cannister equiped bike be severly strangled in the power it produces?......or is it not that noticable?...plus as the uk bikes do not come with it fitted,is it a simple job to remove....or is it all tied in with the ecm and im stuck with it?

thanks

martin
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shouldn't be noticible unless you overfill the gas tank.

On the tube frame Buells it was just a nip and snip removal with I think a hose re-route. Not sure about the XB's.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the Vin# will have 57 for the 6th and 7th digit on a california model and its a very easy removal of the Canister. Hose rerouting is all. The ECM is also different between the USspec and the Eurospec machines to meet some standard over there but the Euro posters on the board can cover that one better.
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Rigga
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so it wont be a problem just to remove it all if i wanted to.......might be changing the ecm for a race item,so if the us and uk ecm's are different im assuming the race item is the same for everyone.......looking good so far then....gonna have to travel a few hours tomorrow to go see the bike......cant wait
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Stealthxb
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I recall reading somewhere that the Euro models have an extra wire on the ECM that restricts mid range power output.
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Rigga
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yea ive been asking about that...its a white wire from the ecm,its to do with emission and noise testing dips the power in the midrange exactly where the testing is carried out so that it can pass....leaves a bit of a flat spot when riding though,so cutting the white wire eliminates the problem......as you say only on europe spec bikes though not fitted to the usa spec

martin
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guess here in the US we're just loud any way so the bikes being loud isn't a big deal.
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Unibear12r
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you want to remove the canister itself its in the tail section on the Rs and you have to pull all the plastic apart to get to it. Thats if you even have it. I have not felt it's worth the trouble to remove.
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Rigga
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well guys thanks to those that replied to my post......as it turns out i didnt get as far as the place with the american spec buell,the first one i saw i purchased,very nice black 03 xbs,with full race kit fitted,very low miles...so now im finally a buell owner travelled over 260 miles today and totally knackered now (hope that translates ok)but very much worth it

martin
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Stonecoldbuellin
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

welcome to the SICKNESS
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Rigga
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep i can feel my wallet twitching as i sit looking at all the goodies on offer for these bikes.

martin
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Stonecoldbuellin
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


less than 40$ usd
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Rigga
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the crash bobbins??? yea had those on my drz supermoto.....threaded bar and skateboard wheels are a common use..thats what i used,though was concerned as to whether the wheels should rotate on bearings in order to be fully practicle in the event of a spill......had many comments that the solid mounted wheels would just dig into the tarmac and flip the bike over,causing more damage than if they wernt fitted in the first place.....glad to say i never got to finding that out
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Stonecoldbuellin
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine will spin before the days over i need to go buy a nylon or aluminium spacer,the wheels already have the bearings in them.
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Rigga
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

best if they do i think.........not really something you can test tho first..it either works ok if you unfortunatly dump your bike.......or it starts flipping over as the wheels dig in and causes more damage......i know the supermoto boys make sure the wheels spin,and they started all this off
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